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  Otokonoyama said:
  Kotoviki said:
I have to say Otokonoyama is so right...So this professor may know nothing of what he's writing about just elaborating on things he's heard or read that may or may not even be reliable.

Nailed it! (I am not worthy...)

  Kotoviki said:
AND as Doreen says he may also have written that article in English for a foreign audience.

Though it is shameful that he would write such a thing without clear evidence... regarding his profession and all. People in Japan really respect professors!

Lost it! (Shaking head...) Let's go back and see who wrote what:

  Orion said:
One may charitably assume that some of the problems of the professor's piece were caused by a bad translation of an article originally written in Japanese. The title tells it all: 'Sumos' and the yakuza.

Orion

  Otokonoyama said:
I strongly suspect the article was written in English by the author himself, and intended for a foreign audience.

Sorry about that!!!! (Shaking head...) I get lost with all the quotes... (Shaking head...) apologies all around... :-D (Clapping wildly...) (On the banzuke...)

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MB on Hakuho's greatness.

I must have missed the news that Kaio is to retire in November. (Perhaps something got lost in the editing?)

I'm also not convinced that the current crop of ozeki is the best for 10 years. What about Chiyotaikai, Kaio and Tochiazuma circa 2004?

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  ryafuji said:
MB on Hakuho's greatness.

I must have missed the news that Kaio is to retire in November. (Perhaps something got lost in the editing?)

I'm also not convinced that the current crop of ozeki is the best for 10 years. What about Chiyotaikai, Kaio and Tochiazuma circa 2004?

MB might actually be correct on both accounts as the second is a judgement call and the first will be settled soon. But there is a really big blunder as he attributed the "record number of wins per year" to Asashoryu. He is correct with the record number of 86, but that was the number of Hakuho's wins in 2009 while Asashoryu's best was 84 wins in 2005.

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I still think it highly unlikely that Kaio will retire after a tournament in which he will be in no danger of losing his ozeki rank.

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  ryafuji said:
I still think it highly unlikely that Kaio will retire after a tournament in which he will be in no danger of losing his ozeki rank.

Yes, because I would I wouldn't expect it of him, it would be a nice touch for him to pull off a kachikoshi in Fukuoka, then retire with some class when he is not kadoban. However, chances are he won't get his kachikoshi.

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  Asanomeshi said:
However, chances are he won't get his kachikoshi.

No doubt based on his recent results which are... wait... nine kachi-koshi and a 6-5-4 in the last ten basho. Somehow I'm thinking he's more likely to get a kachi-koshi than not...

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When it comes to Kaio - NO IDEA.

I was sure he would retire some....3 years ago or so.

Always the same game "we hope he can make it to Fukuoka" - as if he would definetly retire there.

And then he went on "

" (What's Brian doing there? ) or not - we will never know. The way this worked for years, it could as well go on. One day it will end - The Kyokai still needs him as one of, or even THE most popular Japanese Rikishi. No Kaio, less fans. Maybe they could even close down Fukuoka after his Intai....

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  ilovesumo said:
When it comes to Kaio - NO IDEA.

You need to add 'Fukuoka basho' into the equation. I just had a quick scan of Doitsubase, and the last time that Kaio had an MK in Fukuoka (excluding two recentish November bashos, when he pulled out early in the first week) was back in 1990, when he went 3-4 in Makushita. So by those stats, expect either an early withdrawal, or Kaio once again starting a new year in ozumo, meaning that the 'When will Kaio retire poll?' can be given yet another airing....

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You are right, I was being lazy. It just "seems" like Kaio goes kadoban a lot. My bad, I should've have looked at his record more closely before I shoot off at the mouth. He probably WILL get his kachkoshi, but I do indeed hope he ends on that note. It is long past time good ole Kaio had his swan song.

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  Asanomeshi said:
You are right, I was being lazy. It just "seems" like Kaio goes kadoban a lot. My bad, I should've have looked at his record more closely before I shoot off at the mouth. He probably WILL get his kachkoshi, but I do indeed hope he ends on that note. It is long past time good ole Kaio had his swan song.

And why is this?

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Turning over a new leaf / Expelled Russian rikishi resurfaces on Fla. gridiron with lofty goal

John Gunning / Special to The Daily Yomiuri

In the summer of 2008, as the global economy approached meltdown, the sumo career of Soslan Aleksandrovich Gagloev, formerly known as Wakanoho, met a similarly spectacular and self-inflicted end.

Two years later, both are tentatively on the road to recovery...

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/sports/T101110002731.htm

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