Sumo Reference Updates

[Bunbukuchagama 708]

12 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

is a major rebuilding going on?

For the last 25 years or so. 

[Kaitetsu 289]

This is being a bit scary, its never down so long, maybe the admin is just busy with holidays to put it back up right now.

[Gurowake 4,035]

15 minutes ago, Kaitetsu said:

This is being a bit scary, its never down so long, maybe the admin is just busy with holidays to put it back up right now.

It's also quite a different error than we had been dealing with previously, suggesting that something new is going wrong.  I don't know enough about HTML error codes to know exactly what it means that the service is unavailable, but the fact it's not 404 and still have the gunbai icon on the page suggests that it still exists in some form but the server that is supposed to serve the web page is not working.

[Akinomaki 40,281]

On 23/12/2024 at 16:34, Gurowake said:

It's also quite a different error than we had been dealing with previously, suggesting that something new is going wrong.  I don't know enough about HTML error codes to know exactly what it means that the service is unavailable, but the fact it's not 404 and still have the gunbai icon on the page suggests that it still exists in some form but the server that is supposed to serve the web page is not working.

At least we are back to 404 now from 503

[Kaitetsu 289]

21 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

At least we are back to 404 now from 503

It was fully back earlier in the day for me, probably will be back later this week???

 

 

Edited December 25, 2024 by Kaitetsu

[Yamanashi 3,825]

Working as of 0013 EST (East coast US).  Yay!!

[Kaitetsu 289]

As of 0012 UTC, back to error 503

 

Edit: its been up for the past few hours, I think its back to normal

Edited December 27, 2024 by Kaitetsu

[Washuyama 639]

Getting a 404 error for me now...

[Yamanashi 3,825]

working for me now

[Sumo Menko Man 13]

It was up an hour or so ago and now back to a 404 error.  There is still hope that the issue will clear itself up soon!

[Akinomaki 40,281]

Updated to Hatsu now

[Washuyama 639]

....and back to the 404 error after working last night.

[Sumo Menko Man 13]

I've noticed over the years that I'll be using Sumo Reference and it will randomly give me the 404 error which takes a few hours to clear up.  It seems unstable with the browser I am using or the way I am using Sumo Reference.  It is like the server gets tripped pretty easily.

[Asashosakari 19,213]

We currently have Asahifuji's toshiyori career as this:

Time	Kabu Name	Holder	Heya	Ichimon	Owner
15.01.1992 (KA) - 25.04.1993 (KT)	5-year-Toshiyori Asahifuji Seiya	Y Asahifuji Seiya	Oshima	Tatsunami
26.04.1993 (KT) - 29.11.2007 (KC)	Ajigawa[4] Seiya	Y Asahifuji Seiya	Ajigawa	Tatsunami
30.11.2007 (KC) -	Isegahama[9] Seiya	Y Asahifuji Seiya	Isegahama	Tatsunami

As Ajigawa-beya shisho he succeeded Mutsuarashi, who had to leave sumo early due to chronic health issues. However, Mutsuarashi's ja.wiki article (in footnote 2) states that he had made his intentions known the year before already, and that Asahifuji had consequently moved from Oshima to Ajigawa as affiliated oyakata to prepare for the takeover, specifically "after Aki 1992". Asahifuji's article implies the same but without mentioning any specific timing for the move.

I note from ja.wiki that Asahifuji also had his retirement ceremony "after Aki 1992", so he was almost definitely still with Oshima-beya for that. According to this Kyodo image licensing website, the intai-zumo took place on October 3rd, 1992.

Beyond that, I've been unsuccessful in finding an exact date for Asahifuji's transfer, assuming the ja.wiki claim about it is in fact accurate to begin with.

[Jakusotsu 5,913]

503 for several hours now. I'm starting to worry for the upcoming basho.

[Sumo Spiffy 550]

It's been minimum 24 hours at this point. It's close to noon Wednesday, I used it on Monday, and it didn't work at all Tuesday. I am also concerned, and wondering how long it would take to learn the skills required to create a functional backup.

[stigetakakawa 0]

Would be nice if Doitsuyama or who is trying to run the site informed here what is going on.

I know that best rule is aviate-navigate-communicate, but still...

[Kaitetsu 289]

I would be more than happy to financially support (hopefully alongside others) a better server, if this is the problem after all... but not knowing what the problem is is even worse

[Sumo Spiffy 550]

2 hours ago, Kaitetsu said:

I would be more than happy to financially support (hopefully alongside others) a better server, if this is the problem after all... but not knowing what the problem is is even worse

I don't know if Squarespace supports everything the database runs on, but if it did I should theoretically be able to use my site for it. I just don't know how to set it up.

Edit: Alright, Squarespace doesn't support it. Wix does, and there are other options, but nothing that can be done in the short term.

Edited January 8 by Sumo Spiffy

[Asashosakari 19,213]

DB's up.

[Gernobono 463]

5 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

DB's up.

and down for me

[Yamanashi 3,825]

Good news: error has changed from 503 to 404.  As the old Math joke goes, "well, we know how to solve it from this point."

[Kaitetsu 289]

Back up, so truly it is back to its usual antics, but perhaps the 503 one will also become part of the normal server down shenanigans

[mt fuji 976]

On 08/01/2025 at 12:53, Sumo Spiffy said:

I don't know if Squarespace supports everything the database runs on, but if it did I should theoretically be able to use my site for it. I just don't know how to set it up.

Edit: Alright, Squarespace doesn't support it. Wix does, and there are other options, but nothing that can be done in the short term.

Since they're using ASP.NET and building out webpages on the server based on input URL parameters, I haven't been able to find a way to access the site database without using the website - that's a good thing! I would guess that they're probably using some relational database with a bunch of different tables. It would be possible, but not easy, to replicate it with a lot of web scraping and extensive tinkering to try to guess the database schema. When it works, it handles a lot of data very quickly, which is impressive and that would be another hard thing to tackle. All of that to say that I think you'd need something more substantial than a site builder like Wix to make a new version!

[Sumo Spiffy 550]

13 hours ago, mt fuji said:

Since they're using ASP.NET and building out webpages on the server based on input URL parameters, I haven't been able to find a way to access the site database without using the website - that's a good thing! I would guess that they're probably using some relational database with a bunch of different tables. It would be possible, but not easy, to replicate it with a lot of web scraping and extensive tinkering to try to guess the database schema. When it works, it handles a lot of data very quickly, which is impressive and that would be another hard thing to tackle. All of that to say that I think you'd need something more substantial than a site builder like Wix to make a new version!

I can't even contemplate putting it together myself. It was more like, the site is there for the good of the community, and the offer would be to essentially take the database as-is and host it elsewhere as a backup. In other words, with the blessings of the creators, not trying to work around them. 

But the more I look into it, the more it seems apparent I'm in over my head. I'm just gonna go keep learning Python and trying to make a game.