aderechelsea 125 Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Shohozan hates losing to Goeido. (well ... he looks like he hates losing to anyone ... or like he just hates everybody but you catch my drift) That a great staring contest between those two and what a bitch-slapping at the end from the "pride of Fukuoka" !!! the final slap while Goeido was out and falling on his rear end was priceless. I am adding this one in "my favourites" in Youtube. the most enjoyable (at least for me) bout of the basho thus far. Edited July 11, 2013 by aderechelsea 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torquato 1,075 Posted July 11, 2013 Sounds like injury-day. Enshunada WSd75 also seems to got severely injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted July 11, 2013 Torn thigh muscle perhaps? He was essentially doing the matawari with most of Aoiyama's weight on his shoulders... Definitely a whole lot more painful-looking than Tochinoshin's injury. :-(Reminds me of something-I think it was either Hayateumi or Takanowaka that was injured in the same way and never came really back after that.Wakanosato's downfall started in the same way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,773 Posted July 11, 2013 Takayasu is continuing to torment the top - getting the gyoji pointing reversal (sashi-chigai) after mono-ii, I'm impressed more and more by him this basho. In spite of mostly losing to Kisenosato in keiko, he seems to have profited the most from training with Kise. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,773 Posted July 11, 2013 That should definitely be the end for Kisenosato's run. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted July 11, 2013 and logic wins in the end. I would enjoy a basho without the words "Kisenosato" and "Yokozuna" in the same sentence. Well ... if "lost to the" connects them i cannot complain at all. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,773 Posted July 11, 2013 Tokitenku on the other hand impresses this basho with spectacular(ly weak) looking losses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 467 Posted July 11, 2013 Tokitenku on the other hand impresses this basho with spectacular(ly weak) looking losses. this loss reminds me of one of hayateumi when, i guess futeno, took him out of the air right down the dohyo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted July 11, 2013 Takekaze did catch Hayateumi in mid-air at some point .... As did Aminishiki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,505 Posted July 11, 2013 This is going to sound like criticism but it's not (because I would never have the guts to get onto a doyho and go mano a mano with 150kg of rikishi on the other side and I admire anyone who does, even the rikishi I don't support). Instead it's an observation about two rikishi. Okinoumi looks like has the build and the talent and the skill to be a superstar. But as soon as his opponent gets him going backwards he seems to think "that's it, he's got me" and just gets weakly pushed out. He did it today, as soon as he got within a foot of the rope you could see his brain saying, I've lost it, and he gave up and was just ushered meekly out. He does it time and again. But I see so many rikishi get to that rope and just fight and fight and end up winning. A couple did it today. In contrast Masunoyama has none of that talent but he goes 150% every time trying desperately to win, even though at least half the time he doesn't. So my conclusion is that what got Okinoumi to the level he's at is talent, but not heart or desire, and what got Masunoyama to where he is is heart, and desire, but not necessarily talent. And so even though I like him, I find myself getting mad at Okinoumi because I can't help thinking he's just wasting what many other rikishi would kill for, just sheer raw talent to go with the desire. Imagine what Toyonoshima, of Masunoyama, or Takanoyama, or any of the other guys who are in sumo just for the love of it, would do with the body of Okinoumi, had they had the fortune to be born with it? Proof (once again, as if we needed any) that life just isn't fair. Oh, and Kise vs Chiyotairayu had a future Yokozuna in it, it just wasn't the guy who lost. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,947 Posted July 11, 2013 Kyokutenho needs to teach a class on how to avoid injuries.Kisenosato needs to turn up for the section on how to preserve the few inches of soft issue round the eyes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,049 Posted July 11, 2013 Okinoumi looks like has the build and the talent and the skill to be a superstar. But as soon as his opponent gets him going backwards he seems to think "that's it, he's got me" and just gets weakly pushed out.You think so? http://youtu.be/0CO-dlldapQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabuko 11 Posted July 11, 2013 What is Kisenosato's role in the tournament? Unofficial tsunatori? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,651 Posted July 11, 2013 I think Okinoumi was just surprised by how quickly Kyokutenho seized the opportunity. Take a look at Okinoumi's feet, he had basically no traction as he was being moved back. Nobody's going to be able to offer much resistance in that situation. If anything that's either a tactical or a technical mistake, not lack of effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,773 Posted July 11, 2013 Torn thigh muscle perhaps? He was essentially doing the matawari with most of Aoiyama's weight on his shoulders... Definitely a whole lot more painful-looking than Tochinoshin's injury. :-( Kokonoe-oyakata about Chiyonokuni: „Perhaps a torn thigh muscle. He no longer will be able to compete.