Nagoya Basho 2013 discussion thread

[yorikiried by fate 2,001]

Fusensho for Kotooshu tomorrow?

[Masumasumasu 902]

Harumafuji was a great Ozeki. Why did he have to become Yokozuna?

[Masumasumasu 902]

Fusensho for Kotooshu tomorrow?

That's what I'm thinking.

[Masumasumasu 902]

Can Ricardo take the yusho?

[Mark.Buckton 68]

Tochiozan has the bushiest sideburns I have ever seen.

didn't see me in a TV drama recently then. Admittedly not mine and stuck on with glue to make me appear 1850s Dutch!

[Doitsuyama 1,178]

I saw quite some interesting bouts last couple of days and as I have some time today, here's a short recap :

day 10

Ms2 : Amuru (4-0) vs Gochozan (4-0) : the Russian steadily on his way to Juryo again & who got it ?

Well, Amuru lost after the mono-ii. I looked a few times at the end of the bout, and I think this was a wrong decision as Gochozan was very much a shini-tai.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

Day 9: 7000 spectators – full house

Today in 1972, Takamiyama won the first yusho by a gaijin.

Musashigawa-oyakata about Musashikuni: “He doesn't need to learn mawashi sumo. Now rikishi with tsuppari sumo have become fewer, so I want him to do power sumo based on pushing.” “He has to do much more keiko.”

HF yesterday went into the zone where the YDC announced they would give him an “encouragement” (gekirei) warning. As expected he continues to lose (and maybe won't use the kyujo exit), so with a likely 6 losses he might get a more stern warning, next one is “chuui”.

Next basho he will be a kind of “kadoban yokozuna”, his career on the line.

Edited July 16, 2013 by Akinomaki

[Mark.Buckton 68]

Day 9: 7000 spectators – full house

Today in 1972, Takamiyama won the first yusho by a gaijin.

Musashigawa-oyakata about Musashikuni: “He doesn't need to learn mawashi sumo. Now rikishi with tsuppari sumo have become fewer, so I want him to do power sumo based on pushing.” “He has do do much more keiko.”

HF yesterday went into the zone where the YDC announced they would give him an “encouragement” (gekirei) warning. As expected he continues to lose (and maybe won't use the kyujo exit), so with a likely 6 losses he might get a more stern warning, next one is “chuui”.

Next basho he will be a kind of “kadoban yokozuna”, his career on the line.

when Taiho won his first yusho he was still subject to the paternal lineage equates to nationality rule meaning that legally he was non-Japanese (until the mid-80s).

[Asashosakari 18,996]

A 3-second bout plus 3 minutes of bonus activities for everybody:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34dkkRLTJ48

Edited July 16, 2013 by Asashosakari

[Asashosakari 18,996]

Musashigawa-oyakata about Musashikuni: “He doesn't need to learn mawashi sumo. Now rikishi with tsuppari sumo have become fewer, so I want him to do power sumo based on pushing.” “He has do do much more keiko.”

He wants him to become Wakakoyu?

[salle 11]

Fusensho for Kotooshu tomorrow?

Why would he?

I know there are conspiracy theories, but how come you put Kotooshu and Harumafuji together into that? Apart from the fact that mongolians use our aplhabet I am not aware of any other connection between them and us. Perhaps common alphabet is enough to build consipracy theory around it :-)

Kotooshu said he feels healthy and he looks healthy for first basho in quite some time. Considering his age and past injuries where any next injury can force imminent intai I could imagine the opposite - strong focus and attempt to go as far as possible this week. We will see tomorrow.

Edited July 16, 2013 by salle

[salle 11]

Can Ricardo take the yusho?

In theory yes, but in practice there is no way to achieve that. In very best case he will make it to kettei-sen, meet Hakuho there and lose with dignity.
Even that is more a dream than reality. Edited July 16, 2013 by Manekineko
quote mishap

[Doitsuyama 1,178]

Fusensho for Kotooshu tomorrow?

Why would he?

I know there are conspiracy theories, but how come you put Kotooshu and Harumafuji together into that? Apart from the fact that mongolians use our aplhabet I am not aware of any other connection between them and us. Perhaps common alphabet is enough to build consipracy theory around it :-)

Kotooshu said he feels healthy and he looks healthy for first basho in quite some time. Considering his age and past injuries where any next injury can force imminent intai I could imagine the opposite - strong focus and attempt to go as far as possible this week. We will see tomorrow.

Calm down. This has nothing at all to do with Kotooshu, he isn't that important. ;) It's all about the somewhat forgotten tradition of a yokozuna going kyujo before accumulating too many losses.

[aderechelsea 124]

he meant that Haru will possibly go kyujo due to his record and avoid a mk or a 8-7.

so since he is in the torikumi ..... a fusensho win for Kotooshu.

EDIT: Doitsuyama already answered as i see.

Edited July 16, 2013 by aderechelsea

[Jaak 7]

Harumafuji has given only 2 gold stars out of the possible 5, and his 4 remaining opponents are ozeki and yokozuna rank, so no danger of costing more gold stars this basho.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

HF asked about kyujo with his worst ever performance as a yokozuna as of day 10: 6-4 “I can't say anything.”. Isegahama-oyakata: “No kyujo”

Oyakata: “His tachi-ai is in pieces, in his feeling he is defeated.”

HF: “The sumo went in the flow of the other. Miserable.”

Goeido winning after 7 losses to HF in a row: “When it turns into a long bout the sumo goes the way of the yokozuna, so I thought to do anything to win.”

Edited July 16, 2013 by Akinomaki

[Bugman 384]

Harumafuji should go Kyujo and return refreshed next time around, from what i understand that's a reasonable thing to do and i hope he does that, i think it would be a great loss for Sumo if he was forced to retire before his time.

Edit* Also, i must confess personal interest in this as i put a big fat X for the Hak-Haru bout in the 21 game. :D

Edited July 16, 2013 by Bugman

[Akinomaki 40,068]

Day 9: 7000 spectators – full house

Today in 1972, Takamiyama won the first yusho by a gaijin.

when Taiho won his first yusho he was still subject to the paternal lineage equates to nationality rule meaning that legally he was non-Japanese (until the mid-80s).

That doesn't qualify as gaijin, just like 2^nd generation Koreans do not (only gaikokujin by law).

[Mark.Buckton 68]

Day 9: 7000 spectators – full house

Today in 1972, Takamiyama won the first yusho by a gaijin.

when Taiho won his first yusho he was still subject to the paternal lineage equates to nationality rule meaning that legally he was non-Japanese (until the mid-80s).

That doesn't qualify as gaijin, just like 2^nd generation Koreans do not (only gaikokujin by law).

that would be correct if Taiho was born in Japan - and afforded "KOKU" seki (nationality to non-Japanese speakers). He was not.

[Mark.Buckton 68]

his words - not mine.

[Asashosakari 18,996]

Another basho, another record for Hakuho.

[Mark.Buckton 68]

Day 9: 7000 spectators – full house

Today in 1972, Takamiyama won the first yusho by a gaijin.

when Taiho won his first yusho he was still subject to the paternal lineage equates to nationality rule meaning that legally he was non-Japanese (until the mid-80s).

That doesn't qualify as gaijin, just like 2^nd generation Koreans do not (only gaikokujin by law).

as I said? Your comments remind me of the Japan born boxer of Korean origin who was Korean every time he lost, but Japanese every time he won. mid 90s - mid 2000s.

Also Hoshino - Chunichi boss, Nataka Hidetoshi, Misora Hibari etc.

[Tsubame 359]

Another basho, another record for Hakuho.

I wonder exactly this question after Hakuhos bout today... thanks for the kind service!

[Asashosakari 18,996]

Another basho, another record for Hakuho.

I wonder exactly this question after Hakuhos bout today... thanks for the kind service!

Shamelessly stolen from Sports Hochi. Without the limitation to basho as yokozuna, Hak is already 21-20 ahead of Chiyonofuji actually.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

Hakuho has also achieved his 39^th double digit result in a row, expanding his own record.

Today it was Shohozan's turn to be beaten by his kind of sumo.