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Aminishiki-the spirit of Sumo

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I guess nobody saw this, so I'll tell you what happened.. Aminishiki crashed into the crowd with Tochinoshin on top of him, and could not get up for a while. After what seemed like eternity some people came to help him get up and escort him up the (other side) hanamichi. All the while, a monoii was going on, as Aminishiki got the gunbai but it was close. Aminishiki could not stand on his leg, but realizing what was going on, turned around in the middle of the hanamichi and hobbled over to his side of the dohyo to await the verdict. It was decided in his favor, so he hobbled on to the dohyo, hardly able to crouch for the tegatana. He got off the dohyo, but refused to be escorted out , because he wanted to give Kotooushuu his chikaramizu for the next bout. He could hardly stand. Only then was he aided to a wheelchair and left , from his side of the hanamichi this time. Incredible spirit, great rikishi.

I hope this gets the coverage it deserves in the yellow snow, but I doubt it.

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Thought the very same. (Holiday feeling...)

hope he's allright.

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FWIW, he had both knees wrapped for the match. Today's reinjured knee did not appear to be the one that has plagued him throughout his career. This may be a bit of the bright side. I would not be surprised if he went kyujo, but he has fought on following aggrevated knee injuries in the past.

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FWIW, he had both knees wrapped for the match. Today's reinjured knee did not appear to be the one that has plagued him throughout his career. This may be a bit of the bright side. I would not be surprised if he went kyujo, but he has fought on following aggrevated knee injuries in the past.

I honestly don't remember ever seeing a rikishi wheeled out who came back the next day. But, as you say, this is Aminishiki we're talking about..

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This reminds me why I was never quite satisfied watching the World Cup these past few weeks.

All those players putting on the mortally injured act in front of the referee... it makes me lose respect for them.

Sumo seems to have the opposite values: act like you're okay, even when you're seriously injured.

This approach has its drawbacks too. But given the choice of the two, I much prefer the sumo values.

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And what a contrast to Kotooshu immediately putting his hand down to break his fall against Kakuryu the other day.

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And what a contrast to Kotooshu immediately putting his hand down to break his fall against Kakuryu the other day.

And yet Kotooshu is the ozeki. Maybe because he lives to fight another day?

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While I was watching that episode, I had different thought in head. Apart from the respect to Aminishiki (which I have for quite some time already), I was amazed how unhelpful and careless the sumo people were.

While he was laying on the floor after the fall, nobody came to give him a hand and help him maybe for a minute or so. The shimpan sitting right next to him, as well as the rikishi there (I think it was Homasho) didn't even look at him for that one minute.

Then, while he was carried away (no wheelchair), he was asked to return - at least this was my understanding, and the surprised face of Ami kind of confirms that. So he had to follow all those rituals (mono-ii, walking up the dohyo, crouching to receive the win, and getting off the dohyo) - without anyone making even a little compromise with the rules, or at least giving him a helpful hand.

Respect for Aminishiki - but everything else in that scene just made me sad.

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While I was watching that episode, I had different thought in head. Apart from the respect to Aminishiki (which I have for quite some time already), I was amazed how unhelpful and careless the sumo people were.

While he was laying on the floor after the fall, nobody came to give him a hand and help him maybe for a minute or so. The shimpan sitting right next to him, as well as the rikishi there (I think it was Homasho) didn't even look at him for that one minute.

Then, while he was carried away (no wheelchair), he was asked to return - at least this was my understanding, and the surprised face of Ami kind of confirms that. So he had to follow all those rituals (mono-ii, walking up the dohyo, crouching to receive the win, and getting off the dohyo) - without anyone making even a little compromise with the rules, or at least giving him a helpful hand.

Respect for Aminishiki - but everything else in that scene just made me sad.

