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A win is NOT worth 2 ranks. I have no idea where this came from, but that is just not how it works. In general, they take your wins minus your losses and sort everyone up or down from there. Then because they will have a lot of people landing on the same spot, they sort things out in committee. What each committee feels is the best way to do this changes all the time. 2 ranks might be a rule of thumb that works many times, but it is far from a hard and fast rule. Back in the day when all we had was BBS's and usenet groups to talk about sumo shit like this would come up. Where people would come up with a rule and declare it to be true. But as the decades have proven over and over, there are no hard and fast rules. Not even KK must go up and MK must go down.
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No, they are a kind of pants that evolved from the old-time robes into something you could ride horses with. Then when the Bushi class took power, they became more formal as the rich and powerful wore them as their class dress vs the robes the former people in power in the Emperors Court still wore. Compared to what the Gyogi wear, which is closer to what the aristocratic court member would wear, but with less stupid hats and redundant layers. The modern versions are very simplified from the stupidly complex stuff high ranking members of society used to have to wear. When I was in Japan a couple of years ago, part of the tour we took of a palace in the Kyoto area that had been converted into a museum had a whole section of clothing and how it evolved over time. I wish I could remember the name of it right now, but it escapes me.
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Short of a Yusho or a high scoring playoff loss, I think it will really depend on how the Ozeki and Yokozuna situation looks. If Takakeisho gets a losing record and Kirishima does not get his ten wins, and Terunofuji is still out, they may promote him just to shore up the top ranks and hopefully get another Yokozuna sooner rather than later. However, if they are looking strong, then they will probably wait and see how things turn out in September.
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The big question for me is will they count last times result for Onosato as part of an Ozeki run or not. Although he was M5 he did face all the named ranks who available and got a Jun-Yusho out of it. If Kirishima is healthy and gets his ten, we could see five Ozeki with hopefully at least one on a strong Yokozuna run in September. That would be interesting. Especially if Wakatakakage is tearing it up making it back to the top.
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One would think with the recent precedent of someone going 5-10 from much lower (J10 & J11) than J8 yet staying, that a 4-11 at j8 would be safe. But they sure do love to play favorites and run backroom deals.
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Short of some kind of scandal, if he wins in November he will get promoted. They know they need someone to replace Terunofuji soon. Any Ozeki winning 2 in a row will do.
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Adopted and raised by a wolf, born Trojan princes. Also, descendants of the Gods, and lots of other typical stuff. Pretty standard fare for Mediterranean civilizations.
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I want to thank @Kintamayama for his videos. I always look forward to watching them during (and after) the Basho. This time I especially enjoyed his Juryo highlight matches with Ochiai & Enho as well as other interesting bouts in the 2nd division.
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The only Sumo I watched was Kintamayama's stuff because it felt the most like news reporting with highlights, was short and to the point, and keep a lot of unneeded drama out of things. So, I have next to no experience with other channels. Kintamayama's videos would have been covered under fair use here in the US, as they were short exerts of the larger whole (short highlights of the important parts of the match), added new information/were transformative (with his stats and other added info), covered topics of public concern (sporting results), and do not impact the commercial value of the original. Sadly, Youtube has their own policy that is far stricter than the law requires. Some of the other channels that posted the whole top division matches with a little voice over to rant about whatever they feel like are on far shakier grounds. If I was practicing law in the IP realm (I do not, and none of this is legal advice), I'd think it would be very hard for them to win against someone posting a ~15 min highlight reel with some added reporting than someone posting all 3+ hours of the top division. Anyway, back to work studying for by Bar Exam.
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If the strikes are just against your translations of interviews, then you should file a counter-notice. Because your translations are transformative (i.e. changing the language), about something that is in the public interest (i.e. newsworthy), and non-commercial (you are not monetized I think), you have an argument for fair use.
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Sumo Do Sumo Don't - TV Series Remake!
Morningstar replied to Tiger Tanaka's topic in Ozumo Discussions
Watched the first three episodes and have a pretty good impression. Very formulistic and follows the basic tropes closely. No surprises so far. I'm looking forward to the next episode. -
Dude's bio reads like one of the Edgelord dipshits on the talking about Sumo site. The piece is just silly and full of logic holes.
