Rocks 1,809 Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Benihana said: Yes, but are all getty images made in the USA? The sliding windows we see here, have never been a thing here in germany (because they are utterly stupid), not even in buildings made especially for americans, i.e. in garrisons. https://timelineimages.sueddeutsche.de/sumoringer_00212013 The picture was published in vol. 7 of a vastly popular sports/adventure/fun paper for kids, called "Der heitere Fridolin" (~The Merry Fridolin). That's why it is in a german archive. It's actually available as a reprint since a month. Amazon I'm tempted, but not tempted enough to pay €20,- for settling an internet argument in my favour. Oh, I don't know if it is actually Germany in the picture. Even if it is from a German newspaper originally it could be international news from the time and not in Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,145 Posted December 20, 2018 Article explaining the new anti-violence rules much better than my feeble attempt.. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 384 Posted December 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Article explaining the new anti-violence rules much better than my feeble attempt.. -"But the association sought to draw a distinction between excessive force and ordinary disciplining, as well as clashes among wrestlers during practice. “Humans are creatures of emotion. Sometimes skirmishes are going to break out. It doesn’t mean someone should automatically be reported for hitting,” JSA director Shibatayama said."- Does anyone else read this as close to "keep on doing as you're doing, just don't do it in public such that we must be seen to do something"? Not that that would be a surprising thing, just funny to see as one of the main quotes in the article (though something may well have been lost in the translation). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Tochinofuji said: -"But the association sought to draw a distinction between excessive force and ordinary disciplining, as well as clashes among wrestlers during practice. “Humans are creatures of emotion. Sometimes skirmishes are going to break out. It doesn’t mean someone should automatically be reported for hitting,” JSA director Shibatayama said."- Does anyone else read this as close to "keep on doing as you're doing, just don't do it in public such that we must be seen to do something"? Not that that would be a surprising thing, just funny to see as one of the main quotes in the article (though something may well have been lost in the translation). I think it’s reasonable to draw a distinction between top-down violence/bullying and the sort of mutual aggression that spills over from time to time. Most adults are capable of working through the latter. In a competitive and close-knit environment, especially one like a sumo stable where the guys live on top of each other all day, every day, there will sometimes be tensions that escalate into a minor skirmish. Adults should be left to resolve those kinds of problems themselves. Indeed, learning to is an important part of growing up. If the NSK steps in every time a frustrated rikishi slaps a peer during a particularly rough training session, then the rikishi will be forever little boys being looked after by nanny (and rikishi are sheltered enough as it is). What can’t be tolerated is someone abusing their seniority to inflict suffering on a subordinate. That’s a different matter and the one that really needs addressing. Edited December 20, 2018 by Eikokurai 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 384 Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Eikokurai said: I think it’s reasonable to draw a distinction between top-down violence/bullying and the sort of mutual aggression that spills over from time to time. Most adults are capable of working through the latter. In a competitive and close-knit environment, especially one like a sumo stable where the guys live on top of each other all day, every day, there will sometimes be tensions that escalate into a minor skirmish. Adults should be left to resolve those kinds of problems themselves. Indeed, learning to is an important part of growing up. If the NSK steps in every time a frustrated rikishi slaps a peer during a particularly rough training session, then the rikishi will be forever little boys being looked after by nanny (and rikishi are sheltered enough as it is). What can’t be tolerated is someone abusing their seniority to inflict suffering on a subordinate. That’s a different matter and the one that really needs addressing. I certainly agree with your points here, especially with regard to things getting heated during practice. It happens in any contact sport or martial art, and as you say can be dealt with quite readily. To my mind, it was more the idea of "ordinary disciplining" being the problematic area rather than "clashes among wrestlers during practice." I appreciate my mind is a bit overly legalistic and parsing things a bit finely, but it seems to add an interesting element of discretion within a heya as to what constitutes "ordinary disciplining" versus bullying/violence, which is part of what has gotten us here in the first place. Just struck me as potentially an interesting wrinkle, which may just be me misunderstanding what Shibatayama-oyakata meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itchyknee 60 Posted December 22, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 04:31, Otokonoyama said: Are lobsters cultural, societal, or political? Asking for a friend. Your answer must include melted Kerrygold or it will be disqualified. They're intimate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lobster And here's your Kerrygold: Quote Filming took place in Dublin, Ireland, which represents "The City" in the film, and also at locations in and around County Kerry, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted December 23, 2018 That Colin Farrell. He's in everything these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,145 Posted December 25, 2018 Japan Times on Sumo in 2018 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted December 26, 2018 Sumo’s young guns ready to make big impact in 2019 Quote Last December, when looking ahead to 2018, I wrote that this would be the year when a new generation of sumo talent would rise to glory. It’s a prediction that came true for the most part, with three rikishi winning their first Emperor’s Cup during the past 12 months. While no one can accuse Tochinoshin of being a young gun, Mitakeumi and Takakeisho are certainly at the vanguard of the new wave... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2018/12/26/sumo/sumos-young-guns-ready-make-big-impact-2019/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted December 28, 2018 2018 -- Looking back on a year of sumo Quote It's been another year of powerful performances and sell-out crowds in sumo arenas across Japan. A lot of things happened in 2018 both inside and outside of the ring. Let's take look back at how things played out, and also some of the setbacks the sport had to overcome... https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/nhknewsline/backstories/ayearofsumo/ 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 2, 2019 Heisei Era a bumpy ride for Japan's media organizations Quote The media is busy assessing the Heisei Era as it comes to a close. Although not as dramatic as the Showa Era, it’s been a bumpy ride. Japan still hasn’t gotten the hang of this democracy thing, and an engaged, objective press is essential to a functioning democracy. As the following rundown illustrates, however, the jury is still out as to whether Japan’s press meets those criteria. Media person of the year: Takanohana It’s appropriate that one of the defining personalities of the Heisei Era would bow out during its last full calendar year... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/29/national/media-national/heisei-era-bumpy-ride-japans-media-organizations/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,145 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) John on Sumo scandals from a different angle and newcomer Ryuuko. Edited January 2, 2019 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,145 Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Gunning said: Your link just redirects back to this thread. Here's the correct one oops.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 10, 2019 Two more from John Gunning: Hakuho, rivals seeking to taste success in opening tournament of new season In-arena experience provides thrills for fans 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted January 11, 2019 Miki-san touts Onosho in the latest instalment of Sumo ABC (i.e., #92). http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0005454680 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 13, 2019 Sumo 101: Becoming a rikishi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,847 Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Otokonoyama said: Sumo 101: Becoming a rikishi Well, we should be hearing from our old friend Oushimaru1138. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 14, 2019 Kisenosato's career in peril after 2nd straight loss Quote Kisenosato inched closer to the professional precipice with his second straight loss of the New Year Grand Sumo Tournament on Monday. The 32-year-old yokozuna, who has been tasked with wrestling well after two injury-plagued years, attacked huge Mongolian Ichinojo (2-0) from the get-go, but never looked a threat. The 226-kilogram No. 1 maegashira absorbed the brunt of Kisenosato's charge before slapping the embattled grand champion to the sandy surface. Kisenosato pulled out of November's Kyushu tourney after four-straight losses and has only finished one of the previous 10 grand tournaments... https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190114/p2g/00m/0sp/081000c 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 15, 2019 Embattled Kisenosato to keep going: stablemaster Quote Kisenosato's stablemaster said Monday that the yokozuna, despite equaling the record for the worst losing streak by a grand champion, will compete on Day 3 of the current New Year Grand Sumo Tournament. Asked by reporters if the 32-year-old yokozuna would fight on Tuesday, stablemaster Tagonoura answered, "Yes, of course. That is the plan." "His sumo is disjointed, but that's fixable," he said... https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190115/p2g/00m/0sp/005000c 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 15, 2019 Sumo 101: Sanyaku Quote Sanyaku is the collective noun for the three ranks below yokozuna. In reality though, ozeki is rarely included when the term is used, with the vast majority of incidences referring only to komusubi and sekiwake. Unlike sumo’s top two ranks, there is no special criteria for promotion to sanyaku. A simple winning record as the No. 1 or 2 maegashira is often all that is required... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/14/sumo/sumo-101-sanyaku/ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 15, 2019 Sumo 101: Banzuke Quote All professional sumo wrestlers are listed on a 58×44 cm sheet of paper that is released about two weeks before the start of each tournament. For the ongoing basho that amounts to 636 men ranked in order from yokozuna Kisenosato at the top all the way down to 41 year old Daigonishiki at jonokuchi 27. Watai, who at 16 is a full quarter-century younger than Daigonishiki, is also at jonokuchi 27 but the east side of the banzuke is considered higher than the west... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/15/sumo/sumo-101-banzuke/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 16, 2019 Despite injuries, Kisenosato embodied rikishi ideals Quote Kisenosato’s retirement, while both inevitable and expected, casts a pall over the ongoing tournament. The veteran yokozuna has been one of sumo’s most popular wrestlers over the past decade and a half. Initially a bright young talent whose rapid rise was catnip to a Japanese public that idolizes teenage sporting heroes, Kisenosato came to embody the phrase “fall seven times and stand up eight” in the latter part of his career... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/16/sumo/despite-injuries-kisenosato-embodied-rikishi-ideals/#.XD8l_GQzZz8 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 18, 2019 Sumo 101: Retirement ceremonies Quote Now that Kisenosato has retired, one of the first orders of business for him will be arranging a retirement ceremony. Virtually all wrestlers end their career with a dampatsu-shiki (hair-cutting ceremony) but for lower-ranked wrestlers it’s normally just part of their stable’s regular end-of-tournament party. For high-ranking or famous rikishi, however, so many people want to be involved and bid farewell that it necessitates the hiring of hotel function rooms or even Ryogoku Kokugikan itself... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/17/sumo/sumo-101-retirement-ceremonies/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted January 18, 2019 Sumo 101: A wrestler's typical tournament day Quote The six annual honbasho (tournaments) are the fulcrum around which the sumo world turns. Ninety days a year sumo wrestlers participate in events whose outcome determines not only how high or low they will be ranked but also what clothes they can wear, whether or not they receive a salary, and their level of personal freedom. Needless to say, rikishi put everything they have into winning every bout as a result... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/18/sumo/sumo-101-wrestlers-typical-tournament-day/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,847 Posted January 19, 2019 RE: A wrestler's typical tournament day A great article; it helps explain to me how the "in n' out" in the dressing rooms works during the day. One quibble: the editor printed "eight days" for sub-sekitori rikishi; shouldn't that be "seven days"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
