Itachi 396 Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) Now that Hallowe'en is over, it is time to give serious consideration to the Kyushu basho. The banzuke has been released and sumo gamers thoughout the world are preparing themselves to make their selections in an ever increasing variety of sumogames. Some of these sumo fans are interested in the non-sekitori divisions - perhaps to keep an eye on future sekitori or perhaps for the enjoyment of watching the progress of new rikishi who have yet to discover their potential. Perhaps some of us just enjoy a fresh new frontier for indulging our competitve urges. Whatever the reason, the lower divsion games are here for these sumo gamers. The Juryo Game introduced me to this world. To make a judgement on new sekitori, I had to take a good look at their performance in Makushita in previous tournaments. Much later, Oshirokita invited us to consider who might compete for a yusho in each of the divisions right down to Jonokuchi. Randomitsuki offered us a chance to test our ability to predict successful rikishi througout the Makushita division. Sumogamers responded and the games now enjoy a modest but loyal following. I had been calling for a Makushita game for several basho before Randomitsuki actually made it happen and I felt that I should make the next contribution to lower division gaming myself, hence the Sandanme Game. This will be the third tournament for this game and the number of participants more than doubled last time so that we had close to our target of one half the number of players in the Makushita Game. Lower division games are not for everyone and so I expect the number of players to remain low but I welcome any and all who wish to give it a try. For those who have not been following along, here is a link to the previous basho of the Sandanme Game. http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=10029 I have been learning on the job and the table displays have gotten better. The scoring system works and all that remains is to set up a banzuke. I haven't done that yet, but I'll get one out there this weekend. Here is how the game works ... Pick 15 Sandanme riksihi. I have divided the division into 15 groups (15 is a useful number in sumogames) The top half of Sandanme is divided into 10 groups - Sd 1-5, Sd 6-10 etc. The lower half of Sandanme is divided into 5 groups - Sd 51-60, Sd 61-70 etc. Pick one rikishi from each group and send them to me at nmatsuo@shaw.ca Scoring You earn .1 point for each win by your rikishi. You earn .1 point for each kachikoshi rikishi. You earn .1 point for each rikishi who leads his group. With 15 rikishi, you could earn up to 13.5 points. We want scores out of 15 for nice win-loss results. The extra 1.5 points are based on the sandame yusho winning score. If you have the yusho winner you get the full 1.5 If you have a rikishi with as many wins as the yusho winner (a playoff match loser) you get 1.0 points. If you have a rikishi with one win less than the yusho winner you earn 0.5 points. Drones Unless there are 15 7-0 rikishi, it is not possible to get 15 points - the best possible team is represented by the drone Mirai who knows the future and picks the best possible lineup. Our scores will be adjusted at the end of the tournament so that Mirai's score will round to 15-0. The drone Genzai will select the most popular rikishi from each group. Genzai's selections will not be known until all entries are in. The drone Mukashi selects the rikishi who had the best records last tournament or beyond if there is a tie. I will post Mukashi's selections this weekend. Mirai always has the best record but is not eligible to win the yusho. Mukashi tends to have one of the poorer records so you should aim to do better than just pick the best rikishi from last time. I look forward to receiving your selections. Itachi Edited November 2, 2006 by Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) Sandanme