ilovesumo 12 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) So Obama gets it... http://nobelprize.org/ He did a piece of what he promised... kinda early for an award (?) PEACE is a noble Nobel wish Will the prize help him to reach his goals? Edited October 9, 2009 by ilovesumo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokkenaiyama 81 Posted October 9, 2009 Mr. D, did you hack ilovesumo's account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,285 Posted October 9, 2009 Mr. D, did you hack ilovesumo's account? No, I'm not even me. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barang 0 Posted October 9, 2009 Heaven shakes. Maybe they should give next one for Stalin in posthumously. Obama has done nothing for peace except some lousy speeches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 467 Posted October 9, 2009 Obama has done nothing for peace except some lousy speeches. for the nobelprize comittee this is more for peace than other human being did over the last year (Sign of approval...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted October 9, 2009 Please read the forum rules and keep the political Bullshit off of here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 467 Posted October 9, 2009 Please read the forum rules and keep the political Bullshit off of here. i guess it is questionable to call the nobelprize politics and if it is againt the rules, why not delete or at least close the thread instead of using foul language? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted October 9, 2009 Please read the forum rules and keep the political Bullshit off of here. i guess it is questionable to call the nobelprize politics and if it is againt the rules, why not delete or at least close the thread instead of using foul language? Sorry, lost my temper... been having a bad day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 208 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Awards are generally overrated. I read about it on the main page of my E-Mail provider and I had to smile because the following two headlines were put into one section: 1. "Obama recieves Nobel Peace Prize" 2. " USA designes superbomb for a possible attack on Iraq" Don't get me wrong, I'm not spreading a political view here. But if someone talks about it, I'll automatically put both chunks together (thanks to my short term memory (In jonokuchi...)). But seriously: What are the criteria for "measuring" peace? I can understand that a chemist gets honoured for contributing new formulas or developing a "chemical method" that hasn't been around before. The Peace award seems to be based on subjectivty more than any other of the current ones. I hope they won't ignore me if they establish a Nobel Prize for animal welfare someday. ;-) Edited October 9, 2009 by Raishu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted October 10, 2009 Moderator Notice This is a topic liable to derail into political waters very easily, so please thread carefully and retain politeness at all times. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted October 10, 2009 Moderator Notice This is a topic liable to derail into political waters very easily, so please thread carefully and retain politeness at all times. Thank you. Perhaps the Nobel committee is trying to send out a message that "this is on the right track". But let us remember, people, that this is a committee of sincere but not all-knowing human beings. They habitually give the Literature Prize to some worthy person we've never heard of, and stay clear of people who have no difficulty in selling their writings. (And who were the PP winners a few years ago, who were cartooned as saying in effect "Hey, all we have to do is stop fighting each other and bingo...!") Actually I can't think of a better candidate for now. Can you? Orion the non-political (professionally - it is written into one of my work contracts) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,451 Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) And who were the PP winners a few years ago, who were cartooned as saying in effect "Hey, all we have to do is stop fighting each other and bingo...!" Arafat/Peres/Rabin in 1994? That one was certainly an endless source of both amusement and disgust in right-of-center political circles all through Arafat's death a few years ago. This one to Obama has nearly as much potential to backfire, after all he's still going to be in office for 3+ years and may well have his most difficult choices as President still ahead of him. Not that it matters, probably, since the PP all but jumped the shark when it was awarded to Al Gore two years ago, anyway... Edited October 10, 2009 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted October 10, 2009 The actual balloting for the prize took place less than one month after Obama took office. The results are kept secret until the announcement date. So, what were the actual criteria for the selection? Rhetorical question not requiring a response. No further comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted October 10, 2009 They habitually give the Literature Prize to some worthy person we've never heard of, and stay clear of people who have no difficulty in selling their writings. That would be a bit sad, and I can't remember an unknown writer in the last 25 years ... for those who care about literature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted October 12, 2009 I wonder if Obama considered "respectfully" declining the Prize? Even that would have ruffled some feathers. Is it too early? Yes, definitely. But it's a done deal. Let's hope something can be made of it. Something good and positive and lasting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted October 12, 2009 They habitually give the Literature Prize to some worthy person we've never heard of, and stay clear of people who have no difficulty in selling their writings. That would be a bit sad, and I can't remember an unknown writer in the last 25 years ... for those who care about literature. You are very fortunate if you can read all the languages the winners have written in. Not all of us are so talented. The Romanian-born German poetess who has just won was completely unknown to me, but now I will try to read some of her work -- which, I believe, is the point of the Nobel Prize for Literature. The Japanese novelist Oe Kenzaburo, too, became known to a much wider audience thanks to the Nobel committee. Orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted October 12, 2009 They habitually give the Literature Prize to some worthy person we've never heard of, and stay clear of people who have no difficulty in selling their writings. That would be a bit sad, and I can't remember an unknown writer in the last 25 years ... for those who care about literature. You are very fortunate if you can read all the languages the winners have written in. Not all of us are so talented. The Romanian-born German poetess who has just won was completely unknown to me, but now I will try to read some of her work -- which, I believe, is the point of the Nobel Prize for Literature. The Japanese novelist Oe Kenzaburo, too, became known to a much wider audience thanks to the Nobel committee. Orion (In jonokuchi...) Would be great if I could, but all of them were translated in german or at least french or english. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 103 Posted October 15, 2009 I am shocked. Shocked and awed... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... That people still care about Nobel Prizes. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted October 15, 2009 They habitually give the Literature Prize to some worthy person we've never heard of, and stay clear of people who have no difficulty in selling their writings. That would be a bit sad, and I can't remember an unknown writer in the last 25 years ... for those who care about literature. You are very fortunate if you can read all the languages the winners have written in. Not all of us are so talented. The Romanian-born German poetess who has just won was completely unknown to me, but now I will try to read some of her work -- which, I believe, is the point of the Nobel Prize for Literature. The Japanese novelist Oe Kenzaburo, too, became known to a much wider audience thanks to the Nobel committee. Orion I once did that...reading a winner, I think it was Oe... and I had no idea how that novel could win a price... maybe the translation was not good and killed the effect... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted October 18, 2009 Actually I can't think of a better candidate for now. Can you? Jorge Alberto Rivera Avil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites