Itachi 396 Posted September 19, 2006 Sandanme Game day 10 results shikona wins losses kk est. wins/15 Mirai 88 12 15 13.2 Doitsuyama 49 26 11 9.8 Yubiquitoyama 48 27 11 9.6 Itachi 47 28 10 9.4 Genzai 45 30 10 9 Sekihiryu 43 32 9 8.6 Kotononami 42 33 9 8.4 Tamanaogijima 40 32 9 8.33 Torideyama 41 34 9 8.2 Imumaru 41 34 8 8.2 Aderechelseamaru 40 35 8 8 Fay 39 36 7 7.8 Profomisakari 39 36 8 7.8 Oshirokita 38 37 7 7.6 Mukashi 37 38 7 7.4 Holleshoryu 33 42 5 6.6 Wolfgangho 33 42 6 6.6 Firstly, thanks to XiaoTan/Neko for the kind comments. I look forward to receiving your entry for Kyushu!The maezumo player is 55-20 with 13 kk and projected score of 11.00All but two of us human players are projected to reach kachikoshi. The drone Mukashi is close but Holleshoryu and Wolfgangho appear to be having a rough tournament.Doitsuyama, the well prepared, continues to lead but not by much.Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted September 19, 2006 Yes, Yes , Yes we are getting better (Blushing...) , the chocolate for Kainowaka was a good idea, he was very much motivated yesterday, today he will be around again, hope he hasn't already eaten all of it ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 20, 2006 Sandanme Game day 10 results shikona wins losses kk est. wins/15 Mirai 73 14 15 12.59 Doitsuyama 50 31 11 9.26 Yubiquitoyama 51 33 10 9.11 Itachi 49 32 10 9.07 Genzai 47 35 10 8.6 Sekihiryu 46 37 9 8.31 Torideyama 45 37 8 8.23 Tamanaogijima 43 36 8 8.16 Kotononami 46 39 8 8.12 Imumaru 43 39 6 7.87 Profomisakari 43 40 8 7.77 Fay 42 40 6 7.68 Aderechelseamaru 42 40 7 7.68 Oshirokita 41 42 5 7.41 Mukashi 39 41 7 7.31 Holleshoryu 36 44 5 6.75 Wolfgangho 36 46 4 6.59 No time for comments this morning!The Maesumo entry is now 58-27 with 12 kk and estimated score of 10.24Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 21, 2006 Sandanme Game day 10 results shikona wins losses kk est. wins/15 Mirai 75 15 15 12.5 Doitsuyama 56 34 9 9.33 Yubiquitoyama 55 35 10 9.17 Itachi 53 37 8 8.83 Genzai 51 39 9 8.5 Torideyama 49 41 7 8.17 Aderechelseamaru 49 41 7 8.17 Sekihiryu 49 41 8 8.17 Kotononami 49 41 8 8.17 Tamanaogijima 46 40 7 8.02 Profomisakari 47 43 7 7.83 Imumaru 47 43 6 7.83 Mukashi 45 45 6 7.5 Fay 45 45 6 7.5 Oshirokita 43 47 5 7.17 Holleshoryu 41 49 4 6.83 Wolfgangho 41 49 4 6.83 Once again, I haven't got time to add anythin, sorry. Perhaps later today.The Maezumo entry is now 62-28 with 12 kk and estimated score of 10.33. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 22, 2006 Sandanme Game day 13 results shikona wins losses kk est. wins/15 Mirai 78 17 15 12.32 Doitsuyama 57 35 10 9.29 Yubiquitoyama 58 37 11 9.16 Itachi 56 39 9 8.84 Genzai 54 42 10 8.44 Tamanaogijima 51 41 9 8.32 Sekihiryu 53 43 9 8.28 Aderechelseamaru 50 42 8 8.15 Torideyama 50 43 8 8.06 Imumaru 50 43 7 8.06 Profomisakari 51 45 8 7.97 Kotononami 51 45 9 7.97 Fay 49 45 7 7.82 Mukashi 49 48 7 7.58 Oshirokita 45 51 6 7.03 Wolfgangho 43 51 4 6.86 Holleshoryu 42 50 5 6.85 Hey, did anyone notice that the Day 11 and Day 12 results were labeled Day 10? I had forgotten to change the title in the table. The Maezumo entry is 64-30 with 13 kk rikishi and projected score of 10.21. 13 kk rikishi is really impressive. We shall see if the new player can repeat that feat in November.The scores are really centred at 8-7 with only two 9 win scores, a 7, and two 6s. The final adjustments should cause a bit more of a spread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 23, 2006 Sandanme Game day 14 results shikona wins losses kk est. wins/15 Mirai 83 18 15 12.33 Doitsuyama 61 38 10 9.24 Yubiquitoyama 61 39 11 9.15 Itachi 59 43 10 8.68 Genzai 56 43 10 8.48 Tamanaogijima 53 42 9 8.37 Sekihiryu 56 46 9 8.24 Torideyama 54 45 9 8.18 Profomisakari 55 46 8 8.17 Aderechelseamaru 52 45 9 8.04 Fay 51 46 8 7.89 Kotononami 52 47 9 7.88 Imumaru 51 47 7 7.81 Mukashi 51 51 7 7.5 Oshirokita 48 52 6 7.2 Holleshoryu 48 52 6 7.2 Wolfgangho 46 53 6 6.97 67-33 and 13 kk projected score 10.05 for the maezumo player.These are the unadjusted scores with no kk points or groups winner, yusho winner points factored in. Putting in the kk factor has little effect but I think including the number of group winners will. Otherwise, we have very little spread between the top and bottom records. 9 wins to 7 wins. With the other scoring factors, we had more of a spread last time. It's better for banzuke making I would think.Doitsuyama has the lead but just barely! Yubiquitoyama is very close and actually comes out ahead if I factor in the number of kk by 9.39 to 9.34. Also, Doitsuyama has 6 bouts left while Yubi-zeki has only 5.Wolfgangho looks certain to finish mk with the simple win-loss scoring. He has 6 bouts remaining and would finish 52-53 even winning them all.Oshirokita and Holleshoryu each have 5 bouts left and need to win all five to finish 53-52.I'm very curious to see how many group leaders everyone has. I'll post that information once I've had time to work it out.Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) Sandanme Game day 15 results shikona wins losses kk group wins yusho? wins/15 score Mirai 86 19 15 15 yusho 12.29 15 Doitsuyama 67 38 10 6 jun-yusho 9.57 10 Yubiquitoyama 65 40 11 4 jun-yusho 9.29 9 Fay 56 49 8 4 yusho 8 9 Itachi 61 44 10 3 jun-yusho 8.71 9 Genzai 61 44 10 3 jun-yusho 8.71 9 Tamanaogijima 57 43 9 3 jun-yusho 8.55 8 Torideyama 59 46 9 2 jun-yusho 8.43 8 Aderechelseamaru 58 47 9 3 jun-yusho 8.29 8 Sekihiryu 57 48 9 4 jun-yusho 8.14 8 Profomisakari 57 48 8 4 jun-yusho 8.14 8 Kotononami 57 48 9 1 jun-yusho 8.14 8 Mukashi 52 53 7 3 jun-yusho 7.43 7 Imumaru 53 51 7 1 jun-yusho 7.64 7 Holleshoryu 51 54 6 2 jun-yusho 7.29 7 Oshirokita 49 55 6 1 jun-yusho 7.07 7 Wolfgangho 47 57 6 1 none 6.78 6 Well, firstly, congratulations to Doitsuyama who won the yusho.As for the scoring, I've shown the basic wins/losses score that I've been reporting all along as well as all the relevant details for the final score such as number of group winners and yusho winner.After trying a number of different variations, I ended up sticking with the same formula I used last time with only a minor difference.Scoring points are accumulated as described initially. One point for each win, kk, and group winner. If you have the yusho winner you get 15/15 for your yusho score.If you have a rikishi who lost a playoff to the yusho winner, you get 10/15.If you have one of the jun-yusho winners, you get 5/15.The raw scores are scaled just enough so Mirai's score is 14.5 (rounds to 15).This last bit is the only change form last basho.Unfortunately, we don't good balance with half of us getting kk and half mk but maybe we're just too good.Now to solve the banzuke problem ...Thanks for playing!ItachiOh, and the Maezumo entry finished 71-34 with 13kk, 6 group winners, a jun-yusho winner, a win/loss score of 10.14 and a final score of 11. Edited September 25, 2006 by Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted September 26, 2006 Thanks for running the game Itachi. The method, choose your favourite rikishis or your favourite heya still works :-D, well not as good as Doitsuyamas methods but anyway, I'm happy for my rikishi who did so well. So I will make an analysis when I'm home again, which hopefully will be this evening when the flight isn't delayed even more it is already :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 26, 2006 Here is a list of everyone's picks and how they did. Sandanme Game lineups Heisei 18 Aki Mukashi group rikishi wins losses 1 Miyamaru 1 6 2 Kubota 2 5 3 Nankairiki 3 4 4 Kirinishiki 3 4 5 Toho 1 6 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Teruyama 4 3 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Tamanotaka 2 5 11 Hidaka 4 3 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Asahibenten 5 2 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Ikehara 6 1 Itachi group rikishi wins losses 1 Yamasaki 5 2 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Gotenyu 2 5 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Teruyama 4 3 9 Kagamio 4 3 10 Yuminosato 3 4 11 Tomishima 4 3 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Asahibenten 5 2 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Fay group rikishi wins losses 1 Kotokuni 5 2 2 Ettoryu 5 2 3 Kainowaka 5 2 4 Wakamifuji 7 0 5 Arawashi 2 5 6 Hotaka 4 3 7 Kotomisen 2 5 8 Wakatora 2 5 9 Daionami 4 3 10 Yutsukasa 3 4 11 Kakushoma 2 5 12 Takashoma 3 4 13 Takamiryu 4 3 14 Takakiho 5 2 15 Kasugamine 3 4 Profomisakari group rikishi wins losses 1 Miyamaru 1 6 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Nankairiki 3 4 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Toho 1 6 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Teruyama 4 3 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Tamanotaka 2 5 11 Kamakura 6 1 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Asahibenten 5 2 