Game Banzuke Kyushu 2006 East Yokozuna 1 Mirai YE (15-0) East Komusubi 1 Doitsuyama M3E (10-5) West Komusubi 1 Itachi M1E (9-6) East Komusubi 2 Genzai M1W (9-6) West East Maegashira 1 Fay M2W (9-6 West Maegashira 1 Sekihiryu M2E (8-7) East Maegashira 2 Tamanaogijima M3W (8-7) West Maegashira 2 Torideyama M4E (8-7) East Maegashira 3 Yubiquitoyama M8E (9-6) West Maegashira 3 Profomisakari M5E (8-7) East Maegashira 4 Aderechelseamaru M6E (8-7) West Maegashira 4 Kotononami M8W (8-7) East Maegashira 5 Mukashi M4W (7-8) West Maegashira 5 Imumaru M5W (7-8) East Maegashira 6 Oshirokita M6W (7-8) West Maegashira 6 Holleshoryu M7E (7-8) East Maegashira 7 Wolfgangho M7W (6-9) West Maegashira 7 Randomitsuki Mae (11-4) Here's the new Banzuke for this game.Most of you joined last basho and I placed you on the banzuke in order of your entry. Torideyama was first since he had attempted to send me an entry for the first tournament - thus he should've been on the first banzuke as a kosho. Randomitsuki had a fine tournament but he was a couple of days too late so he enters this tournament from Maezumo.I've only received 3 entries so far and one is mine. www.scgroup.com/sumo has updated their database today so there is a convenient resource there for making selections. I will be posting Mukashi's entry soon as a result.Itachi Edited November 5, 2006 by Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 5, 2006 Mukashi 1 Kamakura 2 Hananosato 3 Tokusegawa 4 Nionoumi 5 Tokitairyu 6 Tsuchihashi 7 Shima 8 Ikehara 9 Kitazono 10 Tochinoshin 11 Daishoyu 12 Mouri 13 Akai 14 Takedani 15 Takaazuma Mukashi selects the rikishi from each group who had the best result last basho. If there is a tie, Mukashi looks at the basho before last and so on. Mukashi tends to come close to kachikoshi without achieving it. Kyujo rikishi default replacements will come from Mukashi's list. I won't leave anyone with a kyujo rikishi unless they request it but you may select your own replacement if they have not had a bout yet. Doitsuyama's banzuke post in the main forum is another good resource since it lists birthdates, height, and weight of rikishi. Good luck with your picks! Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 11, 2006 As Akai is injured, Mukashi selects the next best previous record - Kotobuki for the 71-80 group. So far I have entries from these rikishi. Itachi Profomisakari Fay Randomitsuki Wolfgangho Holleshoryu Kotononami Aderechelseamaru Torideyama Neko Tamanaogijima and, of course the three drones, Mukashi, Genzai, and Mirai. Mukashi's picks are already listed above. These are the rikishi with the best previous records. Once the deadline has passed (all rikishi have had a bout) I'll present Genzai's picks. Genzai picks the most popular rikishi so Genzai must wait until no more selections can be made. Mirai's picks are unknowable until the end of the tournment since it picks those who will finish with the best records. We are still waiting for 5 of the players from last time but we have 2 new players (counting Randomitsuki who participated in maezumo with his late entry last time). Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 12, 2006 Selection Stats Kyushu 06 group number taken Rikishi popularity Sd 1-5 8 Kamakura 7 Sd 6-10 7 Takunishiki 5 Sd 11-15 8 Nagai 5 Sd 16-20 5 Nionoumi 7 Sd 21-25 5 Tokitairyu 7 Sd 26-30 8 Maenoyu 6 Sd 31-35 7 Shima 6 Sd36-40 5 Ikehara 10 Sd 41-45 5 Kitazono 8 Sd 46-50 5 Tochinoshin 10 Sd 51-60 7 Daishoyu 7 Sd 61-70 8 Mouri 7 Sd 71-80 8 Kotobuki 5 Sd 81-90 8 Takedani 5 Sd 91-100 8 Takaazuma 9 I am pleased to announce that all players from last tournament have returned and we have a couple of new players as well.Some players sent their selections after I produced this table so I'll update it once I've added them which might not be until tomorrow. Doitsuyama, Asashosakari, and Yubiquitoyama are the latest entrants (but not too late).Without considering the latest entries, 107 of the 200 Sandanme rikishi have been selected by at least one player. 5 of those were kyujo and so they have been replaced by active rikishi. I am still waiting for confirmation from Neko on this but the default is to grant Mukashi's pick in place of any kyujo rikishi.Tochinoshin and Ikehara are the most popular so far with 10 of 16 selecting them.The first, third, and sixth groups each had 8 of 10 rikishi selected so those may have been the toughest ones to pick.I hope you all enjoy this game as much as I enjoy running it. I'll do my best to update the standings regularly and I thank you all for playing.Good luckItachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 12, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 1 Results shikona wins losses [/center] wins/15 Mirai 15 0 15 Asashosakari 6 1 12.86 Yubiquitoyama 6 1 12.86 Itachi 5 1 12.5 Doitsuyama 6 2 11.25 Kotononami 2 1 10 Neko 4 2 10 Fay 5 3 9.38 Genzai 5 3 9.38 Oshirokita 5 4 8.33 Wolfgangho 6 5 8.18 Mukashi 4 4 7.5 Randomitsuki 2 2 7.5 Sekihiryu 4 4 7.5 Imumaru 4 4 7.5 Holleshoryu 2 3 6 Tamanaogijima 3 5 5.63 Profomisakari 2 5 4.29 Torideyama 2 6 3.75 Aderechelseamaru 1 4 3 Here are the results from Day 1.Thanks for playing everyone! We have 20 players now (including the 3 drones) and no one is missing from previous tournaments so I am very pleased. This pushes me to find more efficient ways of collecting entries and inputing them into my massive spreadsheet system but that will be a project for December.The selection stats have changed a bit due to a few last minute entries. I'll have those up along with Genzai's selections soon.Yubiquitoyama is receiving Mukashi's pick for the Sd16-20 group unless he can find another rikishi in that group who hasn't had a day 1 match (before his day 2 match!). Neko is also receiving a replacement pick due to a kyujo rikishi and unless these players respond with different instructions, those replacements will remain.A message to Kotononami: I've had no success in replying to the address you sent your picks from so that is why you did not receive a confirmation message. It is good that you didn't have a kyujo problem!Good luck on Day 2Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotononami 86 Posted November 12, 2006 A message to Kotononami: I've had no success in replying to the address you sent your picks from so that is why you did not receive a confirmation message. It is good that you didn't have a kyujo problem!Itachi Ok thanks for your message... strange thing! This adress usually works (In a state of confusion...) But I've had a look at the sandanme kyujo list (Thanks to Fukurou) , so I would have changed my picks in case of problem. Thanks again for running this game Itachi ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 13, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 2 Results shikona wins losses wins/15 Mirai 15 0 15 Itachi 13 2 13 Doitsuyama 12 3 12 Asashosakari 12 3 12 Yubiquitoyama 12 3 12 Mukashi 10 5 10 Neko 10 5 10 Genzai 10 5 10 Oshirokita 9 6 9 Sekihiryu 9 6 9 Imumaru 9 6 9 Wolfgangho 8 7 8 Profomisakari 8 7 8 Fay 8 7 8 Randomitsuki 8 7 8 Holleshoryu 8 7 8 Aderechelseamaru 8 7 8 Torideyama 8 7 8 Tamanaogijima 8 7 8 Kotononami 7 8 7 Here are the results after two days. Every rikishi has had one bout.And here are the updated selection stats (and Genzai's picks). Selection Stats Kyushu 06 group number taken Rikishi popularity Sd 1-5 8 Kamakura 7 Sd 6-10 7 Hananosato 6 Sd 11-15 8 Nagai 5 Sd 16-20 6 Nionoumi 8 Sd 21-25 5 Hoshihikari 9 Sd 26-30 8 Maenoyu 6 Sd 31-35 8 Shima 6 Sd36-40 6 Ikehara 12 Sd 41-45 5 Kitazono 11 Sd 46-50 5 Tochinoshin 13 Sd 51-60 7 Daishoyu 8 Sd 61-70 8 Mouri 10 Sd 71-80 8 Tokitsukasa 5 Sd 81-90 8 Takedani 6 Sd 91-100 8 Takaazuma 12 Good luck on day 3.Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 14, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 3 Results shikona wins losses wins/15 Mirai 28 0 15 Yubiquitoyama 19 4 12.39 Doitsuyama 19 5 11.88 Itachi 18 5 11.74 Asashosakari 17 5 11.59 Genzai 16 8 10 Randomitsuki 14 8 9.55 Mukashi 15 9 9.38 Imumaru 15 9 9.38 Tamanaogijima 13 8 9.29 Holleshoryu 14 9 9.13 Oshirokita 12 8 9 Neko 12 9 8.57 Sekihiryu 12 10 8.18 Torideyama 11 10 7.86 Wolfgangho 12 11 7.83 Profomisakari 13 13 7.5 Aderechelseamaru 11 11 7.5 Fay 10 11 7.14 Kotononami 10 12 6.82 It's only been three days, the drones have all been good so far. According to my summary table, Sekihiryu and Fay are the only players without a 2-0 rikishi. They each have 6 1-0 rikishi so perhaps after tonight they will have someone get their second win for them. Good luck on day 4. Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) I'm not worried, I have Kakureizan and Kotohikari tomorrow, they will make it :-) Correction: they could have made it ... Edited November 15, 2006 by Fay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 17, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 5 Results shikona wins losses wins/15 Mirai 37 0 15 Asashosakari 30 8 11.84 Itachi 28 8 11.67 Yubiquitoyama 28 9 11.35 Doitsuyama 27 9 11.25 Randomitsuki 27 11 10.66 Holleshoryu 25 13 9.87 Genzai 23 12 9.86 Mukashi 23 14 9.32 Imumaru 22 14 9.17 Torideyama 23 15 9.08 Tamanaogijima 23 15 9.08 Sekihiryu 22 15 8.92 Profomisakari 22 16 8.68 Oshirokita 19 16 8.14 Kotononami 17 16 7.73 Aderechelseamaru 18 18 7.5 Wolfgangho 19 20 7.31 Neko 16 20 6.67 Fay 15 23 5.92 Sorry for the delay! We had a wind storm here and the power was out for half a day - the internet for over a day. Everything except the phone has been re-established but we are expecting more strong winds tomorrow...It's still a bit early to look at including the kk and group leader points but if we did, Doitsuyama and myself would be tied for the lead. Doitsuyama has the group leader (or co-leader) in 8 of the 15 groups!Good luck tonight.Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted November 17, 2006 Hard times for my team ... but we will fight!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 6 Results shikona wins losses wins/15 Mirai 45 0 15 Asashosakari 35 10 11.67 Yubiquitoyama 35 10 11.67 Itachi 34 11 11.33 Doitsuyama 33 12 11 Randomitsuki 31 14 10.33 Mukashi 30 15 10 Genzai 30 15 10 Torideyama 29 16 9.67 Tamanaogijima 29 16 9.67 Holleshoryu 28 17 9.33 Sekihiryu 28 17 9.33 Profomisakari 27 18 9 Imumaru 27 18 9 Oshirokita 26 19 8.67 Kotononami 23 22 7.67 Aderechelseamaru 23 22 7.67 Wolfgangho 22 22 7.5 Fay 19 25 6.48 Neko 19 26 6.33 And Fay has fought as promised! She went 4-2 last night overtaking Neko who has a poor outing with a 3-6 result.Yubiquitoyama and Asashosakari appear tied based only on wins and losses but Yubi-zeki has an incredible 14 rikishi trending towards kk to Asa's 12 (which is also very good). In addition, Asashosakari oddly has no rikishi leading their group - not one?! I'll have to check my formulae again. Anyway, Doitsuyama is the leader in this category - still the only one with more than half (8). Yubi-zeki has 6. Mukashi is listed ahead of Genzai but it really should be the other way around as Genzai beats Mukashi in kk and they are identical otherwise. I found it odd that these two have been so close all tournament and upon inspection, it seems that they have 11 picks in common!Since Genzai is determined by our collective picks, many of us must have relied heavily on the last basho results to make our selections. This may not seem unusual but in the first two trials of this game, our collective favorite picks did much better than the best previous record team of Mukashi so this is a departure. On the bright side, both Genzai and Mukashi are doing fairly well. It may be that this time the best performers from last basho are still the best prospects for this one.Our measuring stick for that is Mirai. Comparing Mirai's current projected picks (we won't know for sure until the end) there are 5 rikishi who have been selected (may have been) by all three drones. 5 of the 11 shared picks of Genzai and Mukashi are currently the best available.One last item: Collectively (including the drones) our winning % is 63.8Well done everyone.Good luck on day 7.Itachi Edited November 18, 2006 by Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,651 Posted November 18, 2006 As far as I can tell, I had eight group leaders (all at 3-0) as of Day 6... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted November 18, 2006 Not so bad today,even my winless Kotootori got his first point. We come slowly,but we will come ... B-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 18, 2006 As far as I can tell, I had eight group leaders (all at 3-0) as of Day 6... Right you are! The formula was off in my spreadsheet. I've fixed it and you still have 8 group leaders after day 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 5 Results shikona wins losses wins/15 Mirai 49 2 14.41 Itachi 41 11 11.83 Yubiquitoyama 38 12 11.4 Doitsuyama 39 13 11.25 Asashosakari 39 13 11.25 Genzai 36 15 10.59 Randomitsuki 35 15 10.5 Mukashi 34 16 10.2 Torideyama 32 17 9.8 Sekihiryu 31 17 9.69 Profomisakari 33 19 9.52 Tamanaogijima 31 18 9.49 Imumaru 33 20 9.34 Holleshoryu 32 20 9.23 Oshirokita 29 21 8.7 Aderechelseamaru 28 24 8.08 Kotononami 27 25 7.79 Wolfgangho 26 27 7.36 Neko 24 27 7.06 Fay 22 26 6.88 Wow, after a fine 6-0 night, I, Itachi, have taken the lead. Yubiquitoyama, Doitsuyama, and Asashosakari are close behind. Genzai has pulled ahead of Mukashi which should be good news for everyone since we collectively made Genzai's picks.At the bottom end, Fay and Neko both had good outings and are climbing towards kk territory.Good luck on Nakabi.ItachiOne more thing, notice that Mirai now has 2 losses. That means there are two groups without undefeated rikishi (or possibly one group with no one better than 2 losses but I don't think so). Edited November 18, 2006 by Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted November 19, 2006 Climbing towards KK? :-) Now my second man is injured ... So for the rest of my team: Gambareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 19, 2006 Ok, here is a more complete table of results for you.Now that the tournament is more than half complete, I'm including the kk, group win, and even the projected yusho points so you can see how your final score is shaping up.The est. kk column counts how many of your rikishi have a majority of wins to date. If your rikishi is 2-2 they are not counted.The group win column counts how many of your rikishi are tied for the most wins in their group. The best column shows the number of wins for your best rikishi. If this also the leading score for the whole division then you are projected to have the yusho winner and you get the full 15 yusho points for that (at basho end it will be only 10 if your rikishi loses in the playoff).If your best has just one less than the 'yusho' score then you get just 5 yusho points.The score is a result of adding all your wins, kk, group leads, and the yusho bonus points.Since Mirai is our benchmark of perfection, results are scaled just enough for Mirai to have a score of 14.5 (rounds to 15-0 record). Everyone gets a little boost that way to make up for the fact that it is not possible to have 15 7-0 rikishi all win the yusho.Here is the table. Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 8 Results shikona wins losses est. kk group wins best est. yusho points est. wins/15 score Mirai 55 5 15 15 4 15 13.75 14.5 Itachi 47 13 11 10 4 15 11.75 12.04 Asashosakari 44 16 12 9 4 15 11 11.6 Doitsuyama 43 17 10 8 4 15 10.75 11.02 Genzai 42 18 10 9 4 15 10.5 11.02 Yubiquitoyama 43 17 9 7 4 15 10.75 10.73 Mukashi 41 19 9 8 4 15 10.25 10.59 Randomitsuki 41 19 10 7 4 15 10.25 10.59 Tamanaogijima 40 20 9 7 4 15 10 10.3 Sekihiryu 39 21 9 8 4 15 9.75 10.3 Profomisakari 39 21 8 7 4 15 9.75 10.01 Imumaru 38 22 7 5 4 15 9.5 9.43 Torideyama 38 22 7 4 4 15 9.5 9.28 Holleshoryu 37 23 7 5 4 15 9.25 9.28 Oshirokita 35 25 7 6 4 15 8.75 9.14 Aderechelseamaru 32 28 5 4 4 15 8 8.12 Kotononami 31 29 5 3 4 15 7.75 7.83 Wolfgangho 29 29 3 3 4 15 7.5 7.39 Neko 29 31 5 1 3 5 7.25 5.8 Fay 27 31 4 2 3 5 6.98 5.62 If you see an error somewhere (number of kk rikishi, group winners) let me know so I can debug the master spreadsheet formula. I think everything is correct now but with so many cells and references, there could be something out of place.I seem to have taken over the lead for today. Not only because of the added factors but my overall win-loss record is currently best. Some of you who do not have a lot of kk or group leading rikishi will have win-loss scores that are better than your overall score. I've ranked us by overall score today.Good luck on day 9.Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 21, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 9 Results shikona wins losses kk group best yusho est. wins/15 score Mirai 64 7 15 15 5 15 13.52 14.5 Itachi 51 16 11 6 5 15 11.42 11.44 Asashosakari 49 21 12 6 5 15 10.5 11 Randomitsuki 48 23 11 3 5 15 10.14 10.24 Yubiquitoyama 45 20 10 3 5 15 10.38 10.24 Mukashi 45 22 9 5 5 15 10.07 10.2 Doitsuyama 45 21 10 3 5 15 10.23 10.15 Genzai 45 23 10 4 5 15 9.93 10.11 Tamanaogijima 43 25 9 4 5 15 9.49 9.7 Sekihiryu 40 24 9 3 5 15 9.38 9.49 Profomisakari 41 24 8 3 5 15 9.46 9.4 Holleshoryu 41 28 10 2 5 15 8.91 9.2 Imumaru 41 27 8 3 5 15 9.04 9.15 Oshirokita 37 27 7 3 5 15 8.67 8.78 Torideyama 39 29 7 2 5 15 8.6 8.6 Aderechelseamaru 36 36 6 3 5 15 7.5 7.91 Wolfgangho 31 35 3 2 5 15 7.05 7.09 Fay 32 35 7 1 4 5 7.16 6.2 Kotononami 32 36 6 2 4 5 7.06 6.15 Neko 32 37 6 1 4 5 6.96 5.96 Mukashi is having a terrific tournament and has now pulled ahead of Genzai. In past tournaments, Mukashi has hovered around the kk line but this tournament most of us would've done well to imitate its picks.Good luck on day 10Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 22, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 10 Results shikona wins losses kk group best yusho est. wins/15 score Mirai 66 9 15 15 5 15 13.2 14.5 Itachi 57 18 13 10 5 15 11.4 12.41 Yubiquitoyama 52 23 12 7 5 15 10.4 11.23 Asashosakari 51 24 12 8 5 15 10.2 11.23 Genzai 50 24 11 7 5 15 10.14 10.93 Doitsuyama 50 25 11 6 5 15 10 10.71 Mukashi 49 25 10 7 5 15 9.93 10.67 Randomitsuki 50 25 11 5 5 15 10 10.58 Tamanaogijima 47 27 10 6 5 15 9.53 10.27 Sekihiryu 46 28 10 7 5 15 9.32 10.27 Profomisakari 47 28 9 6 5 15 9.4 10.06 Holleshoryu 45 30 12 3 5 15 9 9.8 Imumaru 45 30 10 4 5 15 9 9.67 Oshirokita 43 31 9 5 5 15 8.72 9.48 Torideyama 42 33 7 4 5 15 8.4 8.88 Aderechelseamaru 38 37 7 3 5 15 7.6 8.23 Wolfgangho 36 36 4 3 5 15 7.5 7.77 Kotononami 35 40 6 3 5 15 7 7.71 Fay 34 37 7 1 4 5 7.18 6.35 Neko 35 40 6 2 4 5 7 6.27 I seem to be in great shape this tournament. 10 of my picks are currently leading their group. Asashosakari is the only other with a majority of group leaders. Most of us have done well by finding kachikoshi rikishi.53 is the magic number of wins to reach an overall kk in terms of wins and losses. I've passed that point now and Yubiquitoyama is just one win away.At the other end, no one has more than 40 losses so there is some hope that everyone could avoid ending in a losing position.On the other hand, it wouldn't be much of a game if everyone was kk every tournament. There wouldn't be much point in making a banzuke anyway.Good luck on day 11 (now underway!)Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 23, 2006 (edited) Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 11 Results shikona wins losses kk group best yusho est. wins/15 score Mirai 73 12 15 15 6 15 12.88 14.5 Itachi 60 23 13 5 6 15 10.84 11.61 Yubiquitoyama 54 26 12 3 6 15 10.13 10.73 Asashosakari 56 30 11 4 6 15 9.77 10.49 Randomitsuki 53 28 11 3 6 15 9.81 10.4 Tamanaogijima 53 29 10 4 6 15 9.7 10.31 Mukashi 55 30 9 4 6 15 9.71 10.2 Genzai 53 30 10 3 6 15 9.58 10.11 Profomisakari 51 30 9 4 6 15 9.44 10.02 Sekihiryu 50 32 10 4 6 15 9.15 9.94 Doitsuyama 53 30 9 2 6 15 9.58 9.86 Holleshoryu 50 32 11 1 6 15 9.15 9.69 Imumaru 50 32 10 2 6 15 9.15 9.69 Oshirokita 47 36 8 2 6 15 8.49 8.99 Torideyama 45 36 7 2 6 15 8.33 8.75 Aderechelseamaru 42 43 5 2 6 15 7.41 7.86 Fay 39 39 6 1 5 5 7.5 6.62 Kotononami 39 47 6 2 5 5 6.8 6.34 Wolfgangho 37 42 4 3 5 5 7.03 6.31 Neko 36 45 4 2 4 0 6.67 5.32 9 of 20 of us have clinched kk based only on win and losses.Kotononami is in the biggest danger of going mk with 47 losses already (53 for guaranteed mk).No one has more than 5 group leaders but all but 6 of us have a majority of kk rikishi.Neko is in a bit of trouble with no rikishi over 4 wins.Overall things look good for Itachi (me) this tournament as I lead in every category. I had expected to lose to at least four of you who tend to know their lower divisions well but it isn't turning out that way this time. Still there are 4 day's worth of bouts left and things could change a fair bit.Good luck on day 12Itachi Edited November 23, 2006 by Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted November 23, 2006 After Day 12 I guess I'm in a bit of trouble too ... (Blinking...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 24, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 12 Results shikona wins losses kk group best yusho est. wins/15 score Mirai 75 15 15 15 6 15 12.5 14.5 Itachi 62 28 12 8 6 15 10.33 11.72 Asashosakari 60 30 11 7 6 15 10 11.24 Yubiquitoyama 59 31 10 8 6 15 9.83 11.12 Randomitsuki 59 31 11 5 6 15 9.83 10.88 Genzai 56 32 10 6 6 15 9.55 10.67 Mukashi 56 32 9 6 6 15 9.55 10.55 Doitsuyama 58 32 9 5 6 15 9.67 10.51 Tamanaogijima 56 32 9 5 6 15 9.55 10.43 Sekihiryu 52 36 9 5 6 15 8.86 9.93 Profomisakari 54 36 9 4 6 15 9 9.91 Holleshoryu 54 36 8 5 6 15 9 9.91 Imumaru 54 36 8 4 6 15 9 9.79 Torideyama 53 37 7 4 6 15 8.83 9.55 Oshirokita 49 39 7 4 6 15 8.35 9.2 Aderechelseamaru 46 44 4 4 6 15 7.67 8.34 Kotononami 42 48 5 3 5 5 7 6.65 Wolfgangho 41 45 4 3 5 5 7.15 6.6 Fay 41 43 4 1 5 5 7.32 6.45 Neko 42 48 4 2 5 5 7 6.4 I've still got a slight edge over Asashosakari for the lead with just one bout per rikishi to go in the tournament.In previous tournaments, there's been a bunch of us clustered around 8-7 but this time only one of the 20 of us has a score of 8 at this point. Aderechelseamaru appears to have the kachikoshi line all to himself.Getting a few 6 win rikishi will be the key to escape from the cellar for the 4 players below Aderechelseamaru. Good luck on day 13.Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted November 25, 2006 Sandanme Game Kyushu 06 Day 13 Results shikona wins losses kk group best yusho est. wins/15 score Mirai 78 16 15 15 7 15 12.45 14.5 Itachi 63 30 12 7 7 15 10.16 11.52 Asashosakari 62 32 11 7 7 15 9.89 11.2 Randomitsuki 60 33 11 4 7 15 9.68 10.69 Genzai 57 33 10 6 7 15 9.5 10.68 Mukashi 58 34 9 6 7 15 9.46 10.53 Tamanaogijima 59 35 9 5 7 15 9.41 10.37 Sekihiryu 55 37 10 4 7 15 8.97 10.05 Holleshoryu 57 38 9 4 7 15 9 9.95 Profomisakari 55 40 9 4 7 15 8.68 9.71 Yubiquitoyama 60 34 11 6 6 5 9.57 9.67 Oshirokita 51 39 8 4 7 15 8.5 9.47 Doitsuyama 59 34 10 4 6 5 9.52 9.26 Imumaru 55 39 8 4 6 5 8.78 8.49 Torideyama 55 39 8 3 6 5 8.78 8.37 Aderechelseamaru 49 46 6 4 6 5 7.74 7.49 Wolfgangho 43 46 4 3 5 0 7.25 6.11 Kotononami 44 48 5 2 5 0 7.17 6.1 Fay 43 44 5 1 5 0 7.41 6.08 Neko 43 50 4 2 5 0 6.94 5.82 What a difference between 7 wins and 6!Not having a 7 win rikishi has hit hard for Yubiquitoyama and Doitsuyama who otherwise have strong records.Aderechelseamaru continues to flirt with the kk line.The bottom four have no one with more than 5 wins and will need a near perfect last set of bouts to avid mk.Good luck on day 14!Itachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