That wasn't my reading of what happened at all. Several rikishi tried to help him up, but he was in too much difficulty. Then Harumafuji came along and got him up. The only person that didn't move a muscle to help was the Shinpan, and when he did move it was only to join the mono-ii. He was then helped up the (wrong) hanamichi by the yobidashi towards the huge wheelchair, but as the result of the mono-ii was about to be announced, he insisted on returning to the dohyo to listen to the announcement, climbed into the ring to bow to his opponent and finish the job by giving chikara mizu to Kotooshu.

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Maybe somebody should have stopped him for his own good, but rikishi clearly aren't forced to climb back on to the dohyo (whether to acknowledge their win or their loss) if they're incapable of doing so. If Aminishiki did it, it's because he wanted to.

Of course the whole thing with the wrong hanamichi was a bit sub-optimal...

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And it sounds like Aminishiki is going kyujo from tomorrow. Hope that Pyrrhic victory was worth it.

Guess we'll have 3 Juryo rikishi per day coming up from day 14 onwards?

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And what a contrast to Kotooshu immediately putting his hand down to break his fall against Kakuryu the other day.

There was once a Sadogatake-beya rikishi who had the same spirit...

waka_ts.jpg

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There was once a Sadogatake-beya rikishi who had the same spirit...

Of course you know who did this to him: video

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Today's reinjured knee did not appear to be the one that has plagued him throughout his career.

Correction. Upon further review, it was his gamey leg that was injured.

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And what a contrast to Kotooshu immediately putting his hand down to break his fall against Kakuryu the other day.

There was once a Sadogatake-beya rikishi who had the same spirit...

waka_ts.jpg

Those were the times ... (In love...)

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And then compare this with the way Aran won on day 12! (In jonokuchi...)

And he has been doing this for quite a while.

What a looser!

I hope it's not lost on the banzuke makers!

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And then compare this with the way Aran won on day 12! (In jonokuchi...)

Sorry, I meant Day 13, Friday's Henka day...

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And then compare this with the way Aran won on day 12! (In jonokuchi...)

And he has been doing this for quite a while.

What a looser!

What's your definition of "looser"? Is it anything like "loser"?

If so, then Aminishiki is makekoshi, and falling down the banzuke, while the only question about Aran is whether he will be promoted to komusubi or sekiwake.

So if "looser" means "winner", then I agree! :-)

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And then compare this with the way Aran won on day 12! (In jonokuchi...)

And he has been doing this for quite a while.

What a looser!

What's your definition of "looser"? Is it anything like "loser"?

If so, then Aminishiki is makekoshi, and falling down the banzuke, while the only question about Aran is whether he will be promoted to komusubi or sekiwake.

So if "looser" means "winner", then I agree! :-)

"Looser: Idiotic way of spelling "loser". Most often used by teens and adults with no more than a 2nd grade grammar level."

That's me...

Yes, I meant "loser". In my opinion, Aran sumo is not worthy of "sanhyaku"!

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respect Aminishiki! I watched (and recorded) it online and then viewed the match step by step. Aminishiki has jumped into the stalls in order to let Tochinoshin touch dohyo first. He gave all for win, real sumo spirit.

And then compare this with the way Aran won on day 12! (In jonokuchi...)

And he has been doing this for quite a while.

What a looser!

What's your definition of "looser"? Is it anything like "loser"?

If so, then Aminishiki is makekoshi, and falling down the banzuke, while the only question about Aran is whether he will be promoted to komusubi or sekiwake.

So if "looser" means "winner", then I agree! :-)

"Looser: Idiotic way of spelling "loser". Most often used by teens and adults with no more than a 2nd grade grammar level."

That's me...

Yes, I meant "loser". In my opinion, Aran sumo is not worthy of "sanhyaku"!

Maybe it would be nice if there were a "quality of victory" component, and you had to exceed a certain number before you would be allowed into sanyaku, regardless of one's win/loss record. But as of now, that is the only thing taken into account, so no opinions are necessary. Aminishiki will be a mid-level hiramaku rikishi, and Aran will be in sanyaku. Because Aminishiki tries a beautiful win at all costs, and because Aran takes his victories however he can get them.

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