Kintamayama 45,137 Posted June 29, 2013 Chiyotairyuu trained with Kisenosato at a union keiko and was 4-8. this keiko consisted of all heya that had connections to the old Futagoyama beya run by Ex-Wakanohana I. He was invited by Shouhouzan to join in. "When he got my mawashi I was helpless, but when I did quick sumo it was OK. It was the first time I faced an Ozeki at degeiko so it was good," he said. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,514 Posted June 29, 2013 Kisenosato's degeiko at the temple which was the location of the former Futagoyama-beya of Wakanohana I. His former shisho (Takanosato) was trained there.5-0 with Shohozan.Favoring only slightly his right leg: “One nights sleep and it's OK again.” Losing to Chiyotairyuwith Myogiryu yesterday, against whom he lost the first 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukonoso 273 Posted June 29, 2013 Tak is looking healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,514 Posted June 29, 2013 Oosunaarashi yesterday trained with Furiwake-oyakata in butsukari-geiko, his first ever degeiko was to Azumazeki-beya. 31-0 with the makushita rikishi there. At his heya many are injured.Furiwake: “His defenses are weak, there's still some way to go, but his pushing and thrusting strength is powerful and he is upfront in his character. He will become an interesting presence.”He plans to train today and tomorrow at the heya and then go again for degeiko to Azumazeki-beya.Kyokutenho aims to become the eldest in sanyaku next basho, when he's 39, surpassing Takamiyama with 38y.2m.At the heya 12-2 in keiko bouts with Asahisho etc.with Kyokutaisei 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,911 Posted June 29, 2013 Oosunaarashi yesterday trained with Furiwake-oyakata in butsukari-geiko, his first ever degeiko was to Azumazeki-beya. 31-0 with the makushita rikishi there. At his heya many are injured. Furiwake: “His defenses are weak, there's still some way to go, but his pushing and thrusting strength is powerful and he is upfront in his character. He will become an interesting presence.” He plans to train today and tomorrow at the heya and then go again for degeiko to Azumazeki-beya. ... Icon of the future against icon of the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 75 Posted June 29, 2013 If Osunaarashi doesn't lower that center of gravity he will get mercilessly trounced in Makuuchi. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botev1921 33 Posted June 29, 2013 This should be prep of the masses and all I read about are the over-hyped masses basically. Can somebody cover a bit more from other rikishi? What's up with Baruto, Goeido, Aoiyama, Kaisei? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted June 29, 2013 If Osunaarashi doesn't lower that center of gravity he will get mercilessly trounced in Makuuchi. I’d agree that Osunaarashi needs to refine his technique, however that’s not uncommon for someone as new to sumo as he is. But his wins last basho again Akiseyama and Endo were impressive, and the notion that he’s going to be “mercilessly trounced” in two or three basho is sorely misguided. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,331 Posted June 29, 2013 I only skimmed the post at first and thought 31-0 was his record against noted keiko ragdoll Furiwake... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,137 Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) This should be prep of the masses and all I read about are the over-hyped masses basically. Can somebody cover a bit more from other rikishi? What's up with Baruto, Goeido, Aoiyama, Kaisei? As you probably know, we only do the translating. And when nothing is written in the local press about your loved ones, there's nothing to translate. Now, if there are forum members in Japan who are going to training sessions in Nagoya (highly unlikely..) maybe they can throw us a bone.Till then, you're stuck with the over-hyped masses, habibi.. Still, Aoiyama.. Edited June 29, 2013 by Kintamayama 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,331 Posted June 29, 2013 Aoiyama as a counter-example to "overhyped" is pretty amusing to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,137 Posted June 29, 2013 Aoiyama as a counter-example to "overhyped" is pretty amusing to me. As is Goueidou.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,501 Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) I'd like to hear more about Goeido's upcoming ozeki run. He only needs 16 wins in Nagoya to make it, right? Edited June 29, 2013 by Benevolance 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botev1921 33 Posted June 30, 2013 What I mean is that you basically turn those "masses" discussions into 3-4 pages with 90% being info about one or two people and half of it having nothing to do with the actual prep but some random chat about Ikioi singing sumo jinku or Osunaarashi not eating again...I might be annoying you, but looking back I see several people expressing interest in Baruto for example and I doubt there is NO info whatsoever on him. Any don't get me started on the over-hyped rikishi - even in Holland one paper wrote about the amazing journey of Osunaarashi...what journey, he is Juryo 9 and has been in Japan for less than 2 years...please, give me a break! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted June 30, 2013 he is Juryo 9 and has been in Japan for less than 2 years...please, give me a break! Sounds pretty impressive to me. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,697 Posted June 30, 2013 A few keiko pictures. Shikoroyama-beya. Seiro in the white keiko mawashi of a sekitori. Homasho trains with Terao, watched over by Terao. =============== Chiganoura-beya. Sewanin Tochinoyama lends his chest to rookie Masaya. Takunishiki and Kaganohana. Masutoo and Yakunoshima. After keiko, Burinosato prepares to do some dohyo maintenance. Masutenryu and Masunosho. =============== Isenoumi-beya (before travelling to Nagoya, so these are at the actual heya). Ikioi and Itadaki. Tatekawa-oyakata (former Sekiwake Tosanoumi) lends his chest. Ikioi and tsukebito Nishikigi. Sonkyo at the end of the session. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted June 30, 2013 Botev...the people doing these translations do so out of the kindness of their hearts, and as Moti said, they only have what is written in the Japanese media to work with. Do you expect them to become investigative journalists in their free time as well?? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted June 30, 2013 If Osunaarashi doesn't lower that center of gravity he will get mercilessly trounced in Makuuchi. I’d agree that Osunaarashi needs to refine his technique, however that’s not uncommon for someone as new to sumo as he is. But his wins last basho again Akiseyama and Endo were impressive, and the notion that he’s going to be “mercilessly trounced” in two or three basho is sorely misguided. Osunaarashi's wins against said rikishi were not impressive. He fell over backwards in his match with Endo and his bout with Akiseyama was forced and (might I say) rather desperate. Endo will own the Sandman in the future. That is my prediction.'Mercilessly trounced' if he doesn't lower his center of gravity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyokuhagyo 528 Posted June 30, 2013 What I mean is that you basically turn those "masses" discussions into 3-4 pages with 90% being info about one or two people and half of it having nothing to do with the actual prep but some random chat about Ikioi singing sumo jinku or Osunaarashi not eating again...I might be annoying you, but looking back I see several people expressing interest in Baruto for example and I doubt there is NO info whatsoever on him. Any don't get me started on the over-hyped rikishi - even in Holland one paper wrote about the amazing journey of Osunaarashi...what journey, he is Juryo 9 and has been in Japan for less than 2 years...please, give me a break! If you're so keen to find more information about a specific 'no-so-over-hyped' rikishi, maybe you should put in some effort yourself. Your best bet is (1) visit their sumo reference profile, (2) switch to the Japanese version of it (click the 日本語 link at the top right), (3) copy the shikona (first few characters before the first space), (4) paste into a google search and set search mode to 'News', (5) pick some recent results and use an online translator on them. If you can make out something newsworthy in the gibberish the translator produces, maybe (or maybe not) someone will be kind enough to give an English summary of the article if you post the link. Either way, you shouldn't feel entitled to get everything you want presented to you on a silver plate (or presented to you at all). You should be grateful for the lot of work the people translating these articles put into this just out of kindness towards the community. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,137 Posted June 30, 2013 What I mean is that you basically turn those "masses" discussions into 3-4 pages with 90% being info about one or two people and half of it having nothing to do with the actual prep but some random chat about Ikioi singing sumo jinku or Osunaarashi not eating again...I might be annoying you, but looking back I see several people expressing interest in Baruto for example and I doubt there is NO info whatsoever on him. Any don't get me started on the over-hyped rikishi - even in Holland one paper wrote about the amazing journey of Osunaarashi...what journey, he is Juryo 9 and has been in Japan for less than 2 years...please, give me a break! There is nothing about Baruto in the Japanese papers which we translate, even though you doubt it. I bet there's more in the Estonian papers but I don't follow them and don't speak the language. OTOH, there are quite a few Estonian fans on the forum, and they sometimes publish a translated article or two, but even they aren't writing, so maybe there just isn't any information. I'd be happy if you proved us wrong by posting a link which I would gladly translate for you. Yeah, you're annoying me, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Maegashira 6 injured Baruto seems to be of no interest at the moment.. As for your last sentence, I don't understand it. Oosunaarashi made one of the fastest runs to sekitorihood in the history of Sumo. Center of gravity or not, that's worth writing about, no? Even in Holland? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,514 Posted June 30, 2013 Mai Asada (elder sister of the skater, also skater) after interviewing Oosunaarashi getting a lecture in shiko stamping. He had 2 more female reporters visiting on that day. (There is about 3 times more on him in the net papers than I summarize) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,514 Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) A chuspo article on another one of my favorite rikishi, Ishiura (23, 173cm, 107kg – the banzuke has still 96, his weight on entering). Sdw17, 14 wins in a row. Eating as much as he can: “As soon as there is space in my stomach, I make sure that I eat. 5 times a day”, about every 2 hours. The weight increase in addition to his characteristic speed and sharp techniques let hopes rise for a continuation of his winning streak since debut, though he says “I'm not particularly aware of the streak.” Top at this is Jokoryu, 27 in a row. The other private deshi of Hakuho, Daikiho: “I think he has the power to get a zensho sandanme yusho.”Hakuho mentioned him in the Haru and Natsu basho yusho interviews.Ishiura: “It made me very happy. To the yokozuna and my supporters, I want to repay those favors by winning”, intending to keep on with that type of performance together with Hakuho. Edited June 30, 2013 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,911 Posted June 30, 2013 Speaking for myself, I'm quite happy to read about any or all of the over-hyped rikishi. All right, I'll own up. I'm more than happy to read about any or all of the rikishi, under-hyped, over-hyped, whatever... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,514 Posted June 30, 2013 First basho as sekitori for Endo (22) with two times 5-2 from ms10 tsukedashi, tied with Wajima, also from Ishikawa pref., for the fastest rise: “I want to do it with the intention of borrowing their chests.” In the Natsu-basho when facing juryo opponents there were scenes of wrong behavior, but his techniques were executed extremely calm. Also impressive was his appearance towards the media with prompt replies. As an amateur it occurred that he had more than 10 bouts a day, now it's 1: “The weight of one bout is big. If I can do the sumo I'm doing at the keiko-ba ...” Switching between moods appears to be his strong point. Oitekaze-oyakata: “His way to win is good, but also his way to lose, and that he is not brooding over losses. (For kachi-koshi in juryo and above) one can afford to lose 7 days.” For a change of mood he eats chocolate, his favorite. If he finds the chance for it, he eats it, to the Nagoya-Basho he “brought about 3 bags”. The juryo promotion is just a transition for him: “Becoming sekitori is not my goal, now that I'm doing it I want to go to the top.” As an orthodox rikishi, rushing up the career ladder ? (Sankei) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 75 Posted June 30, 2013 Osunaarashi is talented, but there are a lot of talented guys in Makuuchi. Half of them had prodigious rises and tons of titles from lower divisions. Aoiyama, Chiyotairyu, Aran, Jokoryu, all rose very quickly through the ranks. Even these phenoms find themselves in deep water at the top division upon arrival. Osunaarashi is huge and very strong and hard working. His size and strength alone ( with basic technique) would be enough to take him through the lower 3 divisions. So yes, I believe that unless he lowers his center of gravity, as soon as he arrives in Makuuchi ( which I have no doubt he will, soon enough) he will find himself getting tossed, thrown and tripped all over the place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites