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[Exil 301]

Leave any comments related to the latest update (version 3.4) in this thread.

For example: It looks like we're having calendar issues again. Not to worry, I'm on the job.

Edited December 8, 2012 by Exil

[Asashosakari 19,653]

In edit mode, click the upper left Toggle Edit Mode button to get the URL instead of the full pic. Is there a way to set the default for this button?

There used to be, but I can't see one. So probably not.

Don't know what you did to get the editmode button setting to be persistent last time, but I'd love to see you do it again...

Edit: Wow, manually constructing quote blocks appears to be horribly broken.

Later edit: Never mind the editmode button, after all.

Edited December 8, 2012 by Asashosakari

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Edit: Wow, manually constructing quote blocks appears to be horribly broken.

All quoting, actually.

[Exil 301]

For example: It looks like we're having calendar issues again. Not to worry, I'm on the job.

Fixed now.

Edit: Wow, manually constructing quote blocks appears to be horribly broken.

All quoting, actually.

Better?

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Edit: Wow, manually constructing quote blocks appears to be horribly broken.

All quoting, actually.

Better?

Looks like it, thanks. Can we also get rid of the linefeed between multiple quote tags and instead get a linefeed below the quote blocks again? :-)

[Yubinhaad 11,761]

I know Asashosakari reported it was OK, but I'm using IE9 and current editor mode is not being retained for me - it always reverts back to the rich text editor, even if I'm previewing a post I've just written in the plain text editor.

Is it possible to rearrange the tab order on the login screen? I'd like to do the Tab-Space shuffle to pass through the check boxes to the login button, like I used to. When I hit tab from the password box now, I end up in the search box.

In some older posts, text in code boxes is even more broken than it was before.

And I've just spotted that the protocol dropdown list in the link box contains some weird characters. Doesn't affect the actual link, however.




One other non-critical issue, the custom time frame filter doesn't seem to work. If I go to Honbasho Talk, set it to Show All and then use the "Jump to page" box for page 90, for example, I get the error page which says:

"The topic filter settings you submitted are not valid. Please go back and reset your topic filter settings."

[Asashosakari 19,653]

I know Asashosakari reported it was OK, but I'm using IE9 and current editor mode is not being retained for me - it always reverts back to the rich text editor, even if I'm previewing a post I've just written in the plain text editor.

I've just cleared my cache in IE9, and the behaviour has changed. (Laughing...) As mentioned last night, it used to remember the mode setting (I just re-verified that right before hitting the clear cache button), now it doesn't. However, for me it defaults to the BBCode editor, not the RTE...weird. FF3.6 continues to default to RTE.

[Jakusotsu 6,049]

Don't know if it's because of the latest Forum Update or rather Firefox 17.0.1 to blame, but a new behaviour is quite annoying: when you click "first unread" in a thread with a lot of pictures, it won't position to the new post anymore after loading.

Edited December 9, 2012 by Jakusotsu

[yorikiried by fate 2,029]

Don't know if it's because of the latest Forum Update or rather Firefox 17.0.1 to blame, but a new behaviour is quite annoying: when you click "first unread" in a thread with a lot of pictures, it won't position to the new post anymore after loading.

Same here.

And I also don't see the quote block in the whatevermode, while the mouseover for the modechanging button always shows "BBCode mode", eben when it should say "whatever mode".

Whatever.

[yorikiried by fate 2,029]

Also, since the update my fridge door makes sounds. Any ideas?

[Exil 301]

Edit: Wow, manually constructing quote blocks appears to be horribly broken.

All quoting, actually.

Better?

Looks like it, thanks. Can we also get rid of the linefeed between multiple quote tags and instead get a linefeed below the quote blocks again? :-)

How about a margin? :-) The excess <p> looks like a bug.

I know Asashosakari reported it was OK, but I'm using IE9 and current editor mode is not being retained for me - it always reverts back to the rich text editor, even if I'm previewing a post I've just written in the plain text editor.

I've just cleared my cache in IE9, and the behaviour has changed. (Laughing...) As mentioned last night, it used to remember the mode setting (I just re-verified that right before hitting the clear cache button), now it doesn't. However, for me it defaults to the BBCode editor, not the RTE...weird. FF3.6 continues to default to RTE.

Seems to work better now.

Don't know if it's because of the latest Forum Update or rather Firefox 17.0.1 to blame, but a new behaviour is quite annoying: when you click "first unread" in a thread with a lot of pictures, it won't position to the new post anymore after loading.

Confirmed. Will have to investigate.

And I also don't see the quote block in the whatevermode, while the mouseover for the modechanging button always shows "BBCode mode", eben when it should say "whatever mode".

Whatever.

Quote blocks should be fixed. The BBCode button is a BBCode Mode toggle (on/off), so it's supposed to say that.

Also, since the update my fridge door makes sounds. Any ideas?

Well, I'd try clearing any cookies you might have in your kitchen. But that's just me, you may not like cookies. (Eating...)

[Yubinhaad 11,761]

I know Asashosakari reported it was OK, but I'm using IE9 and current editor mode is not being retained for me - it always reverts back to the rich text editor, even if I'm previewing a post I've just written in the plain text editor.

I've just cleared my cache in IE9, and the behaviour has changed. (Laughing...) As mentioned last night, it used to remember the mode setting (I just re-verified that right before hitting the clear cache button), now it doesn't. However, for me it defaults to the BBCode editor, not the RTE...weird. FF3.6 continues to default to RTE.

Seems to work better now.

Confirmed, thanks Exil!

Also, cancel my request to fiddle with the tab order on the login screen - I'm now seeing the login popup instead which is fine.

Edited December 10, 2012 by Yubinhaad

[Exil 301]

In some older posts, text in code boxes is even more broken than it was before.

I'll have to investigate further but I fear this isn't something we can fix. :-( Those posts have gone through one too many post parsers and the original formatting might be gone for good. We'd have to fix them manually, and there are far too many of them.

And I've just spotted that the protocol dropdown list in the link box contains some weird characters. Doesn't affect the actual link, however.

Confirmed. At least it's working, though.

One other non-critical issue, the custom time frame filter doesn't seem to work. If I go to Honbasho Talk, set it to Show All and then use the "Jump to page" box for page 90, for example, I get the error page which says:

"The topic filter settings you submitted are not valid. Please go back and reset your topic filter settings."

Confirmed. I think I saw a bug report concerning the topic filter.

Confirmed, thanks Exil!

Also, cancel my request to fiddle with the tab order on the login screen - I'm now seeing the login popup instead which is fine.

You're welcome. I thought I fixed it last night but didn't have time to test. Another one off the list. :-)

Edited December 10, 2012 by Exil

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Maybe a silly question, but...that "topic summary" at the bottom of the full reply window, wasn't that listing posts in reverse chronological order before the update?

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Moved from my testing thread...

Output looks fine, although I wonder what's with all the randomly placed linebreaks in the source text...

Okay, not randomly - there's one after every closing center tag. Strange.

And now I see why the first table test in the OP looked so weird - all center tags were stripped out of that one on posting. I assume something has been fixed there? Any relation of that apparent fix to the linebreaks?

Edit: Small issue with the BBcode editor - a single empty line ahead of a quote block disappears when it's posted. To get a linefeed in there and avoid things looking squished together like this

test quote

one is forced to add two empty lines (which get collapsed into the desired one empty line). It works fine in the RTE. Edited December 12, 2012 by Asashosakari

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Not sure if this qualifies as a bug or is expected behaviour...in the RTE it's impossible to correctly copy-paste text that has leading or trailing spaces, they get stripped out in the pasted version.

As I almost never used the RTE before I have no idea if that's a 3.4 issue or one that was already present before.

[Jakusotsu 6,049]

Not sure if this qualifies as a bug or is expected behaviour...in the RTE it's impossible to correctly copy-paste text that has leading or trailing spaces, they get stripped out in the pasted version.

As I almost never used the RTE before I have no idea if that's a 3.4 issue or one that was already present before.

I remember the very same behavior from earlier "new" versions. I took to pasting formatted text in the PTE only since then.

[Exil 301]

Upgrade to version 3.4.1. Still trying to figure out what they fixed.

One other non-critical issue, the custom time frame filter doesn't seem to work. If I go to Honbasho Talk, set it to Show All and then use the "Jump to page" box for page 90, for example, I get the error page which says:

"The topic filter settings you submitted are not valid. Please go back and reset your topic filter settings."

Confirmed. I think I saw a bug report concerning the topic filter.

A brief test would suggest that it is now working as intended again.

Maybe a silly question, but...that "topic summary" at the bottom of the full reply window, wasn't that listing posts in reverse chronological order before the update?

