Baruto

[Wurstbroetchen 5]

What happens if Baruto repeats the result of the last basho in the next two bashos, each time 14-1 wins, jun-yusho and loosing against the Yokozuna? Will he be promoted to Yokozuna?

[Kuroyama 715]

That's unlikely without a yusho.

Edited April 26, 2010 by Kuroyama

[Zenjimoto 40]

Mmmmmh... Wurstbr

[paolo 0]

I think that a Yokozuna run must start from the Ozeki rank. If this is true, you could not be promoted to Yokozuna even if you were a Sekiwake/Komusubi and you won two bashos in a row, not even if you had been promoted to Ozeki after your first win. I am not sure that this is correct though (but did anything similar ever happen or have a chance to happen ?).

[Flohru 176]

I think that a Yokozuna run must start from the Ozeki rank. If this is true, you could not be promoted to Yokozuna even if you were a Sekiwake/Komusubi and you won two bashos in a row, not even if you had been promoted to Ozeki after your first win. I am not sure that this is correct though (but did anything similar ever happen or have a chance to happen ?).

Well, at least a Yokozuna run should start with a yusho, I don't think we will ever see an Ozeki promoted who hasn't even won one career yusho. Of course strange promotions happened in the past, but past is past.

And apparently there was only one case of an Ozeki promoted to Yokozuna after just one basho at Ozeki and that was 120 years ago.

[Asashosakari 19,648]

And apparently there was only one case of an Ozeki promoted to Yokozuna after just one basho at Ozeki and that was 120 years ago.

Of course that one doesn't really count anyway as Nishinoumi was the first licensed yokozuna to demand being recognized as one on the banzuke. The yokozuna promotion didn't have the same meaning in those days. (Note that Nishinoumi didn't even have the best score in his "promotion basho".)

[Chinonofuji 35]

Well, at least a Yokozuna run should start with a yusho, I don't think we will ever see an Ozeki promoted who hasn't even won one career yusho. Of course strange promotions happened in the past, but past is past.

To build on this -- and sorry if I'm stating the obvious here -- but post-Futahaguro it seems almost set in stone that a Yokozuna promotion takes two consecutive yushos, period, and starting from Ozeki. I suppose there's speculation on whether they would lower it a touch (say Y-JY-Y perhaps) for a Japanese wrestler, but even that is doubtful given their treatment of Takanohana I'd wager.

[Azumashida 1]

I seem to remember that when Tochiazuma won his first basho (which was also his first basho as ozeki) both he and Chiyotaikai (who had been beaten in a kettei-sen on a henka-like move) were considered eligible for yokozuna for the next basho, as both were deemed to have achieved a "yusho-equivalent performance". I don't think I was a member here then (did the forum exist?) but in my recollection there were posts on the SML that translated official YDC statements along these lines.

Edited April 28, 2010 by Azumashida

[Asashosakari 19,648]

I seem to remember that when Tochiazuma won his first basho (which was also his first basho as ozeki) both he and Chiyotaikai (who had been beaten in a kettei-sen on a henka-like move) were considered eligible for yokozuna for the next basho, as both were deemed to have achieved a "yusho-equivalent performance". I don't think I was a member here then (did the forum exist?) but in my recollection there were posts on the SML that translated official YDC statements along these lines.

The problem AFAICT is that there's nothing really official about making an ozeki "eligible for a tsunatori"...they may well say after a 13-2 playoff loss that the ozeki now has a chance for promotion (as they did with Taikai there), but if the next performance is something less-than-impressive like a 12-3 yusho, nothing says they're now bound to their "he's on tsunatori" statements. The eventual official recommendations by the YDC and the decisions by the Kyokai only take place after the run to be considered has finished; it's not a multi-stage process so they're always free to revise or revoke their earlier pronouncements based on what happened afterwards. (As long as they can feel reasonably safe from public criticism of their new decision, of course.)

Edited April 28, 2010 by Asashosakari