Ganzohnesushi 515 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd1w Tenroku Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd109E Shijima, please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiowaka 10 Posted May 9, 2009 For me : Shijima (Jd109e) Thanks ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekihiryu 51 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd43W Mikitensho (sorry for the bad advice about him last basho fukurou! - he was playing possum at keiko!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Susanoo 382 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd55w Aoki Yoroshiku! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imumaru 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd55w Aoki, Thanks, Imumaru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hironoumi 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd113w Otsukuba,please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odoriou 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Jd109w Kasachikara (Blushing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted May 9, 2009 A bandwagon-jumping selection of Jd1w Tenroku, please. (Blushing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GONZABUROW 0 Posted May 9, 2009 jd1e Satsumariki GONZABUROW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,826 Posted May 10, 2009 Scoreboard for Natsu Basho: Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing 1. Exil** Notoazuma Sd93e 0-0 2. GONZABUROW*** Satsumariki Jd1e 0-0 3. Randomitsuki*** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 4. Azumashida*** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 5. Ganzohnesushi*** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 6. Vikanohara*** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 7. Doitsuyama*** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 8. crall*** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 9. Golynohana** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 10. Asashosakari** Tenroku Jd1w 0-0 11. Itachi* Isamizuki Jd16w 0-0 12. Harry*** Kinunonami Jd36w 0-0 13. sekihiryu*** Mikitensho Jd43w 0-0 14. Mmikasazuma*** Aoki Jd55w 0-0 15. Susanoo*** Aoki Jd55w 0-0 16. Imumaru* Aoki Jd55w 0-0 17. Terarno* Kamakari/Ryushonami Jd62e/Jd66e 0-0/0-0 18. Takanorappa*** DNP (1st) Jd69w N/A 19. Sashohitowa** Hisachikara Jd75w 0-0 20. Holleshoryu** Kotofubuki/Matsubayama Jd84e/Jd85e 0-0/0-0 21. Gusoyama*** Azumaryu Jd90e 0-0 22. Manekineko*** Azumaryu Jd90e 0-0 23. Andoreasu*** Azumaryu Jd90e 0-0 24. Charlemagne*** DNP (1st) Jd90e N/A 25. yamaneko*** Takanoiwa Jd92e 0-0 26. Fatakiyama** Takanoiwa Jd92e 0-0 27. ilovetochinoshin*** Kainofuji Jd92w 0-0 28. Fay*** Suzuki Jd94e 0-0 29. Hidariashiyama*** Kojima Jd102e 0-0 30. Kachitakai*** Kojima Jd102e 0-0 31. Fukurou*** Shijima Jd109e 0-0 32. Kaiowaka*** Shijima Jd109e 0-0 33. Odoriou*** Kasachikara Jd109w 0-0 34. Jejima*** DNP (1st) Jd109e N/A 35. Asafan*** Takeda Jd111e 0-0 36. ragerkawa*** Takeda Jd111e 0-0 37. charliki** Takeda Jd111e 0-0 38. Jakusotsu*** Kotonishikawa Jd111w 0-0 39. Hironoumi*** Otsukuba Jd113w 0-0 40. Fujisan** Otsukuba Jd113w 0-0 41. Tamanaogijima*** Obamaumi Jk6w 0-0 42. Profomisakari** Honda/Kotowatanabe Jk15w/Jk17w 0-0/0-0 43. Zenjimoto* Honda/Kiya Jk15w/Jk16e 0-0/0-0 44. Oshirokita*** Sakaguchi Jk19e 0-0 45. Pikenoyama*** Uchida Jk22w 0-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,826 Posted May 15, 2009 Standings after day 6: Hey, this is the freak wave. Only in so far as it is without major upsets until now. But then again, the very fact that Aoki, Azumaryu, and Honda already picked a first loss is somewhat surprising to me. Exil got a headstart with a very wise Notoazuma pick. We are talking about Notoazuma, not Oazuma. He never was on my talent radar, but given my impeccable lower division strength ratings, he should be a force to be reckoned with in low Sandanme (but still shouldn't be as good a pick on paper as Kawashita or Tenroku). Speaking of Tenroku, he is undefeated as well, and so a large bandwagon is on Exil's heels (ouch). Notoazuma is an obvious candidate for most brilliant pick, but Oshirokita's Sakaguchi is a close contender. I do not follow the ama / pre-ozumo circuit close enough, so I would always have a hard time to pick the best guy from the Haru pack. Was Sakaguchi more successful than, say, Honda, before entering mae-zumo? Or what else did make Oshirokita pick such a splendid choice? Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing 1. Exil** Notoazuma Sd93e 3-0 2. GONZABUROW*** Satsumariki Jd1e 2-1 3. Randomitsuki*** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 4. Azumashida*** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 5. Ganzohnesushi*** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 6. Vikanohara*** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 7. Doitsuyama*** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 8. crall*** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 9. Golynohana** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 10. Asashosakari** Tenroku Jd1w 3-0 11. Itachi* Isamizuki Jd16w 1-2 12. Harry*** Kinunonami Jd36w 0-3 13. sekihiryu*** Mikitensho Jd43w 2-1 14. Mmikasazuma*** Aoki Jd55w 2-1 15. Susanoo*** Aoki Jd55w 2-1 16. Imumaru* Aoki Jd55w 2-1 17. Terarno* Kamakari/Ryushonami Jd62e/Jd66e 1-2/0-3 18. Takanorappa*** DNP (1st) Jd69w N/A 19. Sashohitowa** Hisachikara Jd75w 2-1 20. Holleshoryu** Kotofubuki/Matsubayama Jd84e/Jd85e 1-2/2-1 21. Gusoyama*** Azumaryu Jd90e 2-1 22. Manekineko*** Azumaryu Jd90e 2-1 23. Andoreasu*** Azumaryu Jd90e 2-1 24. Charlemagne*** DNP (1st) Jd90e N/A 25. yamaneko*** Takanoiwa Jd92e 3-0 26. Fatakiyama** Takanoiwa Jd92e 3-0 27. ilovetochinoshin*** Kainofuji Jd92w 1-2 28. Fay*** Suzuki Jd94e 0-0-3 29. Hidariashiyama*** Kojima Jd102e 2-1 30. Kachitakai*** Kojima Jd102e 2-1 31. Fukurou*** Shijima Jd109e 2-1 32. Kaiowaka*** Shijima Jd109e 2-1 33. Odoriou*** Kasachikara Jd109w 0-3 34. Jejima*** DNP (1st) Jd109e N/A 35. Asafan*** Takeda Jd111e 2-1 36. ragerkawa*** Takeda Jd111e 2-1 37. charliki** Takeda Jd111e 2-1 38. Jakusotsu*** Kotonishikawa Jd111w 0-3 39. Hironoumi*** Otsukuba Jd113w 2-1 40. Fujisan** Otsukuba Jd113w 2-1 41. Tamanaogijima*** Obamaumi Jk6w 2-1 42. Profomisakari** Honda/Kotowatanabe Jk15w/Jk17w 2-1/1-2 43. Zenjimoto* Honda/Kiya Jk15w/Jk16e 2-1/1-2 44. Oshirokita*** Sakaguchi Jk19e 3-0 45. Pikenoyama*** Uchida Jk22w 2-1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,319 Posted May 15, 2009 Sakaguchi's a college grad, and Honda is 16 years old. I wouldn't dare to predict that Sakaguchi will actually have the better career, but for their first basho that's a pretty easy call IMO. (Shockingly, Honda leads 9-8 in PTYW picks...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted May 16, 2009 Sakaguchi's a college grad, and Honda is 16 years old. I wouldn't dare to predict that Sakaguchi will actually have the better career, but for their first basho that's a pretty easy call IMO. (Shockingly, Honda leads 9-8 in PTYW picks...) Sakaguchi was my choice to have the best record as a shindeshi as well for that reason. A good maezumo record is just one indicator of potential success in the first basho. Size and maturity are the others. Some knowledge of the new entrants' pre-ozumo career would be nice too but I usually don't go that far. If they're only 16 or so then I figure they haven't had as much experience at whatever level of sumo as the new guy who's a few years older so at the same size and maezumo record, I'll always go for the older guy. Does anyone think that the heya or the shushin data are useful? There must be heya with better or worse track records of finding good talent and developing it. Are there prefectures that have a higher proportion of successful rikishi as a percentage of their participants? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 188 Posted May 16, 2009 Was Sakaguchi more successful than, say, Honda, before entering mae-zumo? Or what else did make Oshirokita pick such a splendid choice?44. Oshirokita*** Sakaguchi Jk19e 3-0 As Asashosakari and Itachi (both of whom are ozeki in PTYW game, so have good analysis of lower division rikishi) have said, Sakaguchi's age was the tipping factor. Both Honda & Sakaguchi were 3-0 in maezumo, so the difference of maturity and coordination are more likely to give the edge to the older newbie, at least for their first basho. Of course, if Sakaguchi should not get 7 wins (or at the very least 6, I will be disappointed in my pick). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,826 Posted May 19, 2009 Standings after day 10: After day 6 I ventured the guess that Tenroku might be a better pick than Notoazuma. In a basho where all my lower division predictions have gone awry, I was highly interested in day 10, as these two actually met on the dohyo. And in fact, Tenroku has won, so at the moment his support crew (led by yours truly) enjoys first place. Of course, it is entirely possible that both Notoazuma and Tenroku finish with the same record, so we'll see. Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing 1. Exil** Notoazuma Sd93e 4-1 2. GONZABUROW*** Satsumariki Jd1e 3-2 3. Randomitsuki*** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 4. Azumashida*** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 5. Ganzohnesushi*** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 6. Vikanohara*** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 7. Doitsuyama*** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 8. crall*** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 9. Golynohana** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 10. Asashosakari** Tenroku Jd1w 5-0 11. Itachi* Isamizuki Jd16w 2-3 12. Harry*** Kinunonami Jd36w 1-4 13. sekihiryu*** Mikitensho Jd43w 4-1 14. Mmikasazuma*** Aoki Jd55w 4-1 15. Susanoo*** Aoki Jd55w 4-1 16. Imumaru* Aoki Jd55w 4-1 17. Terarno* Kamakari/Ryushonami Jd62e/Jd66e 3-2/1-4 18. Takanorappa*** DNP (1st) Jd69w N/A 19. Sashohitowa** Hisachikara Jd75w 3-2 20. Holleshoryu** Kotofubuki/Matsubayama Jd84e/Jd85e 2-3/3-2 21. Gusoyama*** Azumaryu Jd90e 4-1 22. Manekineko*** Azumaryu Jd90e 4-1 23. Andoreasu*** Azumaryu Jd90e 4-1 24. Charlemagne*** DNP (1st) Jd90e N/A 25. yamaneko*** Takanoiwa Jd92e 5-0 26. Fatakiyama** Takanoiwa Jd92e 5-0 27. ilovetochinoshin*** Kainofuji Jd92w 3-2 28. Fay*** Suzuki Jd94e 0-0-5 29. Hidariashiyama*** Kojima Jd102e 4-1 30. Kachitakai*** Kojima Jd102e 4-1 31. Fukurou*** Shijima Jd109e 3-2 32. Kaiowaka*** Shijima Jd109e 3-2 33. Odoriou*** Kasachikara Jd109w 0-5 34. Jejima*** DNP (1st) Jd109e N/A 35. Asafan*** Takeda Jd111e 3-2 36. ragerkawa*** Takeda Jd111e 3-2 37. charliki** Takeda Jd111e 3-2 38. Jakusotsu*** Kotonishikawa Jd111w 2-3 39. Hironoumi*** Otsukuba Jd113w 2-3 40. Fujisan** Otsukuba Jd113w 2-3 41. Tamanaogijima*** Obamaumi Jk6w 3-2 42. Profomisakari** Honda/Kotowatanabe Jk15w/Jk17w 4-1/2-3 43. Zenjimoto* Honda/Kiya Jk15w/Jk16e 4-1/3-2 44. Oshirokita*** Sakaguchi Jk19e 5-0 45. Pikenoyama*** Uchida Jk22w 3-2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
