Double Digits

[LeoD 17]

Nine rikshi achieved ten or more wins in Kyushu. Quite a lot. I'm interested in how often nine or more guys have managed this but I don't know how to query for it. Could someone please help me?

[Doitsuyama 1,185]

Nine rikshi achieved ten or more wins in Kyushu. Quite a lot. I'm interested in how often nine or more guys have managed this but I don't know how to query for it. Could someone please help me?

Here is the query for that, restricted to 1960 until now (because size of makuuchi was bigger in the years before that).

[Randomitsuki 2,826]

Nine rikshi achieved ten or more wins in Kyushu. Quite a lot. I'm interested in how often nine or more guys have managed this but I don't know how to query for it. Could someone please help me?

Hi, and welcome to the Forum!

Here are the results. Nine double digits isn't that uncommon, as we had it two bashos in a row now.

As you can see from the list, there have been lots of bashos in the 1950s, but back then Makuuchi was much larger. The best record in recent times is 11 double digits in Kyushu 2006 and Natsu 2007.

Edit: The Referend himself was faster...

Edited December 12, 2009 by Randomitsuki

[Asashosakari 19,319]

Nine double digits isn't that uncommon, as we had it two bashos in a row now.

On the other hand, 6 maegashira at double-digits is rather a lot, although it has really picked up this decade, probably primarily as a function of the slight increase in division size since 2004 coupled with the stinginess as far as lower sanyaku ranks are concerned (further boosting the number of maegashira).

[LeoD 17]

Thank you all. Can't explain how I miscounted 2009.09.

[Chisaiyama 11]

Nine double digits isn't that uncommon, as we had it two bashos in a row now.

On the other hand, 6 maegashira at double-digits is rather a lot, although it has really picked up this decade, probably primarily as a function of the slight increase in division size since 2004 coupled with the stinginess as far as lower sanyaku ranks are concerned (further boosting the number of maegashira).

It's interesting to note that, in those results, no Osaka basho ever resulted in 6 or more maegashiras with DD wins and that most of those occurences were either Aki or Kyushu with a couple Hatsu and Natsu tossed in. Coincidence or can anyone come up with a resaonable idea of why those two basho should have such a preponderence of successful maegashira?

[yorikiried by fate 2,028]

It's interesting to note that, in those results, no Osaka basho ever resulted in 6 or more maegashiras with DD wins and that most of those occurences were either Aki or Kyushu with a couple Hatsu and Natsu tossed in. Coincidence or can anyone come up with a resaonable idea of why those two basho should have such a preponderence of successful maegashira?

If Sumo had a season structure with some serious downtime, the answer would be obvious: Towards the end of a the season differences increase due to injuries or fitness, leading to less balanced scores.

I don't see how this applies to sumo, though. With such low numbers in the sample, I'd say pure coincidence.

[kaiguma 0]

It's interesting to note that, in those results, no Osaka basho ever resulted in 6 or more maegashiras with DD wins and that most of those occurences were either Aki or Kyushu with a couple Hatsu and Natsu tossed in. Coincidence or can anyone come up with a resaonable idea of why those two basho should have such a preponderence of successful maegashira?

If Sumo had a season structure with some serious downtime, the answer would be obvious: Towards the end of a the season differences increase due to injuries or fitness, leading to less balanced scores.

I don't see how this applies to sumo, though. With such low numbers in the sample, I'd say pure coincidence.

Don't they say Osaka has slippery clay? And in general a lot more humidity due to climate and the time of year?

[Takamizawa 0]

Don't they say Osaka has slippery clay? And in general a lot more humidity due to climate and the time of year?

I always heard it was Nagoya that had a slippery dohyo :-P

[Orion 431]

Don't they say Osaka has slippery clay? And in general a lot more humidity due to climate and the time of year?

I always heard it was Nagoya that had a slippery dohyo (Clown...)

The Osaka basho has always had a reputation for upsets -- sometimes ascribed to the blustery spring weather. I haven't seen anything lately about the dohyo.

The Nagoya basho has high humidity, as it is held in the height of summer and Nagoya is hemmed in by mountains which keep the strong winds out; the dohyo tends to crack earlier and worse than elsewhere because of the fierce airconditioning needed.

Orion, recovering from a gargantuan Celtic music and dancing session to bid farewell to Duffy's Ginza, which is closing. If you are into Irish pubs, that's a big one winking off the Tokyo map.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

http://www.data.jma.go.jp/obd/stats/data/e...mal/normal.html

Nagoya is much like other parts of mainland Japan in summer. Looking at the climate statistics, Osaka tends to be a little hotter than Nagoya and Tokyo in July, though Nagoya averages more rain. Osaka is bound by mountains closer on all sides than Nagoya.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...pan_topo_en.jpg

Monthly wind speeds in July for Nagoya tend to be similar to Osaka.

http://www.data.jma.go.jp/obd/stats/etrn/v...7636&view=4

Since Nagoya basho is held during the hottest part of the year, greater use of air conditioning could dry out the dohyo more that other venues. That could be one reason for a possibly slippery dohyo. Another could be the type of clay sourced in the region for dohyo construction. If the Osaka dohyo is slippery, one reason also could be the clay used.