Asashosakari 19,355 Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) An earlyish start into the new year here, lest I get scooped on my own thread again... Welcome to the game where we look at those rikishi who've done very well for themselves of late, more specifically by stringing together at least 5 straight KK. After the bottom half of the large Kyushu ballot was cleared out almost completely we're down to 9 rikishi this time around. As always, just predict whether they'll finish with another KK or see their streak snapped in Hatsu basho: Edited December 29, 2010 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama MK Nionoumi KK Raiko MK Masumiura KK 8. Kotokuni MK Sasakiyama KK And we will have 11 in the list for the March basho. Note: Correct link above should be Kotokuni Edited December 29, 2010 by Asojima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 857 Posted December 29, 2010 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama MK Nionoumi MK Raiko MK Masumiura KK 8. Kotokuni MK Sasakiyama KK Let's have 10 names in our new list after Senshuraku! Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,355 Posted December 29, 2010 Note: Correct link above should be Kotokuni Oops, fixed. Thanks. I still had sumodb.sumogames.com in the links and made a (too) hasty edit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted December 29, 2010 1. Hakuho kk 2. Kotooshu kk 3. Baruto kk 4. Akiseyama mk Nionoumi mk Raiko mk Masumiura kk 8. Kotokuni mk Sasakiyama mk 9 kk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achiyama 1,245 Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) Edited January 7, 2011 by Achiyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted December 29, 2010 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama MK 5. Nionoumi MK 6. Raiko MK 7. Masumiura KK 8. Kotokuni KK 9. Sasakiyama KK and 12 names will be on the list for Haru 2011. yoroshiku, kuroimori Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 814 Posted January 3, 2011 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama MK Nionoumi MK Raiko KK Masumiura KK 8. Kotokuni MK Sasakiyama KK Tie-break: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holleshoryu 16 Posted January 3, 2011 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama KK Nionoumi KK Raiko KK Masumiura MK 8. Kotokuni MK Sasakiyama KK Tie-break: 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,385 Posted January 7, 2011 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama KK Nionoumi KK Raiko MK Masumiura MK 8. Kotokuni KK Sasakiyama KK TB = 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted January 7, 2011 Hakuho KK Kotooshu KK Baruto KK Akiseyama MK Nionoumi MK Raiko KK Masumiura KK Kotokuni KK Sasakiyama MK TB: 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 103 Posted January 8, 2011 1. Hakuho KK 2. Kotooshu KK 3. Baruto KK 4. Akiseyama KK Nionoumi MK Raiko MK Masumiura KK 8. Kotokuni MK Sasakiyama KK TB 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted January 8, 2011 A pretty small bunch left. KK Hakuho KK Kotooshu KK Baruto KK Akiseyama MK Nionoumi KK Raiko MK Masumiura MK Kotokuni KK Sasakiyama tie-breaker : 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,355 Posted January 9, 2011 Flyng blind with no database, oh well. Hakuho KK Kotooshu KK Baruto KK Akiseyama KK Nionoumi MK Raiko MK Masumiura MK Kotokuni KK Sasakiyama KK TB 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mmikasazuma 12 Posted January 9, 2011 Hakuho KK Kotooshu KK Baruto KK Akiseyama KK Nionoumi MK Raiko KK Masumiura MK Kotokuni KK Sasakiyama KK TB: 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,355 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Won't somebody bet against Osh or Bart? No? Oh well. Good thing Kaio's only 3 KK from reappearing in the game. :-P (Still, does this game need fixes to how the yokozuna and ozeki are handled? I honestly don't know.) Anyway, welcome to another edition of the currently least popular forum game! No rookie players among the 13 of you who submitted a guess, but shumitto is back after skipping the last two rounds and dropping to the bottom of the banzuke. Here are the selection stats for Hatsu basho: Player Hakuho Oshu Baruto Akise Nio Raiko Masu Kuni Sasa TB Holleshoryu + + + + + + - - + 11 Jejima + + + + + - - + + 15 Mmikasazuma + + + + - + - + + 13 Vikanohara + + + + - + - - + 13 Gusoyama + + + + - - + - + 14 Asashosakari + + + + - - - + + 11 Asojima + + + - + - + - + 11 Fay + + + - - + + + - 11 ryafuji + + + - - + + - + 12 Achiyama + + + - - + - + + 13 kuroimori + + + - - - + + + 12 Profomisakari + + + - - - + - + 10 shumitto + + + - - - + - - 9 13:0 13:0 13:0 6:7 3:10 6:7 7:6 6:7 11:2 The most important note first: No more robopick by Profomisakari! Perhaps not surprising after last basho's all-KK prediction ended up 5-10. At any rate, fortunately the six non-sanyaku rikishi to predict this time around remain suitably confounding for an interesting game. Four of them ended up receiving selections that are as split down the middle as possible with an odd number of players, and the two landsliders are predicted to slide in opposite directions. No player went against the grain in both selections. All in all the most unusual picks were submitted by Fay, while Profomisakari produced the most average ballot picking with the majority for all 9 slots, but