Randomitsuki 2,812 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Oosunarashi still has a lot to learn, Takanoyama is such an unusual rikishi to face. I wonder how many lose forst time against the Czech? Here is a list of Takanoyama's first bouts (hatsu kao) as a sekitori. His record for first bouts is 15-14, much better than his overall record as a sekitori. Oh, and welcome to the Forum! :-) Edited July 17, 2013 by Randomitsuki 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumikumo 0 Posted July 17, 2013 Oosunarashi still has a lot to learn, Takanoyama is such an unusual rikishi to face. I wonder how many lose forst time against the Czech? Here is a list of Takanoyama's first bouts (hatsu kao) as a sekitori. His record for first bouts is 15-14, much better than his overall record as a sekitori. Oh, and welcome to the Forum! :-) Thanks for doing the query and for the welcome. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,996 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) His record for first bouts is 15-14, much better than his overall record as a sekitori. Not significantly so, I'd say. Makuuchi: 26-49 overall, 3-6 hatsu kao Juryo: 59-57 overall, 12-8 hatsu kao Edit: At the end of Haru basho, the juryo numbers were 49-41 (.544) and 8-7 (.533). His numbers look to have improved of late because now he's the veteran and the other guy is the newcomer in most hatsu kao matchups. (And because his overall WL% has been tanked by the current basho.) His first-time meetings with established rikishi didn't go any better than later matches. Edited July 17, 2013 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted July 17, 2013 including makushita division (i find the inclusion of it rather interesting as you find there rikishi worthy to mention) the results are 82 wins and 70 losses in 152 first time meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,484 Posted July 17, 2013 After mulling it over all day, I realized I'm more upset at Harumafuji ruining the yuusho race with his quasi-henka on Kotooshu than I am upset about HF's lackluster performance. It'd be one thing if he'd beat Big K head on. Or hell, had even actually fought Kotooshu. But this...this was just disappointing. Kotooshu was having a great tournament and deserved better. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukonoso 273 Posted July 18, 2013 After mulling it over all day, I realized I'm more upset at Harumafuji ruining the yuusho race with his quasi-henka on Kotooshu than I am upset about HF's lackluster performance. It'd be one thing if he'd beat Big K head on. Or hell, had even actually fought Kotooshu. But this...this was just disappointing. Kotooshu was having a great tournament and deserved better. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 18, 2013 down in Nagoya for interviews set this weekend if anyone is about? Interviews to be released in September mags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted July 18, 2013 I'm more upset at Harumafuji ruining the yuusho race If I were you I'd be more upset with myself for thinking Kotooshu was actually in the yusho race. Cannot a person dream? For the love of Christ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 18, 2013 Endo wins again - now 11-1. Big future this lad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted July 18, 2013 Endo has been quite impressive this basho, even accounting for the fact that he started his matches in the low reaches of Juryo. Is there a chance he'll be given a Makuuchi visit? Should be interesting to see :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryukyushi 2 Posted July 18, 2013 Okinoumi showed some decent, solid sumo, don't you think? Took the lead for once... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted July 18, 2013 Tokitenku is showing impressive composure in bouncing somewhat back from the traditional nightmare week of over-ranked Komusubi... As for Daido, if he is not injured, his loss streak is just stunning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted July 18, 2013 Hakuho looks injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabuko 11 Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Harumafuji is KK! :-D Edited July 18, 2013 by Nabuko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruziklao 34 Posted July 18, 2013 Harumafuji is KK! :-D Sort of. :-P Two more wins would be slightly better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted July 18, 2013 Both Kakuryu and Kotoshogiku had better win their bouts tomorrow, otherwise a MK is not beyond imagination... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,068 Posted July 18, 2013 Day 11: 5200 spectators. Hakuho today hurt his right side, twisted while doing the uwatenage to throw down Kotoshogiku. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,996 Posted July 18, 2013 Both Kakuryu and Kotoshogiku had better win their bouts tomorrow, otherwise a MK is not beyond imagination... Kakuryu gets another maegashira on Day 14. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,068 Posted July 18, 2013 Now even a 12-3 yusho for Kisenosato is possible again, Hakuho not fit may lose all 3 remaining bouts. Next basho another yokozuna run ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,996 Posted July 18, 2013 Now even a 12-3 yusho for Kisenosato is possible again, Hakuho not fit may lose all 3 remaining bouts. Next basho another yokozuna run ? Hakuho hasn't looked completely fit all basho, and he's still 12-0. In any case, I think any 12-3 will carry over now, given that he'd need to beat both yokozuna for it (and avoid losing to Giku on Day 15 yet again). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 124 Posted July 18, 2013 I think Aoiyama has more chances for the yusho than Kise, schedule-wise. but i also think that Hakuho can beat both Oshu and Kise even with an injured right side. He just has to stop compensating for his "lack" of training with uwate or shitate throws.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,652 Posted July 18, 2013 I think Aoiyama has more chances for the yusho than Kise, schedule-wise. but i also think that Hakuho can beat both Oshu and Kise even with an injured right side. He just has to stop compensating for his "lack" of training with uwate or shitate throws.. I'm pretty sure schedule wise Aoiyama will be thrown to the dogs on the last two days. Takayasu tomorrow. In his case, the dogs really don't have to have extra-sharp teeth.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted July 18, 2013 Both Kakuryu and Kotoshogiku had better win their bouts tomorrow, otherwise a MK is not beyond imagination... Kakuryu gets another maegashira on Day 14. I know, but I would assume it would be either the always dangerous Aminishiki, or a highly motivated Aoiyama... Not that he can't beat both of them, but it would be cutting it pretty close... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuyobaku 33 Posted July 18, 2013 Scenario 1: Hakuho wins his one tomorrow, Aoyama falls to Takayasu and Hakuho goes kyujo with yusho in his pocket (has this ever happened?) Scenario 2: Hakuho goes kyujo tommorow, Aoiyama loses to Takayasu and some top guy next day, all of Kotooshu/Kisenosato/Kaisei go 2-1 or worse in remaining days, Hakuho yusho.Scenario 3: Hakuho goes kuyjo tommorow, Kettei-sen with anywhere between 2-5 rikishi (incl.Hakuho), Hakuho comes back to win the kettei-sen! (is this possible rules-wise?)Scenario 4 and what will probably happen. 15-0 Hakuho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted July 18, 2013 Scenario 1: Hakuho wins his one tomorrow, Aoyama falls to Takayasu and Hakuho goes kyujo with yusho in his pocket (has this ever happened?) Wajima definitely did it once. I don't know if it has been done again :-). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
