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Mukonoso

Sumo wrestlers during WW2

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Found this on another website.

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Great image, i've always liked old photo's, video footage etc, it gives me a strange feeling to see the past, a few video's i saw on youtube of various places including London more than a hundred years ago were really fascinating, like a window to another world.

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Hmm, my second post has the image showing but not the first post with two images. I tried posting image but the forum says I'm not allowed to use that image extension on this community. Oh well.

I love old photos as well. Whenever I work the local library sales in the Spring and Fall I pick up all the photo and coffee table books I can find. Old London, Paris, Japan and even image archive books. Victorian England and WW2 Japan are my favorites.

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Thanks for those pics Mukunoso. I shared the photo above on Facebook and one rikishi thought it might be the battleship Yamato.One of the Nichidai amasumo boys who was world junior champion (Masakatsu Ishiura) is in Australia with us at the moment and he said that his teammate's grandfather was the strongest sumo wrestler on the Yamato and was apparently onboard when it sunk. I didn't ask but its possible that he may have survived if his grandson is a relatively recent graduate of the Nichidai. The father would have to be at least 67 if the grandfather was one of the 300 out of 2300 odd Japanese seamen who survived. This ship can't be the Yamato because its too small and there should be 6 huge guns on the bow which were capable of firing up to 42kms away.

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Thanks for sharing the photo. Yeah, I'm not 100% convinced that it is the Yamato or her sister ship either. The bridge tower looks a bit small compared to the pics I have seen on the web and in the book I have call A Glorious Way To Die: The Kamikaze Mission Of The Battleship Yamato (excellent book). Though by the same token it is hard not to be sure since the pic is cut off at the top.

If it was the Yamato the guns visible would be No.2 Turret and the smaller No.1 Aux Battery, both of which were situated behind No.1 Turret.

But I guess this line of discussion could lead to another thread in the Japan sub-forum. BTW, have you seen the Japanese movie Otokotachi no Yamato?

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From turrets it seems pretty sure that its not Yamato or Musashi, but could easily be any of the other 10 Japanese battleships. Looking at superstructure my guess would be Nagato or her sister ship Mutsu. May be wrong though.

Btw, Japanese warship naming conventions are quite different from standard European approach and seem actually somewhat similar to rikishi shikonas. For example there were aircraft carriers Taiho and Unryu, and battleship Kirishima, and I am sure there is plenty of more overlapping.

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Hmm, I hadn't noticed that before but you are right. The turrets only have two guns instead of the three that the Yamato and Musashi had. Good catch.

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Here's a scan I posted on flickr a few years ago.

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"Japanese sailors having a sumo match in the Indian Ocean, on the deck of the battleship 'Asama'. 1934."

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Cool! Thanks for adding to the photo collection. (Reading book...) (we need a thumbs up emoticon ;-) )

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Gah! I guess I need new glasses or to pay more attention. I never noticed that tiny right arrow to give more emoticon choices. I'm used to a drop down list or a link that says "more". Thanks (Dripping sweat...)

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Not sure if this rikishi was in the military but...

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An interesting image from after the war with wrestlers visiting America in July/August 1951.

http://www.janm.org/...tem/96.267.132/

Former yokozuna Maedayama (Kinmatsu Hagimori), Yakatayama (Hakaru Yasutake), Onoumi (Hisamitsu Mojima), and Fujitayama (Tadayoshi Fujita)

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