“ - so far „injury to his left leg“ is the talk from Kyodo. Tochinoshin has an „injury to his right knee“, he had an MRI check. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,773 Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Day 4: 4200 spectators. For those interested, Nikkan and Sponichi had a detailed schedule of Oosunaarashi's first Ramadan day – I won't translate that. Kotoyuuki looks determined not to drop to juryo again (for the rest of the decade) – he also impresses me, but his type of aggressiveness prohibits him from becoming one of my favorites. Kotooshu is a positive surprise, which makes me happy, as he IS one of my favorites. Another one of those continues to disappoint me though, Goeido, making forget that he ever started an ozeki run. Edited July 11, 2013 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torabayama 51 Posted July 11, 2013 Shohozan hates losing to Goeido. (well ... he looks like he hates losing to anyone ... or like he just hates everybody but you catch my drift) That a great staring contest between those two and what a bitch-slapping at the end from the "pride of Fukuoka" !!! the final slap while Goeido was out and falling on his rear end was priceless. I am adding this one in "my favourites" in Youtube. the most enjoyable (at least for me) bout of the basho thus far. Ditto here. I loved this bout and the long stare-down that preceded it reminding me of sumo days of yore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torquato 1,075 Posted July 11, 2013 I won't translate that better not to. Just skipped over it (whithout understanding every kanji) and... gosh... what pursuite of trivia, anybody could invent... However, it shows pretty much how much attention this guy gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 11, 2013 Kotooshu is a positive surprise, which makes me happy, as he IS one of my favorites. Another one of those continues to disappoint me though, Goeido, making forget that he ever started an ozeki run. Completely agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted July 11, 2013 Shohozan hates losing to Goeido. (well ... he looks like he hates losing to anyone ... or like he just hates everybody but you catch my drift) That a great staring contest between those two and what a bitch-slapping at the end from the "pride of Fukuoka" !!! the final slap while Goeido was out and falling on his rear end was priceless. I am adding this one in "my favourites" in Youtube. the most enjoyable (at least for me) bout of the basho thus far. Shohozan won that bout right there just by eyeballing. You could see Goeido trying to turn away a few times, allowing the Shoh man to psyche him clean out of the fight. I remember Jimmy Connors doing exactly the same thing to Ivan Lendl at the U.S. Open and the Czech just crumbled. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Very good bouts on day 5. One of the best parts was seeing Tokitenku's botched leg sweep, a fall so hilarious that will prompt him to think a bit before using it again. The problem I see with Okinoumi is that he is overrated, I guess. His frame is very good for a rikishi, he is also very strong, but he is simply not that talented. It is someone who spent a little more than 4 full years in the lower divisions, who we are talking about. And that having started at 19 years old. His sumo will eventually take him to Sekiwake, and he is good for one or two good basho there, but not ozeki is just too much. Takayasu defeated Kakuryu à la Kakuryu. Edited July 11, 2013 by shumitto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 675 Posted July 11, 2013 Shohozan hates losing to Goeido. (well ... he looks like he hates losing to anyone ... or like he just hates everybody but you catch my drift) That a great staring contest between those two and what a bitch-slapping at the end from the "pride of Fukuoka" !!! the final slap while Goeido was out and falling on his rear end was priceless. I am adding this one in "my favourites" in Youtube. the most enjoyable (at least for me) bout of the basho thus far. Without a doubt one of the most impressive ass-kickings I've ever seen at this level... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted July 11, 2013 I remember Jimmy Connors doing exactly the same thing to Ivan Lendl at the U.S. Open and the Czech just crumbled. It's a bit harsh on Lendl to compare him to Goeido in this respect. Lendl himself was a mean MF, so kudos to Connors for having the guts. As for Goeido: even my grandmother could stare him down. And she's dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukonoso 273 Posted July 11, 2013 Dang, I had just about given up on Kotooshu ever surprising me but that winning move was a thing of beauty. Dare I get my hopes up for a better than average showing for him this basho? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted July 11, 2013 As for Goeido: even my grandmother could stare him down.And she's dead. Thriller! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