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Ikehara 6 1 Torideyama group rikishi wins losses 1 Hayasegawa 4 3 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Gotenyu 2 5 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Minaminoshima 6 1 6 Tamao 5 2 7 Fujitsukasa 3 4 8 Murayoshi 4 3 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Orora 5 2 11 Hanada 3 4 12 Ryuyo 4 3 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Minanosato 2 5 15 Mouri 5 2 Imumaru group rikishi wins losses 1 Kotohikari 3 4 2 Ashu 3 3 3 Kainowaka 5 2 4 Akinohana 3 4 5 Nagai 4 3 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Tanno 2 5 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Futamusashi 5 2 11 Kakushoma 2 5 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Hamaeiko 4 3 14 Mutsuryuyama 4 3 15 Azumi 2 5 Aderechelseamaru group rikishi wins losses 1 Yamasaki 5 2 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Hokutoarashi 5 2 4 Akinohana 3 4 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Hotaka 4 3 7 Sadanoshima 6 1 8 Wakatora 2 5 9 Soryuzan 4 3 10 Notononami 2 5 11 Ryukiyama 5 2 12 Bungonishiki 5 2 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Nakatsunishiki 4 3 15 Azumi 2 5 Oshirokita group rikishi wins losses 1 Kotohikari 3 4 2 Teruazuma 4 3 3 Nankairiki 3 4 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Kotomisen 2 5 8 Isoazuma 3 4 9 Maenoyu 4 3 10 Asahisakari 5 2 11 Munakata 4 3 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Masutoo 2 5 14 Tochitaiga 2 5 15 Hoshiazuma 1 5 Holleshoryu group rikishi wins losses 1 Miyamaru 1 6 2 Takamaru 3 4 3 Nankairiki 3 4 4 Tokiryu 4 3 5 Omusashi 3 4 6 Chiyonohana 2 5 7 Kotomisen 2 5 8 Saito 4 3 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Asahisakari 5 2 11 Hanada 3 4 12 Fukuda 3 4 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Kurosawa 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Tamanaogijima group rikishi wins losses 1 Hayasegawa 4 3 2 Ettoryu 5 2 3 Kainowaka 5 2 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Kagemaru 3 4 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Hidenofuji 4 3 8 Taganomine 1 1 9 Maenoyu 4 3 10 Yuminosato 3 4 11 Terunosato 2 5 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Masutoo 2 5 14 Kurosawa 5 2 15 Kyokuhikari 5 2 Sekihiryu group rikishi wins losses 1 Yamasaki 5 2 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Gotenyu 2 5 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Toho 1 6 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Kotomisen 2 5 8 Teruyama 4 3 9 Nioyama 2 5 10 Asahisakari 5 2 11 Hidaka 4 3 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Takamiryu 4 3 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Ikehara 6 1 Wolfgangho group rikishi wins losses 1 Kotohikari 3 4 2 Ashu 3 3 3 Ryukai 3 4 4 Tokiryu 4 3 5 Toho 1 6 6 Wakakengo 3 4 7 Wakakasuga 4 3 8 Tanno 2 5 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Notononami 2 5 11 Seifu 4 3 12 Chiyonoshin 5 2 13 Toma 1 6 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Doitsuyama group rikishi wins losses 1 Kotokuni 5 2 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Yonemura 6 1 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Teruyama 4 3 9 Hatayama 3 4 10 Yutsukasa 3 4 11 Kachimori 3 4 12 Hananosato 6 1 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Kurosawa 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Yubiquitoyama group rikishi wins losses 1 Asanotosa 5 2 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Kainowaka 5 2 4 Kirinishiki 3 4 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Tokusegawa 5 2 9 Maenoyu 4 3 10 Orora 5 2 11 Munakata 4 3 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Asahibenten 5 2 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Kotononami group rikishi wins losses 1 Fujinokaze 4 3 2 Kyokushoten 1 6 3 Kainowaka 5 2 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Fujitsukasa 3 4 8 Tanno 2 5 9 Maenoyu 4 3 10 Orora 5 2 11 Terunosato 2 5 12 Ouka 5 2 13 Omatsuda 5 2 14 Fusanohana 3 4 15 Kyokuhikari 5 2 Genzai group rikishi wins losses 1 Miyamaru 1 6 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Kainowaka 5 2 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Teruyama 4 3 9 Ikeda 2 5 10 Orora 5 2 11 Hidaka 4 3 12 Dewahikari 3 4 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Mirai group rikishi wins losses 1 Yamasaki 5 2 1 Kotokuni 5 2 1 Asanotosa 5 2 2 Ettoryu 5 2 3 Yonemura 6 1 4 