Video Stream -

[Kintamayama 45,252]

  On 17/09/2013 at 19:02, torquato said:

  On 17/09/2013 at 12:57, Asashosakari said:

I'm more concerned about accidentally killing the recording because I've tapped the pause or stop button in VLC out of habit.

That's a good point.

Indeed, if done as I suggested above, stopping or pausing VLC also stops saving the stream data to file. Even worse, resuming vlc then might cause the data already being saved to be overwritten.

I'm just reluctand to download data twice which is already there and should (can?) better be reused.

Still haven't found the smartest way of doing it. Well, at least for me ;-)

  On 17/09/2013 at 12:57, Asashosakari said:

I'd rather just save the original stream and do the conversion afterwards

Yes, off course that's somehow safer.

I was mainly thinking about kintamayama, because the ts file he was referring to isn't the original file anyway, but a superfluous transcoding step in between...

:-)

I'd love it if someone can explain to me how to replace .ts with .asf. That's all I need.

Additionally, I've been recording for three years and never accidentally pushed the pause button on vlc. And I am not the concentrated kind of being-I'm all over the place.

Edited September 17, 2013 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 45,252]

  On 16/09/2013 at 22:17, Huschnu said:

@kintamayama

Have you tried the youtube video editor yet? https://www.youtube.com/editor

It works well with ts files and most (simple) editing jobs can be done. And there is a very good preview player.

But you must upload all source videos first.

Exactly-I prefer to upload everything in its final look without touching it when it's online, except for a few exceptions, like today..

[Kintamayama 45,252]

  On 14/09/2013 at 22:03, araibira said:

  On 14/09/2013 at 21:57, Kintamayama said:

I'm screwed.. I hope Araibira is more tech-savvy than me.

The stream works great for me. What kind of machine are you using, and are you using an updated version of VLC?

I just saw this-that was my problem-my VLC was an old version. Upgraded and all fine.

[Kintamayama 45,252]

  On 15/09/2013 at 23:44, Asashosakari said:

  On 15/09/2013 at 23:13, Kintamayama said:

I have switched to recording 5 bouts in each batch (around 4 batches per day)-much quicker to work with (I can tell when a bout starts just by looking at the audio ) and this way WMM doesn't crash on me anymore. But this conversion thingy is cramping my style AND biting off another nice chunk of my free time.

Which program do you use for the conversion? And are you outright reencoding the video stream? Just putting an AVI container around it shouldn't take that much time. (Although I don't know if WMM will accept an AVI with an H264 video stream...it's a bit of a messy concept AFAIK.)

I have many of them. I find the best one is Any DVD Converter Pro. Quick and clean and does every format including my washing machine. I am reencoding, yes, otherwise no worky.

Edited September 17, 2013 by Kintamayama

[torquato 1,075]

  On 17/09/2013 at 19:54, Kintamayama said:

I'd love it if someone can explain to me how to replace .ts with .asf. That's all I need.

In this case a simple change from

--sout file/ts:<DESTINATION FOLDER>\stream.ts

to

--sout='#duplicate{dst=display,dst="standard{mux=asf,dst=<DESTINATION FOLDER>\stream.asf,access=file}"}'

in the configuration file should do it.

<DESTINATION FOLDER> of course is the file directory path where you want to store the stream.

Assuming you do it as Hushnu suggested in this post http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=31824&page=2#entry247463 in the first place, what I still don't really know.

Warning: Not tested on a Windows box myself yet (but it works on unix).

Edited September 17, 2013 by torquato

[yorikiried by fate 2,028]

Simple, Simply and Just

are my absolute favorites when they come within statements from either my wife or tech-wise people!

I'm neither speaking for Moti nor even myself, but there might be people out there who might struggle with the concepts of "configuration file" or "directory path".

Just sayin'...

[And if the situation with the stream will have consolidated with people establishing "best practices" for this or that, I'm totally prepared to help with the translation from tech to English. I'm super serial.]

Edited September 18, 2013 by yorikiried by fate

[Asashosakari 19,442]

  On 17/09/2013 at 20:48, torquato said:

In this case a simple change from

--sout file/ts:<DESTINATION FOLDER>\stream.ts

to

--sout='#duplicate{dst=display,dst="standard{mux=asf,dst=<DESTINATION FOLDER>\stream.asf,access=file}"}'

in the configuration file should do it.

Does the .asf container support AAC audio streams? That seems to be the major sticking point here, as it (probably) also kills my earlier idea of just having VLC create an .avi container. VLC will play it, of course, as it plays just about anything, but I'm not so sure about Kinta's WMM. Can't hurt trying, I guess, but I'm skeptical.

[Asashosakari 19,442]

Just tried it with last night's recordings (this is where having the original files comes in handy ;-)) and Windows 7's Windows Live Movie Maker doesn't handle remuxed asf files at all - even if it's just the video stream without the AAC audio, so I guess it chokes on H264 encoded video as well. Can't imagine it'll be different for the older XP version, so I guess Moti's stuck with fully reencoding the videos before they're useable...

[Huschnu 5]

  On 17/09/2013 at 21:58, Asashosakari said:

Just tried it with last night's recordings (this is where having the original files comes in handy ;-)) and Windows 7's Windows Live Movie Maker doesn't handle remuxed asf files at all - even if it's just the video stream without the AAC audio, so I guess it chokes on H264 encoded video as well. Can't imagine it'll be different for the older XP version, so I guess Moti's stuck with fully reencoding the videos before they're useable...

