Nagoya Basho 2013 discussion thread

[Nabuko 11]

Why all those whistles after the Chiyotairyu win ? The front row people covering their heads with their hands was looking funny. That was the kuso-chikara for sure.

I have watched carefully and it is quite clear that Harumafuji stepped out before Chiotairyu. Chiotairyu is so powerful.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

New basho promo on the feed today, now devoid of any mention of Kisenosato's tsunatori (and with much less Kise in general).

The one for the Aki basho after the last bout ? Still the last (and main) picture is Kisenosato.

[Kuroyama 715]

Why all those whistles after the Chiyotairyu win ? The front row people covering their heads with their hands was looking funny. That was the kuso-chikara for sure.

I have watched carefully and it is quite clear that Harumafuji stepped out before Chiotairyu. Chiotairyu is so powerful.

Maybe they were disappointed in Harumafuji's performance. I can't make out what he was trying to do with that tachi-ai.

[Asashosakari 18,996]

New basho promo on the feed today, now devoid of any mention of Kisenosato's tsunatori (and with much less Kise in general).

The one for the Aki basho after the last bout ? Still the last (and main) picture is Kisenosato.

Ahh, darn, so much for looking at it just once. I was sure it was just a new one for Nagoya.

[Nabuko 11]

Maybe they were disappointed in Harumafuji's performance. I can't make out what he was trying to do with that tachi-ai.

Someting from Takanoyama playbook like tottari.

[Kintamayama 44,652]

Why all those whistles after the Chiyotairyu win ? The front row people covering their heads with their hands was looking funny. That was the kuso-chikara for sure.

I think they were delighted whistles. Everyone got their money's worth today, win or lose.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

Day 7: 7300 spectators – full house (day 1 was it with 6900).

Today with straight kachi-koshi no. 28 Hakuho expands his record for that too.

[yorikiried by fate 2,001]

Reasons why I occasionally still enjoy watching sumo:

• Kotoyuki
• Kaisei
• Aoiyama
• Ikioi (!)
• Chiyotairyu
• Tochiozan (!)
• Takayasu
• Shohozan
• Myogiryu
• Kakuryu (!)

Could they please have a division of their own?

[Akinomaki 40,068]

Chiyotairyu has strict orders from Kokonoe-oyakata: each day teppou and shiko each 500 times, to build a body that not gets injured (what orders did he give Chiyonokuni and Chiyootori?). Also to support his newly created family he can't afford to have several kyujo and drop out of the paid ranks. Tomorrow against:

Kotooshu: “The past 2 basho just were too bad suffering from injuries. This basho with all my strength is going on good.”

Edited July 14, 2013 by Akinomaki

[ALAKTORN 346]

I’ve got a question: what’s jūryō’s Endo’s name, precisely? Endo, or Endō (Endou)?

Anyway, I’m not sure if he’s ever been mentioned in here, but he’s really impressive. Much more so than Ōsunaarashi.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

I’ve got a question: what’s jūryō’s Endo’s name, precisely? Endo, or Endō (Endou)?

Anyway, I’m not sure if he’s ever been mentioned in here, but he’s really impressive. Much more so than Ōsunaarashi.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=12055&l=j : Endou

All posts mentioning Endo in this thread

[Asashosakari 18,996]

I’ve got a question: what’s jūryō’s Endo’s name, precisely? Endo, or Endō (Endou)?

Anyway, I’m not sure if he’s ever been mentioned in here, but he’s really impressive. Much more so than Ōsunaarashi.

Well, he's had about 5 more years of professional-quality coaching than Osunaarashi. And most top-level collegiate rikishi look impressive up to lower juryo - and still many of them turn only into Takekaze or Tosayutaka these days. (I guess Jokoryu and Daikiho are rapidly playing themselves into that category, too.)

[Asashosakari 18,996]

In any case, as Fay insinuated earlier today, the next presumed Japanese super-prospect is currently ranked Sandanme 55 East.

[shumitto 418]

I am not following the lower divisions as close as I would like this time due to some schedule constraints, but today is Sunday so there is some time to catch up.

Iwasaki is doing fine not only for his 4-0 record, but also his speed at the tachiai and the general coherence of his moves. Maybe he will have in Wakamisho in a few days a good test for his skills. Going in the opposite direction is 0-4 Hochiyama, but I am not surprised and I think no one should be. There was very little left in the tank the last time I saw him, which was in May.

Juryo is kind of a puzzle for me this time. Homarefuji displayed some aggressive sumo in his few Makuuchi wins last basho and I thought that in Juryo would do wonders for him. Nope. Azumaryu is also doing poorly, but I shouldn't be expecting much more from someone who can be such an easy and slow target. Profiting from the lack of top performers are the likes of Tenkaiho, Homasho and Satoyama, sharing the co-lead. Endo should take it, but I am yet to watch all of his bouts.

Aran's weakness is a sign some underlying injury; Daido's poor perfomance maybe is, maybe not.

With what we have in the meatgrinder and what I are likely to have in the next basho (Aoiyama, Ikioi, Toyonoshima) we are probably heading to a period of some more ozeki dominance. In the last basho all but Kotooshu had double-digit records, and maybe from that will come.

[shumitto 418]

In any case, as Fay insinuated earlier today, the next presumed Japanese super-prospect is currently ranked Sandanme 55 East.

It is not simply a case of a strong guy running over the competition; rather it has some solid 'basics' for someone so young.

[Bugman 384]

I'm a Hak fan but his winning consistency is so high that even an amazing rikishi like Harumafuji is sometimes made to look like having been a questionable choice for Yokozuna-hood, had Harumafuji stayed as a brilliant Ozeki that had the odd bad-basho then perhaps hopes of Kisenosato becoming Yokozuna would not have been so high.

If Hak wasn't there, Haru and kise could have been rival Yokozuna and the Ozeki under them wouldn't look so weak when compared to them either, maybe it's Hak's brilliance which is the factor warping everything else in Sumo out of shape.

Anyway i end with my usual annoucnement of me not knowing what i'm talking about, just sharing my thoughts.

Edited July 14, 2013 by Bugman

[Tochinofuji 377]

In any case, as Fay insinuated earlier today, the next presumed Japanese super-prospect is currently ranked Sandanme 55 East.

It is not simply a case of a strong guy running over the competition; rather it has some solid 'basics' for someone so young.

He looks to have great footwork, ring sense, and balance/stability to me. Definitely looking forward to watching his matches over the next few basho!

[Asashosakari 18,996]

I thought somebody else would mention this bout, but I guess I'll have to. ;-)

[Mark.Buckton 68]

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sad to see Oosunaarashi's main backers in Egypt post this image yesterday.

[aderechelsea 124]

this is priceless .... (In jonokuchi...)

[specialweek 2 136]

No fear from Oshio, all 67kg of him.

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Reminds me a bit of my personal favourite. Best ending to a bout ever:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/lFUWDKBDxs4?autoplay=1

[Asashosakari 18,996]

A nice "normal" big vs small matchup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8e3rfj0Lxc

Edited July 15, 2013 by Asashosakari

[Akinomaki 40,068]

Gagamaru has completely lost any drive. Being pushed out like that by Ikioi.

Today Masunoyama looked his old self again, Sokokurai may be at the limit – I think he will lose some more in the second half and miss kachi-koshi – but if lucky staying in makuuchi.

[Akinomaki 40,068]

I wonder if those “one more/again” chants have some influence on the decision to give a tori-naoshi when there is some room for that for the judges.

Edited July 15, 2013 by Akinomaki