Used to be, and is yet again. :-)

Link protocol drop-down is still bugged.

Edited December 15, 2012 by Exil

[Yubinhaad 11,761]

I was just looking through last basho's video thread, and some of Kintamayama's videos aren't embedded any more, with only the URL showing instead. I don't know if this is due to the forum updates, or to the changes which have recently been made at YouTube itself (which I assumed were cosmetic, but maybe not).

[Exil 301]

Edit: Wow, manually constructing quote blocks appears to be horribly broken.

All quoting, actually.

Better?

Looks like it, thanks. Can we also get rid of the linefeed between multiple quote tags and instead get a linefeed below the quote blocks again? :-)

How about a margin? :-) The excess <p> looks like a bug.

Scratch that, this is intended behavior. Wait, it works now? (Eh?)

Moved from my testing thread...

Output looks fine, although I wonder what's with all the randomly placed linebreaks in the source text...

Okay, not randomly - there's one after every closing center tag. Strange.

And now I see why the first table test in the OP looked so weird - all center tags were stripped out of that one on posting. I assume something has been fixed there? Any relation of that apparent fix to the linebreaks?

Somehow each <span> turns into <p>, which is what causes the line breaks. I don't know what is going on, but it works, so what the hey...

Not sure if this qualifies as a bug or is expected behaviour...in the RTE it's impossible to correctly copy-paste text that has leading or trailing spaces, they get stripped out in the pasted version.

As I almost never used the RTE before I have no idea if that's a 3.4 issue or one that was already present before.

Might be fixed. (Being unsure...)

I was just looking through last basho's video thread, and some of Kintamayama's videos aren't embedded any more, with only the URL showing instead. I don't know if this is due to the forum updates, or to the changes which have recently been made at YouTube itself (which I assumed were cosmetic, but maybe not).

A known issue in 3.4, fixed in 3.4.1. I'm not sure about day 10, though...

Edit: Yeah, it's still not working properly.

3.4.2 might be coming out before the holidays with further bug fixes. Stay tuned.

Edited December 16, 2012 by Exil

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Don't know if it's because of the latest Forum Update or rather Firefox 17.0.1 to blame, but a new behaviour is quite annoying: when you click "first unread" in a thread with a lot of pictures, it won't position to the new post anymore after loading.

Confirmed. Will have to investigate.

Seems to be fixed? Or maybe I got lucky just now.

[Fukurou 534]

When you click the "Reply to this Topic" button, "Preview Post" and "Cancel" options are available at the below the reply box. However, when you reply to a message after clicking the "Quote" button, those options are not available unless you also click the "More Reply Options" button. Any way to get some consistency in this? (I prefer the former way to the latter way)

[Asashosakari 19,653]

Hasn't it been that way since the big update to 3.x a few months ago? Pretty sure it's intended behaviour that the quote button sends you to the place formerly known as the Fast Reply box with its limited options, while Post New Reply opens up the full dialog. I suspect there isn't anything Exil can do about it, since the difference between the two interfaces is much bigger than just the presence of the preview button...

[Fukurou 534]

Hasn't it been that way since the big update to 3.x a few months ago? Pretty sure it's intended behaviour that the quote button sends you to the place formerly known as the Fast Reply box with its limited options, while Post New Reply opens up the full dialog. I suspect there isn't anything Exil can do about it, since the difference between the two interfaces is much bigger than just the presence of the preview button...

I know Reply to Topic and Quote have been presenting different options since the last big update, I was just hoping they might have "fixed" it. It's just silly, lazy programming to present 2 sets of tools to do the same task, and have the tool set dependant on where you started.

[Asashosakari 19,653]

I know Reply to Topic and Quote have been presenting different options since the last big update, I was just hoping they might have "fixed" it. It's just silly, lazy programming to present 2 sets of tools to do the same task, and have the tool set dependant on where you started.

Well, it's not meant to be the same task, as the evolution from the former Fast Reply dialog demonstrates. One's for hammering out a quick response, the other for making posts that are complex enough to require preview, file attachments, etc. In any case, I doubt it's even possible to include a preview function in the limited reply window since its whole point is to keep you on the thread and a preview almost certainly would need to send you to a different page.

If you want to include quotes and still use the "Reply to this topic" button to get directly to the full dialog, you can use the Multi-quote feature.