Profomisakari

Welcome to Game 21 for the Hatsu 2025 Basho. Game 21 is the game in which we predict who will win (A or B) or whether the fight will not take place (X) In the past, we shared the game management so that Yarimotsu chose the fights and I then did the daily evaluation. This time, I don't have time for the evaluation on all days of the Basho, so we swapped these tasks. Yarimotsu has always provided a link that took us to a multiple choice form that each player had to fill out and then sent back for checking. I will do it a little differently. I ask you to send me your tips by email to 0375529641@t-online.de. Please use as the subject "game 21" and your player's shikona. Please submit your tips as a table using the following template You can copy from here, but ther is a small danger: Not all mail managers allow the table to be imported cleanly into the mail text. Please copy the table into a DOC or Excel file and attach it to the mail! Thanks! Game 21 Hatsu 2025 ( your Shikona) No. Bout: A - B Vote 1 Terunofuji – Abi 2 Kotozakura - Hoshoryu 3 Takerufuji - Onosato 4 Wakamotoharu - Takayasu 5 Daieisho – Kirishima 6 Takanosho - Wakatakakage 7 Tobizaru - Oho 8 Atamifuji – Hiradoumi 9 Ichiyamamoto – Gonoyama 10 Shodai - Ura 11 Chiyoshoma – Churanoumi 12 Endo – Mitakeumi 13 Roga – Kinbozan 14 Takarafuji – Tamawashi 15 Oshoma – Shonannoumi 16 Meisei - Midorifuji 17 Nishikigi – Hokutofuji 18 Hakuoho – Onokatsu 19 Kagayaki – Kotoshoho 20 Kitanowaka – Nishikifuji 21 Tamashoho – Tokihayate I will answer this email with your votes, that you can see your given votes. To correct your vote you can mail me a new vote until the deadline. I will publish two tables: - one table with the tips of all players - and one table of all A, B and X for all 21 selected fights. This will be the time for Yarimotsu to begin with the determination and publication of the daily results. And this is how these results are created: • Each correct pick will earn you one point • If a Rikishi is listed in one of the potential bouts but never has a match scheduled in the Basho, the bout will not count for the allocation of points. This is especially interesting for Terunofuji. I don’t know if he will start. But if he isn’t listed the whole basho on any torikumi, the bout will not be counted If two or more entrants end up with the same number of correct picks, the two following tiebreaker rules will apply: • TB1: entrants will earn TB points for their ability to spot winning outsiders (i.e. the fewer players to correctly pick a winner, the more TB points you score) and the entrant with most TB points will win the tiebreaker. • TB2: if the first tiebreaker does not break the tie, the entrant with the earliest submission time will be declared the winner. Your submission time updates if you edit. Deadline will be Friday, January 10th at 11:00 JST. That is 2 AM (UTC) or 3:00 CET (CET). If the torikumi has already been published before this (what I don’t believe), he time of this publication time will apply. Then become all after this deadline given votes invalid. All is said. Do your picks! I wait for them Profomisakari

Hello @Fujisan! I promised you that I would let you start out of competition and tell you afterwards the result that your tip would have brought if you had been able to meet the deadline. You would have received for your tip: 6 points for 6 correct answers. and a tiebreaker value of 42 Profomisakari I hope next Basho you can hold the deadline!

