Scandal fallout

[Kintamayama 45,111]

C. All 12 Ounomatsu-beya rikishi lost on day 2.

It's more like "All 12 Onomatsu-beya rikishi had only losses in the first two days"

It's actually 13 losses, but who's counting..

If we add the three gamblers who got away, Yoshikaze, Kotoshougiku and Kakizoe, we get a nice 0-19.

[Peterao 3]

C. All 12 Ounomatsu-beya rikishi lost on day 2.

It's more like "All 12 Onomatsu-beya rikishi had only losses in the first two days"

It's actually 13 losses, but who's counting..

If we add the three gamblers who got away, Yoshikaze, Kotoshougiku and Kakizoe, we get a nice 0-19.

If they all lose again today, I'll be convinced that this is not mere coincidence.

[Doitsuyama 1,185]

C. All 12 Ounomatsu-beya rikishi lost on day 2.

It's more like "All 12 Onomatsu-beya rikishi had only losses in the first two days"

It's actually 13 losses, but who's counting..

I am counting 12 rikishi as Masuraumi is 0-2..

[Randomitsuki 2,826]

I am counting 12 rikishi as Masuraumi is 0-2..

And now it's 0-15 overall.

Makes for a great story to be told in a couple of years: The remaining rikishi from Onomatsu-beya were so ashamed by the gambling scandal that they all lost their bouts in the next basho.

Hm, maybe they just show how easy it is to lose a bout if you want to...

[Peterao 3]

4500 people were in attendance for Day 2, 800 less than last year. 223 tickets were refunded that day.

Day 3 isn't looking much better, with a record low of 10 kensho total from 5 companies up for grabs.

[Kintamayama 45,111]

C. All 12 Ounomatsu-beya rikishi lost on day 2.

It's more like "All 12 Onomatsu-beya rikishi had only losses in the first two days"

It's actually 13 losses, but who's counting..

I am counting 12 rikishi as Masuraumi is 0-2..

Yes, that's why I wrote "13 losses" and not "13 rikishi"..

[Kintamayama 45,111]

4500 people were in attendance for Day 2, 800 less than last year. 223 tickets were refunded that day.

Day 3 isn't looking much better, with a record low of 10 kensho total from 5 companies up for grabs.

You are rechristened as Repeaterao. I wrote the exact same thing here yesterday. It's in the same thread, for Pete's sake. It's not the first time either. In order to avoid these double posts in the future- I'm leaving you to report all the "bad' news..

Edited July 13, 2010 by Kintamayama

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Repeaterao! :-)

A couple English articles to add to the fray...

For many of the dozens of wrestlers and former wrestlers caught up in the gambling scandal now rocking the sumo establishment, financial common sense has never been a part of their world.

Exposure to large sums of money, even as a rookie, is part of a sumo career. The stronger a sumo wrestler becomes, the greater will be his rewards.

But, while huge sums of money flow through the sport, wrestlers' financial experience usually has little to do with personal responsibility.

http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201007020493.html

It is natural for some sumo-goers to demand their tickets be refunded because those star wrestlers are not appearing in the tourney. Public broadcaster NHK will decide on July 6 or soon after whether to air the tournament live, while some sponsors have decided to withhold monetary prizes for winning grapplers. Regrettably, the embattled sumo world must reap what it has sown.

The upcoming tournament, which was once on the verge of cancellation, faces extraordinarily intense public scrutiny. Modern sumo fans suspect the JSA's punishments for sumo wrestlers and stablemasters, as well as their probation currently under way, are only nominal. They are apparently not as indifferent to shady affairs as the sumo fans of the Edo period.

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/news/2...0na002000c.html

Profligacy

Edo story

But...it happens to the best of us. :-P

[Peterao 3]

Just PM me a copy of all your posts, and I'll make sure I never dup you again!

[Kintamayama 45,111]

But...it happens to the best of us. ;-)

Egg egg egg - in the face... <bow>...Right- we need to restore some order around here- I will leave the English article links to you-I'm overwhelmed as it is, having to be the charming nice guy all the time.. I'll stick to the odd translation and welcoming the new members. Oh, wait..that's.. oh, never mind.

[Kotoviki 16]

(Applauding...) What happen? I dont understand...

But today a friend told me he dont can record sumo fights because NHK dont show this anymore and he need find another way to watch and record...

He put sumo videos in youtube since 2008 and now dont can do it anymore

Someone can tell me a way to record sumo fights in internet or some TV channel?

he was probably recording the live broadcasts which were cancelled this basho there is only the shortened digest as someone else mentioned but it is just for the few top juryo matches and the makuuchi matches!!! ;-)

[Kotoviki 16]

tonight I watched a video of yesterday's news (I guess all japan not just nagoya?) where my friend was interviewed as a 15 day tamari seat holder and how difficult it was to buy the tamari tickets as opposed to every year before as she always buys the same 2nd row tamari for 15 days every nagoya basho. She had to get checked out before being able to purchase the package... she also got an id card she has to keep. The next interview was Masuraumi's parents who were waiting in line on Shonichi to buy general admission tickets to cheer their son. They talked about how shocked they were about the news of their son's heya. They mentioned it was so disappointing he lost and that they feel it is the stress in and around the heya right now. They too were gutted that there was no tv coverage to watch their son's matches!!!