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Yusho, Marriage, and Ozeki promotion all in short order. I hope he is recovered enough by March from all the celebration. I also wish him a happy married life and great sucess.
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Hidenoumi and Shiden under suspicion of illegal gambling
Morningstar replied to Seiyashi's topic in Ozumo Discussions
I would like to think that the punishment will be proportionate with the kind of gambling they did. I'm not aware of any details having leaked out, but there is a huge difference in my mind between Pachinko and Mahjong Vs betting on Sports or worse yet Sumo. If they bet on Sumo, then expulsion is the likely outcome, just small amounts on games then maybe a fine and short suspension, on Sports or large amounts then everything is on the table. Last time I was in Japan Pachinko and Mahjong parlors were everywhere. I learned to play Mahjong and Shogi in a back ally parlor in a part of Yokohama I was technically not allowed to be in. Frankly if this is what they got in trouble for, the NSK should have just laughed it off and told them to be more discrete. -
Previously infected and/or vaccinated persons can still catch and transmit the virus. It is also transmittable by asymptomatic persons. Infact according the the World Health Organization two days before symptoms show is when it is most transmittable. So the ban on participation is totally reasonable if not disappointing for those of us wanting to see win number 46 for Hakuho and Hokuseiho first Juyro tournament. But, we will just have to look forward to their dominance in November.
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The perfect 15 and 0 performance? It seems like he sure is struggling against the super duper talented new guy's /s Hakuho is well knows for being super competitive and driven to win. I very much doubt that he wants to miss any Basho. And coming off a perfect tournament he looked to be in a favorable position to win this one. It is sad that he will not get to try, and that no one will get the opportunity to test themselves against the best of all time.
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Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Nagoya 2021
Morningstar replied to Asashosakari's topic in Honbasho Talk
I do not think Meisei did enough to force a 3rd Sekiwake slot. Had he managed to put dirt on any of the Ozeki he faced and maybe won a few more against the lower rankers he faced, then I could see it. But, a weak 8-7 just does little to justify opening a third slot for him. I'm 50/50 on a third Komusubi slot opening for Ichinojo, but leaning right now to no. While he did beat two Ozeki, one Sekiwake, and both Komusubi, his day 12 &13 losses to lower rankers really hurt him. If he had picked those up, I could see them doing it for sure. He looked good and dominate, even Ozeki like. But, his past meltdowns after being promoted to a high rank really hurt him here. If he has another great tournament in September, I can see them fast tracking him up to Ozeki if no one else is on a good promotion run, as I expect they are going to be needing some replacements soon. -
The difference between a sekitori and a non-sekitori
Morningstar replied to Kintamayama's topic in Ozumo Discussions
Shintoism's forced split from Buddhism is relatively recent. Prior to the late 1800's they were the same religion. And, both still retain numerous connections. So there is no reason that they can not be Buddhist origin taboos. -
Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Haru 2021
Morningstar replied to Asashosakari's topic in Honbasho Talk
Ms3's that go 4-3 are routinely also not promoted. With the latest being Kitaharima in November 2020 going 4-3 and only making it to Ms1e. In the last decade alone there have been over a dozen examples. A J14 having a losing record and staying in Juryo has less precedent, but is not unknown. Wakakosho did it two times in a row with 7-8 scores till he finally got a 6-9 on the third try and got demoted back in 2004. -
Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Haru 2021
Morningstar replied to Asashosakari's topic in Honbasho Talk
Not really. They did not have a lot of good demotion candidates, and no one forced the issue with a very strong performance. So one to replace Kakuryu due to his retirement, and the other to replace Yago for his 4-11 from J10. Bushozan loos to get a lucky break. Or it could be the other way around. -
The YDC was instituted to rubber stamp and give an air of extra legitimacy to decisions the NSK had already decided to make. This was done after a scandal in the 80's. They have held no real power and are should be put out to pasture.
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Two Rikishi from his Ichimon (Tatsunami). Usually Kaisei and someone else.
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He has 8. He needs one more to even break into the top 10. 17 to have the most.