Tameikis Ranking after Hatsu Basho 2025 Hello dear 21 gamers! I have once again added the results of Hatsu Basho 25 to the ranking according to Tameiki's method and subtracted those of Hatsu Basho 24. This is the result: Nr Name Points TB1 Score Average TB1 Av. 1 Hisui 60 913 6 10,00 152,17 2 Susanoo 60 870 6 10,00 145,00 3 Yarimotsu 56 895 6 9,33 149,17 4 Gusoyama 53 767 6 8,83 127,83 5 Fashiriteta 53 745 6 8,83 124,17 6 Rokudenashi 53 710 6 8,83 118,33 7 Papayasu 51 714 5 10,20 142,80 8 Flohru 50 739 5 10,00 147,80 9 Bunbukuchagama 50 660 6 8,33 110,00 10 Benihana 48 685 6 8,00 114,17 11 Athenayama 48 646 6 8,00 107,67 12 Wamahada 48 644 6 8,00 107,33 13 Karasukurai 48 637 6 8,00 106,17 14 Tochinofuji 48 612 6 8,00 102,00 15 Asapedroryu 47 667 5 9,40 133,40 16 WAKATAKE 47 641 5 9,40 128,20 17 Hakuryuho 45 558 6 7,50 93,00 18 Profomisakari 44 619 6 7,33 103,17 19 shimodahito 44 617 5 8,80 123,40 20 ChickyStarr 44 581 6 7,33 96,83 21 RaeucherLax 44 569 6 7,33 94,83 22 Fujisan 43 591 5 8,60 118,20 23 Hakuhonofan 41 646 5 8,20 129,20 24 chishafuwaku 41 597 5 8,20 119,40 25 Shatsume 39 487 5 7,80 97,40 26 Andreas21 36 485 4 9,00 121,25 27 Fia 32 401 5 6,40 80,20 28 Mizuma 31 424 5 6,20 84,80 29 Eatplaylovesumo 30 402 4 7,50 100,50 30 Asset 30 384 4 7,50 96,00 31 E9 22 316 2 11,00 158,00 32 Takanorappa 21 307 2 10,50 153,50 33 Hidenotora 21 269 3 7,00 89,67 34 Ippikiōkami 18 207 2 9,00 103,50 35 Kotowazasato 12 222 2 6,00 111,00 36 Jeauonosato 12 172 1 12,00 172,00 37 Suwihito 12 170 2 6,00 85,00 38 grocerybird 11 151 1 11,00 151,00 39 Furansumo 10 145 1 10,00 145,00 40 Hoshotakamoto 10 145 1 10,00 145,00 41 Jogn 10 133 2 5,00 66,50 42 Hohofuji 10 129 1 10,00 129,00 43 kujo 9 120 1 9,00 120,00 44 Polarkatsu 8 132 1 8,00 132,00 45 Jimizakura 7 111 1 7,00 111,00 We see: The Hatsu Winner Hisui has the KyuShu leader Susanoo reached and has the better Tiebraker sum.. Yarimotsu jumped to the third place Congratulations to all three! Profomisakari!