[Kintamayama 45,111]

Now, we finally know the reason for the latest scandals- the lack of Hawaiians!!

[Asashosakari 19,319]

LOL.

[Kintamayama 45,111]

And now it's 0-15 overall.

0-16 , according to Sanspo.

[ilovesumo 12]

Now, we finally know the reason for the latest scandals- the lack of Hawaiians!!

Probably true.....If all people listen to Kealii Reichel, there would be love and peace. (No irony)

[kawika 123]

Now, we finally know the reason for the latest scandals- the lack of Hawaiians!!

Probably true.....If all people listen to Kealii Reichel, there would be love and peace. (No irony)

So very very very true.....

[Kintamayama 45,111]

And now it's 0-15 overall.

0-16 , according to Sanspo.

And stopped at 17, with Jonidan Makuhari (short for Makushita Harry) winning by yorikiri. "I was a bit tense, but I'm happy now. I'm just thankful to be allowed to mount the dohyo and will gambarize the best I can!" he said. Ounomatsu were 2-8 overall today. Since Tokoyama is in the dog house, the rikishi have been doing each other's hair.

[Kintamayama 45,111]

A slight upturn in attendance today- 400 more than yesterday, 600 less than last year, but better than the 800 less we had for the last couple of days. Same day tickets-720, 20 more than last year's day 4. Women with purple hair-46, 12 more than last year. Drunks thrown out of the venue-4, 8 more than last year.

Edited July 14, 2010 by Kintamayama

[Kotoviki 16]

Drunks thrown out of the venue-4, 8 more than last year.

They missed the one sitting next to us from 8:30 this morning who was obnoxious before 10:00. He caused a loss for Shibahara as he screamed out to him you must win because you are from this prefecture... Shibahara looked over and then missed it on the tachiai. Gave that man some serious piercing look as he walked away from the dohyo!

[XiaoTan 93]

Drunks thrown out of the venue-4, 8 more than last year.

They missed the one sitting next to us from 8:30 this morning who was obnoxious before 10:00. He caused a loss for Shibahara ..

(Applauding...) - How dare he!

Edited July 14, 2010 by XiaoTan

[jakking 0]

Drunks thrown out of the venue-4, 8 more than last year.

They missed the one sitting next to us from 8:30 this morning who was obnoxious before 10:00. He caused a loss for Shibahara as he screamed out to him you must win because you are from this prefecture... Shibahara looked over and then missed it on the tachiai. Gave that man some serious piercing look as he walked away from the dohyo!

Why blame the drunk when it was Shibahara who lost concentration and blew the match? Surely a true rikishi would ignore all outside influences.

[Kintamayama 45,111]

First five days' attendance- 26,000- 3600 less than last year. All days individually did not have more than last year either.

Kensho- 10 yesterday, 11 today.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Kintamayama

[Kotoviki 16]

Drunks thrown out of the venue-4, 8 more than last year.

They missed the one sitting next to us from 8:30 this morning who was obnoxious before 10:00. He caused a loss for Shibahara as he screamed out to him you must win because you are from this prefecture... Shibahara looked over and then missed it on the tachiai. Gave that man some serious piercing look as he walked away from the dohyo!

Why blame the drunk when it was Shibahara who lost concentration and blew the match? Surely a true rikishi would ignore all outside influences.

actually there were more than a half dozen boys who lost concentration with this guy screaming at the tachiai...

He did it from morning til 6pm. Twice the ochaya told him people were complaining and since that wasn't his box he would have to move, so he just moved a bit to the right or left.

Finally everyone gave up the people around him too saying he was noisy and rude... as it got later he got louder..

Today one gyoji told me that some shimpan wanted to have him thrown out but technically they couldn't so....

[Kotoviki 16]

and speaking of drunks... the one who gets the award (pics will be posted on my facebook when I can) is the guy today who ended up being carried out on a stretcher during the Bushuyama bout. I remember only the drunk incident and nothing about sumo.

He was there in a box with another man and a little girl from early in the morning (it was their box & they had their obento and beers and sake delivered before 10am) at some point around noon or so the girl and the one man left. Maybe the daughter wasn't well, maybe they had to get away from the friend? He was in the first row of Masu A we were behind him in the 3rd row. At the start of Makuuchi an ochaya guy came by and cleaned out the empty beer and sake cans which were 5 bags full (like a plastic grocery bag) the lunch boxes, snacks and others were still in the box he was only drinking continuously. He wasn't loud or anything just quietly drinking.

A few matches before Bushuyama he stood up and fell so hard that the whole gym became silent. He knocked himself out and knocked the tamari people's shoes and purses under the scaffolding even... nobody could get him up. In the end with such a disturbance everyone had to get out of the boxes surrounding his and in the last 3 rows of tamari where he had fallen behind them and a total of 6 oyakata got him onto the stretcher (he was a big guy) the police came next and looked around the box and questioned the people in the next box. The photographers stopped taking sumo pics and came over to take pics of the police...

I talked to the police who were still there at the end and I told them there was nothing suspicious he was just drunk. The people in the next box showed up at 4 as did most the boxes around him. I told them he was there since 9am drinking and not eating. End of the story. Maybe they'll put my name in the paper since they took my statement.. LOL

What a real shame....

The Ochaya should get in trouble for continuing to serve him alcohol in his state.

PS I wanted to also tell the cops that I thought NHK should be locked up for not showing sumo... :-)