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Here is a list from SumoDB sorted by Heya with Shusshin & University. Rank Rikishi Heya Shusshin University J3e Wakamotoharu Arashio Fukushima M8w Wakatakakage Arashio Fukushima Toyo University M1w Takanosho Chiganoura Chiba O1w Takakeisho Chiganoura Hyogo S1w Mitakeumi Dewanoumi Nagano Toyo University K1e Okinoumi Hakkaku Shimane M2e Hokutofuji Hakkaku Saitama Nippon Sport Science University J10w Midorifuji Isegahama Shizuoka Kinki University J13w Nishikifuji Isegahama Aomori Kinki University M1e Terunofuji Isegahama Mongolia M3w Terutsuyoshi Isegahama Hyogo M5w Takarafuji Isegahama Aomori Kinki University J1e Ikioi Isenoumi Osaka J1w Nishikigi Isenoumi Iwate M4w Tochinoshin Kasugano Georgia M7w Aoiyama Kasugano Bulgaria M2w Tamawashi Kataonami Mongolia J10e Akiseyama Kise Aichi Nihon University J12e Kizakiumi Kise Okinawa Nihon University J7e Churanoumi Kise Okinawa Nihon University J9e Hidenoumi Kise Tokyo Nihon University M15e Shimanoumi Kise Mie Kinki University M8e Tokushoryu Kise Nara Kinki University J11w Chiyonokuni Kokonoe Mie J3w Chiyomaru Kokonoe Kagoshima J4e Chiyoshoma Kokonoe Mongolia J6e Chiyonoo Kokonoe Kagoshima J9w Chiyootori Kokonoe Kagoshima M11e Chiyotairyu Kokonoe Tokyo Nippon Sport Science University M5e Kiribayama Michinoku Mongolia Y1w Kakuryu Michinoku Mongolia M17e Ichinojo Minato Mongolia M13w Ishiura Miyagino Tottori Nihon University M9e Enho Miyagino Ishikawa Kanazawa Gakuin University Y1e Hakuho Miyagino Mongolia J8e Mitoryu Nishikido Mongolia Nihon University M15w Shohozan Nishonoseki Fukuoka Komazawa University J12w Daishoho Oitekaze Mongolia J4w Daiamami Oitekaze Kagoshima Nihon University J5e Daishomaru Oitekaze Osaka Nihon University J8w Tsurugisho Oitekaze Tokyo Nihon University K1w Endo Oitekaze Ishikawa Nihon University M14e Tobizaru Oitekaze Tokyo Nihon University S2e Daieisho Oitekaze Saitama M9w Onosho Onomatsu Aomori J2e Kotoyuki Sadogatake Kagawa J2w Kotonowaka Sadogatake Chiba M10w Kotoeko Sadogatake Miyazaki M11w Kotoshogiku Sadogatake Fukuoka M12e Kotoshoho Sadogatake Chiba M10e Sadanoumi Sakaigawa Kumamoto M3e Myogiryu Sakaigawa Hyogo Nippon Sport Science University J13e Oki Shikoroyama Niigata M14w Abi Shikoroyama Saitama M6e Takayasu Tagonoura Ibaraki J11e Hakuyozan Takadagawa Yamagata M6w Kagayaki Takadagawa Ishikawa M7e Ryuden Takadagawa Yamanashi O1e Asanoyama Takasago Toyama Kinki University J14e Fujiazuma Tamanoi Tokyo J7w Azumaryu Tamanoi Mongolia Kyushu Institute of Information Sciences J6w Akua Tatsunami Ibaraki M13e Meisei Tatsunami Kagoshima M16w Hoshoryu Tatsunami Mongolia M4e Yutakayama Tokitsukaze Niigata Tokyo University of Agriculture S1e Shodai Tokitsukaze Kumamoto Tokyo University of Agriculture J5w Kyokushuho Tomozuna Mongolia M12w Kaisei Tomozuna Brazil M16e Kyokutaisei Tomozuna Hokkaido J14w Kitaharima Yamahibiki Hyogo
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Ishiura keiko violence - the next scandal
Morningstar replied to Otokonoyama's topic in Ozumo Discussions
I think a significant fine would be more appropriate. Along with some additional mandatory training and perhaps being made to clean the toilets in the RyĆgoku Kokugikan on the day after the Basho.