As you remember: After the Aki Basho Tameiki had started a new Ranking for our game. His Post was his last action for the game. Shatsume found out a small error and I had hoped, Tameiki will correct ist and for himself post the correction. But he didn't come back. I made the correction in November. Here I will open a new Thread with a copy of this my post from November and then I will let follow the new ranking after the KyuShu Basho: This ist Tameiki's ranking for 2022 (until Aki Basho), corrected by Profomisakari: Nr Name 2022 Points TB1 score 1 Flohru 59 742 5 2 Profomisakari 58 689 5 3 Hakuryuho 56 601 5 4 Chankomafuji 55 604 5 5 Oortael 54 592 5 6 Yarimotsu 52 599 5 7 Shatsume 52 579 5 8 ChickyStarr 51 537 5 9 Asojima 49 671 5 10 Susanoo 49 517 5 11 Tameiki 46 504 5 12 Athenayama 45 464 5 13 Asapedroryu 45 460 5 14 Fujisan 45 450 5 15 Wamahada 44 475 5 16 Benihana 44 453 5 17 Hakuhonofan 44 452 5 18 Kellyama 43 464 5 19 Tochinofuji 41 432 5 20 RaeucherLax 41 355 5 21 WAKATAKE 40 403 5 22 shimodahito 39 502 4 23 chishafuwaku 37 443 5 24 Achiyama 37 356 4 25 Karasukurai 36 382 4 26 Sumo Spiffy 34 450 3 27 Chartorenji 33 378 4 28 kujo 33 320 4 29 ScreechingOwl 33 290 4 30 Hoshotakamoto 31 404 3 31 Mmikasazuma 19 176 2 32 Peeter 18 190 2 33 Suwihito 17 224 2 34 Gansekiiwa 9 70 1 35 Takanorappa 6 90 1 Because Tameiki started his "eternal ranking" with the Hatsu Basho 22, we only need to divide Scorer and TB1 by the number of attendances and reorder. That makes: Nr Name Eternal ranking Points TB1 score 1 Flohru 11,8 148,4 5 2 Profomisakari 11,6 137,8 5 3 Sumo Spiffy 11,3 150 3 4 Hakuryuho 11,2 120,2 5 5 Chankomafuji 11 120,8 5 6 Oortael 10,8 118,4 5 7 Yarimotsu 10,4 119,8 5 8 Shatsume 10,4 115,8 5 9 Hoshotakamoto 10,3 134,7 3 10 ChickyStarr 10,2 107,4 5 11 Asojima 9,8 134,2 5 12 Susanoo 9,8 103,4 5 13 shimodahito 9,8 125,5 4 14 Mmikasazuma 9,5 88 2 15 Achiyama 9,3 89 4 16 Tameiki 9,2 100,8 5 17 Karasukurai 9 95,5 4 18 Peeter 9 95 2 19 Athenayama 9 92,8 5 20 Asapedroryu 9 92 5 21 Fujisan 9 90 5 22 Gansekiiwa 9 70 1 23 Wamahada 8,8 95 5 24 Benihana 8,8 90,6 5 25 Hakuhonofan 8,8 90,4 5 26 Kellyama 8,6 92,8 5 27 Suwihuto 8,5 112 2 28 Chartorenji 8,3 94,5 4 29 kujo 8,3 80 4 30 ScreechingOwl 8,3 72,5 4 31 Tochinofuji 8,2 86,4 5 32 RaeucherLax 8,2 71 5 33 WAKATAKE 8 80,6 5 34 chishafuwaku 7,4 88,6 5 35 Takanorappa 6 90 1 Profomisakari

Thanks! Yes! So should we do it. Thanks for the correct results listing! Great Congratulations to the winner H i s u i ! But why did you give me no better result values? Profomisakari

Day 15 - Takanosho

As I yesterday wrote: ( but now Day 14! ) - Wakatakakage

Day 13 Wakatakakage

Day 12 - Wakatakakage

I would give him the oldest: Day 11 - Tamawashi

I don't remember if my grandmother said anything about WMH. But I should take him. Day 10 - Wakamotoharu

Day 9 - Kotokazura

My grandmam said 80 years ago: "Endo good - alles good!"

Day 8 - Endo

Yes, Yarimotsu! So say the rules. And because he is not Kosho, but intai, he never can come back this Basho! Thank you! Profo

Day 7 - Ichiyamamoto

Day 6 - Hiradoumi

Day 5 - Tobizaru

Congratulations, this are also my results. I believe, you have no more problems. Now I can go to the hospital some days. Thanks! Rolf

Day 4 - Takayasu

I don't know why Yarimotsu couldn't post the Players ranking after day 1. If he hasn't time I will do it belated. But an info for Fujisan: You have (out of competition) one of three bouts correct, Paul. Profomisakari

