Yaocho by mobile scandal-

[Kotoviki 16]

  Peterao said:

  ilovesumo said:

  Peterao said:

  Kintamayama said:

On his way out, he was asked if he holds a drivers' license . "I have no such thing!" he answered indignantly, got in the car, and drove himself away...

Punishment for driving without a license in Japan includes 300000 yen fine, a one year prison sentence, and deportation.

Now I want the text of that law. Really, deportation? I smell irony, but we are talking about Japan, so....

http://www.pref.ibaraki.jp/bukyoku/seikan/...12demerits.html

Deportation is just the consequences of a foreigner getting a criminal record. But the US Embassy site info bears this out:

http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/acs/tacs-drive.html

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Persons found driving in Japan without a legal license are subject to fines, arrest and possible deportation.

Quite interesting as I have known 5 people (foreigners) caught driving without licenses and they were treated exactly the same as Japanese citizens. (seems you can't deport Japanese!)

[Pippooshu 1]

What about Gagamaru? Is he suspected again for yaocho?

Edited April 21, 2011 by Pippooshu

[Yubinhaad 11,761]

  Kintamayama said:

Ex-Kouryuu is planning to sue the Kyokai. He visited the offices at the KKan yesterday to wrap up his dealings with sumo. He has expressed his dissatisfaction of the fact that even though he maintains his innocence, he was pressured into handing in his retirement papers. He has met with a lawyer. "For now, everyone is acting all nice and obedient, but I think once the danpatsu is over, they will sue," he thought. He did not meet the rijicho. "If I see his face, I feel I'd want to punch him..," he said.

What a charming fellow. Innocent or not, sumo is clearly better off without the likes of Koryu.

[Asashosakari 19,654]

Not sure if this is what prompted Pippooshu's question or if it's just a coincidence, but: The investigation committee met again today, and decided to send a protest note and demand for apology to Mainichi Shimbun over an earlier article that incorrectly claimed the committee was going to finger Gagamaru and ex-Kitazakura as yaocho participants. Mainichi had already run a correction on its own a few days later.

In other news, at least one of the cell phone analyses now isn't expected to be available until at least July. (From what I've read that's not unusual in case the make of a model is so unusual that the data-reconstruction company hasn't handled anything like it before and needs to reverse-engineer the phone's data storage system from the ground up.) Given that not much new is expected to come out of this, the committee may decide to go ahead with its final report without awaiting the analysis results so as to avoid having Nagoya basho as another technical exam tournament instead of a honbasho proper. Uh-oh.

Lastly, the committee will cooperate with the Kyokai's lawyers in their efforts to fend off the unjust dismissal lawsuits by Sokokurai and Hoshikaze.

Edited April 21, 2011 by Asashosakari

[Fujisan 533]

  Asashosakari said:

  Fujisan said:

Can we have the pre-intai names for the Oyakata's demoted please?

Sure.

Thanks Asasho (In a state of confusion...)

None of my favourite rikishi were involved but a few old favourites on the oyakata list (Sign of approval...) (Shaking head...) (Shaking head...)

[Kintamayama 45,527]

  Asashosakari said:

It appears the committee will be hanging around until at least early May after all, as the analysis of one of the three cell phones still under investigation won't be finished by mid-April as originally expected.

It looks like they will give up on this. at least two of the phones are broken to an extent that it's going to take a while to get any information from them. "It seems like it's going to take another three months, which means it may well affect the ticket sale date for Nagoya. I say we call it a day, accept the fact that it cannot be done, apologize, and go home," said an already irate Chairman Ito of the investigative committee who already has made it clear that he's exhausted from this crap.

[Peterao 3]

Though the reasons given by NHK for not covering the event were "reform measures have yet to be implemented, and this not being a Hon Basho", they also commented that "we did not receive a noticeable number of supportive comments from the viewers" So I don't think that coverage of the Nagoya Basho is anywhere close to being assured yet.

[Kintamayama 45,527]

Soukokurai is the first of the dismissed that has asked the Tokyo district court to preserve his rikishi status by forcing the Kyokai to pay him his salary.

[Peterao 3]

  Kintamayama said:

Soukokurai is the first of the dismissed that has asked the Tokyo district court to preserve his rikishi status by forcing the Kyokai to pay him his salary.