Wakamifuji 7 0 5 Minaminoshima 6 1 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Sadanoshima 6 1 8 Tokusegawa 5 2 9 Daishoki 5 2 10 Sasaki 6 1 11 Kamakura 6 1 12 Hananosato 6 1 13 Nionoumi 6 1 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Yutakaumi 5 2 14 Takakiho 5 2 14 Matsutani 5 2 14 Kurosawa 5 2 15 Ikehara 6 1 Randomitsuki group rikishi wins losses 1 Yamasaki 5 2 2 Morioka 3 4 3 Hokutoarashi 5 2 4 Gagamaru 5 2 5 Masuhikari 2 5 6 Sakaizawa 6 1 7 Takunishiki 5 2 8 Tokusegawa 5 2 9 Maenoyu 4 3 10 Asahisakari 5 2 11 Munakata 4 3 12 Hananosato 6 1 13 Hoshihikari 6 1 14 Matsutani 5 2 15 Mouri 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 26, 2006 Yes, the secret is out. Randomitsuki was the Maezumo player. He had set up a complicated system to select his picks but he was unable to complete his selections before the tournament deadline so he was relegated to maezumo. I do not believe he gained any advantage from seeing results so I see him as the most competitve player among us. Perhaps his system will not perform so well in November but clearly he is a strong opponent in any sumo game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted September 26, 2006 As for other Sd Game topics, Fay was the only rikishi to select the yusho winner, Wakamifuji (apart form Mirai, of course). This is why she finished 3rd overall despite only averaging 8 wins. Yubiquitoyama had the most kk rikishi with 11. Genzai, Doitsuyama, and I managed 10. (Randomistuki had 13!!) Doitsuyama had 6 group winners (as did Randomitsuki) which was 2 better than anyone else competing. For the negative side, Wolfgangho's best rikishi only had 5 wins so he didn't even get jun-yusho points. As for most average rikishi, it should be no surprise to Makushita Game players that I, Itachi, was among the leaders but Profomisakari and Yubiquitoyama had as many popular picks as I with 9. Sekihiryu had the most unique team with none of Genzai's picks while Fay was close behind with only 1 (Kainowaka). I am really grateful that so many of you took the time to play this game. Also, I see that many of you are reading my daily updates which encourages me to make the effort to wake up early and prepare them. I hope you enjoyed exploring the Sandanme division while deciding on your selections and I hope that your involvement in this game made the daily results a little more meaningful to you. As for me, I enjoy preparing to do battle with the rest of you by trying to find rikishi who can succeed at their current rank. Games such as this one help me focus and organize my analysis of the sung and unsung heroes of these less noticed ranks. If you have any comments or criticisms feel free to share them with me either through this forum or by PM. Thank you particpants and spectators, Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted September 27, 2006 As I said this was once again the guess favourite rikishi, favourite Heya, I think I will stay with it, although I might never win the yusho :'-( Sooo - Kotokuni, my Sadogatake man with a fine 5-2 - Ettoryu, 5-2, my first adoptee. He was quite motivated, when he saw he was photographed and someone clapped when he did well. So he made a great basho and he should go up to Makushita. - Kainowaka, 5-2, my favourite Tomozuna man. I must confess I made a little doping with german marsipan and chocolate and it worked, 5 straight wins and I think he will fight in Makushita in his hometown. - Wakamifuji, 7-0, I choose him last Sandanme game and this time he did even better and got the yusho (and me a kk) - Arawashi, 2-5, he was injured the whole basho and had a bandage at his shoulder. It even turned out worse in his last fight, hope he recovers soon (In a state of confusion...) - Hotaka, 4-3, my stand-by man, but he did a good job - Kotomisen, 2-5, one of my adoptees :-), he had really big opponents this time and no chance - Wakatora, 2-5, hmmm - Daionami, 4-3, nice done - Yutsukasa, 3-4, no idea why I choose Yutsukasa???? - Kakushoma, 2-5 and Izutsu Oyakata was not so happy, but he will do better next time - Takashoma, 3-4, poor boy, didn't get a reward from Takanohana Oyakata - Takamiryu, 4-3, well done - Takakiho, 5-2, my favourite from Takanohana Beya, made a great performance and promised to be a sekitori soon, well we will see ... Kasugamine, 3-4, hmmmmm And I hope to show some of them soon in my photoupload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites