Asameshimae 220 Posted September 30, 2009 Regardless of arguments about the legitimacy of a number of Ozeki wins, Kaio continues breaking records. He will pass up Takamiyama for most top division tournaments when he does Kyushu. And if he could manage to squeak out 10 wins (is that too much to ask of an Ozeki?), he would pass up Kitanoumi and Chiyonofuji to take most top division wins ever. Maybe being back home will inspire him to achieve this as well. Knowing Kaio, it will take him two tournaments... I'll be rooting for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted September 30, 2009 And of course he's due to reach 100 makuuchi basho in March. I'm also curious to see if he can get to 1000 career victories. I didn't think anyone other than Chiyonofuji could accomplish that feat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted September 30, 2009 I can see the 100 basho, nice round number. I am less optomistic about the 1000 victories. Maybe I am a pessimist, or maybe I can't think that far into the future... (Funny, I changed my avatar, but the change has not "set"...herm...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted September 30, 2009 It will probably take him until July, assuming he continues on his slow and steady 8-7 way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted September 30, 2009 And of course he's due to reach 100 makuuchi basho in March. I'm also curious to see if he can get to 1000 career victories. I didn't think anyone other than Chiyonofuji could accomplish that feat. Don't forget he is only 27 yusho from passing Chiyonofuji in another category. Can he do it? Oh the suspense. Stranger things have happened! Oh wait, no they haven't.. (Sign of approval...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) Don't forget he is only 27 yusho from passing Chiyonofuji in another category. Can he do it? Oh the suspense. Hey, five is still pretty impressive. More than any other non-yokozuna. That's another record. Edited September 30, 2009 by ryafuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted September 30, 2009 Don't forget he is only 27 yusho from passing Chiyonofuji in another category. Can he do it? Oh the suspense. Hey, five is still pretty impressive. More than any other non-yokozuna. That's another record. Ha! That IS something! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) Hey, five is still pretty impressive. More than any other non-yokozuna. That's another record. I looked it up and went back to the as far back as when the 1909 yusho system was put in place and Kaio is 2 yusho ahead of any non-yokozuna winners below him (assuming I didn't miss anyone) Kaio 5 Chiyotaikai 3 Konishiki 3 Shimizugawa 3 Tochiazuma 3 Hokutenyu 2 Kotonishiki 2 Kaiketsu 2 Kotokaze 2 Takanohana the first 2 Toyokuni 2 interesting stuff... Edited September 30, 2009 by Asanomeshi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 641 Posted September 30, 2009 Ozeki Wakashimazu has 2 as well (one of those being of the zensho variety.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted September 30, 2009 Ozeki Wakashimazu has 2 as well (one of those being of the zensho variety.) I remember skimming past his name. I'm gonna add him, b/c I might refer back to this post later. Kaio 5 Chiyotaikai 3 Konishiki 3 Shimizugawa 3 Tochiazuma 3 Hokutenyu 2 Kotonishiki 2 Kaiketsu 2 Kotokaze 2 Takanohana the first 2 Toyokuni 2 Wakashimazu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,192 Posted September 30, 2009 Ozeki Wakashimazu has 2 as well (one of those being of the zensho variety.) I remember skimming past his name. I'm gonna add him, b/c I might refer back to this post later. Kaio 5 Chiyotaikai 3 Konishiki 3 Shimizugawa 3 Tochiazuma 3 Hokutenyu 2 Kotonishiki 2 Kaiketsu 2 Kotokaze 2 Takanohana the first 2 Toyokuni 2 Wakashimazu 2 You can take this query as a base for your table. There is the mental exercise to remove all rikishi who later became yokozuna since I have no career high rank filter... there also are Masuiyama and Takanonami with two yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saruwatari 0 Posted September 30, 2009 Ozeki Wakashimazu has 2 as well (one of those being of the zensho variety.) I remember skimming past his name. I'm gonna add him, b/c I might refer back to this post later. Kaio 5 Chiyotaikai 3 Konishiki 3 Shimizugawa 3 Tochiazuma 3 Hokutenyu 2 Kotonishiki 2 Kaiketsu 2 Kotokaze 2 Takanohana the first 2 Toyokuni 2 Wakashimazu 2 You can take this query as a base for your table. There is the mental exercise to remove all rikishi who later became yokozuna since I have no career high rank filter... there also are Masuiyama and Takanonami with two yusho. Actually, I don't think they should be removed from the query, as Kaio could also become Yokozuna. He will have the record if he retires as an Ozeki (or lower). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 641 Posted October 1, 2009 ...as Kaio could also become Yokozuna. Are you on some medication we should know about? ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted October 1, 2009 ...as Kaio could also become Yokozuna. Are you on some medication we should know about? ;-) Well, logistically, theoretically and logically he's in the right place to do just that. Then again, so is Taikai, Osh, HF and Mitsuki. They're all Ozeki, and could all become Yokozuna, so he's right. So, could it happen? Yes. Will it happen? I hesitate to say NO outright, because stranger things have occurred. Asa's yusho in Jan is such an event. Osh's yusho last year and Asa's win last week are close seconds. Hak, having one hell of a year with only 2 yushos to show for it is third. All Kaio really needs is to get on a run, and for the key opponents to come up lame, or injured, or have a meteorite land on them. Never discount the injury factor. Still, I don't know if the bookmakers in Vegas place numbers on things like this, but it would be an interesting wager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