Think that should read: "Soukokurai is the first of the dismissed that has asked the Tokyo district court to preserve his rikishi status and force the Kyokai to pay him his salary."

[sumofan 6]

  Yubinhaad said:

  Kintamayama said:

Ex-Kouryuu is planning to sue the Kyokai. He visited the offices at the KKan yesterday to wrap up his dealings with sumo. He has expressed his dissatisfaction of the fact that even though he maintains his innocence, he was pressured into handing in his retirement papers. He has met with a lawyer. "For now, everyone is acting all nice and obedient, but I think once the danpatsu is over, they will sue," he thought. He did not meet the rijicho. "If I see his face, I feel I'd want to punch him..," he said.

What a charming fellow. Innocent or not, sumo is clearly better off without the likes of Koryu.

You say 'innocent or not' but an innocent person would be quite justified at being angry.

If you were innocent and thrown out of your job in a withhunt, you'd probably have similar feelings.

Btw I am not saying he is innocent. I am only saying that an innocent would have every right to be angry.

[Peterao 3]

  sumofan said:

  Yubinhaad said:

  Kintamayama said:

Ex-Kouryuu is planning to sue the Kyokai. He visited the offices at the KKan yesterday to wrap up his dealings with sumo. He has expressed his dissatisfaction of the fact that even though he maintains his innocence, he was pressured into handing in his retirement papers. He has met with a lawyer. "For now, everyone is acting all nice and obedient, but I think once the danpatsu is over, they will sue," he thought. He did not meet the rijicho. "If I see his face, I feel I'd want to punch him..," he said.

What a charming fellow. Innocent or not, sumo is clearly better off without the likes of Koryu.

You say 'innocent or not' but an innocent person would be quite justified at being angry.

If you were innocent and thrown out of your job in a withhunt, you'd probably have similar feelings.

Btw I am not saying he is innocent. I am only saying that an innocent would have every right to be angry.

And I also think there's a big difference between saying "I feel I'd want to punch him" and "I'd punch him"

[Kotoviki 16]

  Peterao said:

  sumofan said:

  Yubinhaad said:

  Kintamayama said:

Ex-Kouryuu is planning to sue the Kyokai. He visited the offices at the KKan yesterday to wrap up his dealings with sumo. He has expressed his dissatisfaction of the fact that even though he maintains his innocence, he was pressured into handing in his retirement papers. He has met with a lawyer. "For now, everyone is acting all nice and obedient, but I think once the danpatsu is over, they will sue," he thought. He did not meet the rijicho. "If I see his face, I feel I'd want to punch him..," he said.

What a charming fellow. Innocent or not, sumo is clearly better off without the likes of Koryu.

You say 'innocent or not' but an innocent person would be quite justified at being angry.

If you were innocent and thrown out of your job in a withhunt, you'd probably have similar feelings.

Btw I am not saying he is innocent. I am only saying that an innocent would have every right to be angry.

And I also think there's a big difference between saying "I feel I'd want to punch him" and "I'd punch him"

I agree and I believe there are a bunch of other guys out there with the same feeling!!!

[Kintamayama 45,527]

  Kintamayama said:

Soukokurai is the first of the dismissed that has asked the Tokyo district court to preserve his rikishi status by forcing the Kyokai to pay him his salary.

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[Babaryutaikai 1]

  Kintamayama said:

  Kintamayama said:

Soukokurai is the first of the dismissed that has asked the Tokyo district court to preserve his rikishi status by forcing the Kyokai to pay him his salary.

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Good for him! I hope he wins his case, although we all know it's very difficult to prove a negative sometimes.

[Treblemaker 254]

This whole thing reminds me of the story of the duck hunter, sitting with a shotgun in a boat on a lake. The gun goes off accidentally, which creates holes in the bottom of the boat. Water, naturally, starts to fill the boat. The hunter, in a moment of genius, decides to shoot the bottom of the boat again in order to make more holes for the water to drain out....

I seriously think this is such a mess that I recommend that the Kyokai get Charlie Sheen, Mel Gibson and Nicolas Sarkozy in to straighten out this whole thing.

Oh. and Tom Cruise as well.....