H264 appears to be the problem. Windows Movie Maker 2.6 (should be very close to the xp version) can't handle it on its own. I was able to import H264 with an external demuxer and decoder but nothing else seams to work from there on. On the other hand Windows Movie Maker 2012 (I am on Windows 8) can handle the .ts file recorded via livestreamer+vlc pretty well. But I would be surprised if there is a way to run Windows Movie Maker 2012 on windows xp.

[Asashosakari 19,442]

The bitrate of the video portion of the stream is back down to 300 kbit today.

[Kintamayama 45,252]

  On 17/09/2013 at 21:58, Asashosakari said:

so I guess Moti's stuck with fully reencoding the videos before they're useable...

I'm going on an adventurous journey today. We shall see..

[Jakusotsu 5,986]

Skimming through all these tech notes, I know why I gave up on something "simple" as video editing years ago. One can't give enough praise to Moti and Araibira.

[Asashosakari 19,442]

  On 18/09/2013 at 01:42, Asashosakari said:

The bitrate of the video portion of the stream is back down to 300 kbit today.

Next development in the "we'll get it right eventually" saga - right at the beginning of makuuchi today my recording got disconnected and when it came back on, it was a 500 kbit stream under a different name (300 kbit = "360p", 500 kbit = "live"). Maybe that's their new method for combatting the quality-gets-worse-later-in-the-day problem.

[Asashosakari 19,442]

Looks like I've finally found a container format that a) doesn't desync the sound [converting to AVI does that], b) doesn't inhibit cropping by showing the wrong video duration in Avidemux [that's what the original FLV files do], and c) doesn't inhibit cropping by producing incomplete cuts [FLVs converted to MP4 do that]. Hallelujah MKV format. Let's see how long it lasts...

[yorikiried by fate 2,028]

MKV always rocks!

[Asashosakari 19,442]

Day 5: Started off with the 300 kbit stream for a few minutes, then they turned it off again and are now broadcasting in 500 kbit.

[Gernobono 467]

  On 18/09/2013 at 23:44, Asashosakari said:

Day 5: Started off with the 300 kbit stream for a few minutes, then they turned it off again and are now broadcasting in 500 kbit.

grrrrrrrr.....

would like to have it in 300kbit

ustream is ruuning as app on my phone in the office and is sucking in those mbit of my non-flat-connection.....

Edited September 19, 2013 by Gernobono

[torquato 1,075]

  On 19/09/2013 at 05:10, Gernobono said:

would like to have it in 300kbit

ustream is ruuning as app on my phone in the office and is sucking in those mbit of my non-flat-connection.....

You could chose the 'mobile_240p (worst)' version. This stream is intended for mobile devices.

Edited September 19, 2013 by torquato

[Gernobono 467]

  On 19/09/2013 at 08:54, torquato said:

  On 19/09/2013 at 05:10, Gernobono said:

would like to have it in 300kbit

ustream is ruuning as app on my phone in the office and is sucking in those mbit of my non-flat-connection.....

You could chose the 'mobile_240p (worst)' version. This stream is intended for mobile devices.

i cannot find this option in the app

it is only there in the browser

and browser is no good as my standard one does not support flash

[Asashosakari 19,442]

  On 19/09/2013 at 08:54, torquato said:

  On 19/09/2013 at 05:10, Gernobono said:

would like to have it in 300kbit

ustream is ruuning as app on my phone in the office and is sucking in those mbit of my non-flat-connection.....

You could chose the 'mobile_240p (worst)' version. This stream is intended for mobile devices.

That's a separate issue, actually - from what I saw last night, it seems they've bumped the 240p stream (both browser and mobile version) to 500 kbit as well. (Laughing...)

[Asashosakari 19,442]

The video quality lottery continues...

Day 8: Started off as 300 kbit, interrupted and changed to 500 kbit after a couple of bouts

Day 9: 500 kbit all the way through

Day 10: 360p stream gone altogether, the only choice is 240p / 300 kbit right now. Sigh.

[yade 14]

I was trying to watch the last bouts on ustream and was shocked because of extending ads. In fact I miss the hakuho bout half way. Instead I was honored to see a german ad.... As I understand correctly adfree watching is minimum 149 $ per month. I dont want to believe that watching sumo is only possible under that condition... :-O​

Edited September 25, 2013 by yade

[Asojima 2,874]

  On 25/09/2013 at 09:06, yade said:

I was trying to watch the last bouts on ustream and was shocked because of extending ads. In fact I miss the hakuho bout half way. Instead I was honored to see a german ad.... As I understand correctly adfree watching is minimum 149 $ per month. I dont want to believe that watching sumo is only possible under that condition... :-O​

Google Adblock Plus, and download the free ad blocker for the browser you use.

[yade 14]

I use chrome and adblock, everything was updated so I don't know what exact happend. I will have a close look tomorrow (and hopefully I dont have to tear my hair again ) (Thinking in depth...)

[yorikiried by fate 2,028]

  On 25/09/2013 at 09:06, yade said:

As I understand correctly adfree watching is minimum 149 $ per month.

I saw that it's 99$, but still I'm seriously ROFLing.

Talk about failed marketing plots...