Day 3 - Hiradoumi

So! Old people often work slowly. 25 people sent their votes per Mail to me. Now I have put together these emails with the players' tips in two tables. The yellow table contains all the tips, the second table contains the distribution of votes for each fight between A, B and X. During the basho can entered the day and the result (A or B) for all the fights that took place, and at the end "X" for the bouts that did not take place. As I will be unavailable for a few days during the basho, Yarimotsu will do that. Here come all players picks: Player 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 Diff 1 Tochinofuji A A B A B B B B B A A A A B B B A A B A B 249 2 Yarimotsu A B B X B B B X A A B A A A A A A A B A B 264 3 Gusoyama A A X A A B A A B A A B X B B A A B B A B 221 4 Athenayama X B X A A B A A A A B B X B B A A B B B B 245 5 Hisui A B X X B B B X X B B B X B X B B B B B B 253 6 Chicky Starr X B X X A B B A B A B B A B B B A A B A A 242 7 Wamahada A A X B B B A B B A A B A B B B B A A A B 260 8 Fashiriteta X A B X A B B A X A A B A B B B A A X A B 268 9 Ippikiōkami A B A B A B B A B B B B X A X A B A B A A 249 10 KARASUKURAI A A X A A B A A B B A A A A A A A B B A A 264 11 Rokudenashi A A B A B B B B B A A B B B A B A B B B B 258 12 RaeucherLax A B B B B B A B B A B A A B A A A A B A B 252 13 Andreas21 X B X A A B A A B B B B B B A A X B B B A 272 14 Shimodahito A A A X B B B B A A A B B A A A B B B B B 272 15 Wakatake A B X A A B A B B B A B A A B B A B B A A 250 16 Profomisakarri A A A X A B A A A A A B X A B A A A B A B 239 17 Susanoo B B X X B B A X X B X A X B A A B A B B B 280 18 Bunbukuchagama A A X X A B A B X B B B X B B A B A B A B 224 19 E9 A B X A B B B B X B X B X B X B B A X A A 273 20 Asset A B X X B B B B X B B B X B X A B B B A B 236 21 Flohru A B X X A B B X X B X B X A X A B B B B B 258 22 Benihana A B B B A B A A A B A B X B B B A A A B A 269 23 Hakuryuho A B A A A B B A B A B B B B B A B A B B A 239 24 Fia A B B X A B B A B B A B X B B A B A B B B 217 25 Eatplaysleepsumo A A B A A A B A B A B A X A B A X A B A B 271 And this is the table for the bout results: Nr A - B A B X Day Result 1 Terunofuji – Abi 20 1 4 2 Kotozakura - Hoshoryu 10 15 0 3 Takerufuji - Onosato 4 8 13 4 Wakamotoharu - Takayasu 10 4 11 5 Daieisho – Kirishima 15 10 0 6 6 Takanosho - Wakatakakage 1 24 0 7 Tobizaru - Oho 11 14 0 6 8 Atamifuji – Hiradoumi 12 9 4 9 Ichiyamamoto – Gonoyama 5 13 7 10 Shodai - Ura 13 12 0 1 11 Chiyoshoma – Churanoumi 11 11 3 12 Endo – Mitakeumi 6 19 0 1 13 Roga – Kinbozan 8 4 13 14 Takarafuji – Tamawashi 8 17 0 6 15 Oshoma – Shonannoumi 7 13 5 16 Meisei - Midorifuji 16 9 0 1 17 Nishikigi – Hokutofuji 12 11 2 18 Hakuoho – Onokatsu 15 10 0 6 19 Kagayaki – Kotoshoho 2 21 2 20 Kitanowaka – Nishikifuji 15 10 0 4 21 Tamashoho – Tokihayate 8 17 0 3 The column "Day" shows, that on day 1 three bouts will take place, but none on day 2. On day 3 we'll have one game 21 bout (bout 21) Into the last column of this table can Yarimotsu write the results of the bouts. Now is your time, Yarimotsu! Much luck! Profomisakari

1. Hoshoryu 12 2. Kotozakura 13 3. Onosato 10 4. Wakatakakage 11 5. Aonishiki KK 6. Gyokuozan MK 7. Kaiseijo MK 8. Tochimaru KK 9. Matsui KK 10. Inami KK 11. Dewataikai KK 12. Ienoshima KK 13. Daieisho 9 14. Hatsuyama KK TB 14

Excuse me, Paul ! As an very old man I didn't understand, that SF is this Sumoforum. I don't think you can send me a vote before the deadline. But I will allow you to submit your tip here in the forum after the deadline but before the Makuuchi starts. Then we will of course not be able to include your results into the ranking, but we can list them separately after the ranking. So that you can see how good or not you would have been if you had made the deadline. Other players who want to try the game 21, can also make use of this offer. This is not a rule change, but just an attempt to allow players like Fujisan to try the game out of competition. A word to Yarimotsu, who will do the daily evaluations and with whom I have not discussed this: You don't need to care about these tips. I will publish Fujisan's results (and those of other potential interested parties) separately after your regular evaluation. This is only an attempt. Certainly we won't need something like this in the later time. Profomisakari