with 7 of 9 picks either unanimous or a near 50/50 split the numbers don't really mean a lot this basho. None of the entries are identical, so we're guaranteed a yusho winner after the ballot comparisons, if not earlier. The average tie-breaker prediction is a hair under 12 (and the distribution is nearly symmetrical, in fact), so our collective wisdom predicts a rather enlarged ballot for the next basho. But for now: Good luck in this one, everyone! Edited January 12, 2011 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted January 13, 2011 Won't somebody bet against Osh or Bart? No? Oh well. Good thing Kaio's only 3 KK from reappearing in the game. :-) (Still, does this game need fixes to how the yokozuna and ozeki are handled? I honestly don't know.) Perhaps for Yokozuna : when there's only one : bet whether he will win the yusho or not when there are several : bet whether they will win 12x or not And for Ozeki perhaps bet whether they will win 10x or not Just an idea to make if a bit more interesting to bet on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,385 Posted January 13, 2011 Won't somebody bet against Osh or Bart? No? Oh well. Good thing Kaio's only 3 KK from reappearing in the game. :-) (Still, does this game need fixes to how the yokozuna and ozeki are handled? I honestly don't know.) Perhaps for Yokozuna : when there's only one : bet whether he will win the yusho or not when there are several : bet whether they will win 12x or not And for Ozeki perhaps bet whether they will win 10x or not Just an idea to make if a bit more interesting to bet on them. Good suggestions. But, to clarify, if an Ozeki were to score 9 wins, would he be out of the game for the next basho? I think they should be kept in (as long as they get a KK), as their KK streak has continued. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted January 13, 2011 If he goes KK but below the target, I would keep them in, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted January 13, 2011 KISS. Why mess with a good thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted January 13, 2011 Maybe because there's not much to it to guess whether Hakuho is going to get another KK ? Even not for Baruto & Kotooshu ? Apart from a possible injury that would make them drop out. But that would only be for the sixth sensers around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,355 Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) But, to clarify, if an Ozeki were to score 9 wins, would he be out of the game for the next basho? I think they should be kept in (as long as they get a KK), as their KK streak has continued. Yeah, the fact that the tie-breaker (really just a "survives for next basho" counter) wouldn't quite match the main predictions to make is one of the parts I'm struggling with. Rikishi with KK but missing the target line would definitely stay in for the next round, but I'm not sure how to count them for tie-breaker purposes. Perhaps for Yokozuna :when there's only one : bet whether he will win the yusho or not when there are several : bet whether they will win 12x or not And for Ozeki perhaps bet whether they will win 10x or not Thanks for the ideas, I was initially thinking along those same lines. An alternative idea I've been considering, comments welcome: Predict whether the ozeki/yokozuna beats his own average of the last 5 basho. (5 because that's the minimum KK streak required to get onto the list.) For this basho the targets would have been: Hakuho 15-0 (14.8) Baruto 11-4 (10.4) Kotooshu 10-5 (9.4) KISS. Why mess with a good thing? I know. But I'm really kinda bored with the uniformity of the top picks. ;-) Edited January 14, 2011 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted January 17, 2011 Raiko already KK (4-0), Sasakiyama already MK (0-4). And of course Hakuho already KK as well (8-0). Several others are close already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,355 Posted January 17, 2011 Day 8: Indeed, I technically missed a Day 7 update when Sasakiyama dropped to MK. But with Raiko's early KK today we had another decision anyway, and this one resulted in more points than the Sasakiyama makekoshi which only Fay and shumitto predicted. Fay also finds herself on the right side of today's decision and takes the early lead, and that's not to mention an excellent position for a potential yusho tie-breaker by getting the lowest bracket correct via Sasakiyama. Oh yeah, and that Hakuho guy collected his 8th win today, too, so everybody's got at least one point. (More rules feedback still welcome, BTW.) Day 8: 3/9 Decisions, TB 2-19 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Fay 3 11 2 shumitto 2 9 3 Holleshoryu 2 11 4 ryafuji 2 12 5 Achiyama 2 13 5 Mmikasazuma 2 13 5 Vikanohara 2 13 8 Profomisakari 1 10 9 Asashosakari 1 11 9 Asojima 1 11 11 kuroimori 1 12 12 Gusoyama 1 14 13 Jejima 1 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,355 Posted January 17, 2011 Day 9: Early kachikoshi for Kotooshu and Baruto...hey, second basho in a row that the ozeki squad aren't embarrassing themselves. (Sign of approval...) No change in the standings except everybody now has two more points. The first backup decision has also come in with Mongolian semi-prospect Kagamio falling to MK in his first trip into makushita-joi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