Edited April 23, 2011 by Treblemaker

[Peterao 3]

Over 60 people of "The Organization to Surround Sokukurai" met today in an undisclosed location in Tokyo, some coming from as far away as Osaka.

A happy ex-Sokokurai commented "It warms my heart as each new person comes to believe me and offer their support."

A lady from Kawasaki who heard about the event from Twitter said "I've been a fan for about four years. I've followed the heya home page all this time. When something like this happened, I thought that I must support him. (Regarding the punishment) The fans might be able to accept it if the Kyokai came forward with actual proof."

He may have a difficult time even if he gets his ultimate wish to be reinstated for the May skill test, as it is said that he has dropped over 10 kg since his fighting days...

Edited April 24, 2011 by Peterao

[Kotoviki 16]

  Peterao said:

Over 60 people of "The Organization to Surround Sokukurai" met today in an undisclosed location in Tokyo, some coming from as far away as Osaka.

A happy ex-Sokokurai commented "It warms my heart as each new person comes to believe me and offer their support."

A lady from Kawasaki who heard about the event from Twitter said "I've been a fan for about four years. I've followed the heya home page all this time. When something like this happened, I thought that I must support him. (Regarding the punishment) The fans might be able to accept it if the Kyokai came forward with actual proof."

He may have a difficult time even if he gets his ultimate wish to be reinstated for the May skill test, as it is said that he has dropped over 10 kg since his fighting days...

Not quite undisclosed, the location was posted on his blog in advance!! :-)

Fujinozushi sushi restaurant in Chuo-ku!!

Sokokurai at 藤乃鮨

[Peterao 3]

This will be the "lightest" tournament in recent memory in more ways than one, as it is reported that 22 of the 35 active Makunouchi rikishi have lost "much weight" since the last time out.

It's also being reported that two Jonidan rikishi of Tomozuna beya are resigning due to "yaocho shock"

Edited April 26, 2011 by Peterao

[Kintamayama 45,527]

Benedict ex-Kasuganishiki- what is he up to lately? "I don't think he has decided what to do with his "second life". Since he doesn't have any qualifications, I heard from his lawyer that he is taking driving lessons. I also heard he has gone to a barber and cut his mage. I have actually seen him only once since this all started when he came down to the heya and apologized," said Kasugano Oyakata. The plan was for a danpatsushiki on May 1st, but who knows what made him cut his hair on his own. Probably an offer he couldn't refuse from some disgruntled ex-rikishi.

Edited April 28, 2011 by Kintamayama

[Kotoviki 16]

  Peterao said:

This will be the "lightest" tournament in recent memory in more ways than one, as it is reported that 22 of the 35 active Makunouchi rikishi have lost "much weight" since the last time out.

It's also being reported that two Jonidan rikishi of Tomozuna beya are resigning due to "yaocho shock"

It wasn't yaocho shock it was lack of confidence in the kyokai. I posted this while back under the honbasho news as retirements. They were also best friends since joining sumo and when one left the other also said he felt sad. The Tokyoyama went with them.

[Naganoyama 5,948]

Please could anybody post (preferably in a separate thread) a list of rikishi gyoji yobidashi tokoyama who have retired since the yaocho business. (Obviously no need to include the implicated folk)

[Kotoviki 16]

  Naganoyama said:

Please could anybody post (preferably in a separate thread) a list of rikishi gyoji yobidashi tokoyama who have retired since the yaocho business. (Obviously no need to include the implicated folk)

gyoji: Sakaigawa beya Tatsunosuke

tokoyama: Tomozuna beya Tokotomo

and that is all I know for sure yet....

[Kintamayama 45,527]

Interesting, must have missed the original..

[Kintamayama 45,527]

Soukokurai and Hoshikaze have been wiped off the un-banzuke, it was reported earlier today. The other rikishi who were fired and handed in their resignations remain on the un-banzuke.

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

  Kintamayama said:

Soukokurai and Hoshikaze have been wiped off the un-banzuke, it was reported earlier today. The other rikishi who were fired and handed in their resignations remain on the un-banzuke.

How can you wipe someone off something which doesn't even exist, even virtually?.. Especially in these times the Kyokai website could definitely be more up to snuff.