Hakuho changed his dohyo-iri style

[Akinomaki 40,790]

Hakuho will get a keshō-mawashi set from the Nishiarai-daishi temple, each at least 10 million Yen worth, with a design by Japanese painter Toshio Matsuo (87).

a dohyo-iri with it there is in October.

The dohyo-iri is tomorrow – will he show a correct dohyo-iri then ?

Hakuho received a rare warning from the judges department, via the oyakata, for omission of movements in the yokozuna dohyo-iri.

The shiko stamping after the slow rise: the right hand at the side, the left arm going up, flipping over the hand and a shiko stamping with the right, then the same to the other side. Hakuho at the right side shiko is about OK, but for the left he shortens the raising of the right hand.

Even spectators pointed it out, he may receive a warning directly from kyokai executives.

starting at around 1:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yWOLvEp6cw

Edited October 4, 2013 by Akinomaki

[Tsubame 368]

Intresting point... sometimes you have to look carefully to find something to critisizes about Hakuho.

[kuroimori 1,634]

Hakuho will get a keshō-mawashi set from the Nishiarai-daishi temple, each at least 10 million Yen worth, with a design by Japanese painter Toshio Matsuo (87).

a dohyo-iri with it there is in October.

The dohyo-iri is tomorrow – will he show a correct dohyo-iri then ?

Hakuho received a rare warning from the judges department, via the oyakata, for omission of movements in the yokozuna dohyo-iri.

The shiko stamping after the slow rise: the right hand at the side, the left arm going up, flipping over the hand and a shiko stamping with the right, then the same to the other side. Hakuho at the right side shiko is about OK, but for the left he shortens the raising of the right hand.

Even spectators pointed it out, he may receive a warning directly from kyokai executives.

starting at around 1:35

I think he is in serious trouble now... *trying hard to keep a grim face*

[krindel 675]

Hakuho will get a keshō-mawashi set from the Nishiarai-daishi temple, each at least 10 million Yen worth, with a design by Japanese painter Toshio Matsuo (87).

a dohyo-iri with it there is in October.

The dohyo-iri is tomorrow – will he show a correct dohyo-iri then ?

Hakuho received a rare warning from the judges department, via the oyakata, for omission of movements in the yokozuna dohyo-iri.

The shiko stamping after the slow rise: the right hand at the side, the left arm going up, flipping over the hand and a shiko stamping with the right, then the same to the other side. Hakuho at the right side shiko is about OK, but for the left he shortens the raising of the right hand.

Even spectators pointed it out, he may receive a warning directly from kyokai executives.

starting at around 1:35

For a punishment, they should have the Oyakata All-Stars give him dance lessons

Edited October 4, 2013 by krindel

[Benevolance 2,511]

Obviously, Harumafuji should retire over this.

[Kuroyama 715]

kuroimori, on 04 Oct 2013 - 12:08, said:

I think he is in serious trouble now... *trying hard to keep a grim face*

Well, he *is* a repeat offender. Clearly incorrigible.

[Akinomaki 40,790]

The dohyo-iri was with Tokitenku as tachi-mochi and tsuyu-harai Toyoshima today, about 2000 came to watch.

Hakuho: “It went well, didn't it.” (the movements?)

He plans to first use the set in a basho on the first day of the Hatsu basho.

Posing with related officials.

[Akinomaki 40,790]

Apparently Hakuho won't change his recent short-cut style. He changed to that to imitate Futabayama's dohyo-iri. Officially the movements are not strictly regulated.

Next dohyo-iri is at the Meiji shrine on the 7^th.

[Yubinhaad 11,761]

A few more from Hakuho's dohyo-iri at Nishiarai Daishi.

[Akinomaki 40,790]

Hakuho' movements on the 7^th will be closely watched by kyokai officials. Miyagino-oyakata: “Likely we have to correct it little by little.”

Edited October 6, 2013 by Akinomaki

[ronnie 221]

Hakuho' movements on the 7^th will be closely watched by kyokai officials. Miyagino-oyakata “Likely we have to correct it little by little.”

I find it curious that former rikishi, who in their own career were never good enough to be required to perform a yokozuna doyho-iri, can consider themselves qualified to criticize a dai yokozuna. Miyagino himself only got as high as M13 and only had 24 basho as a sekitori (where did he get the cash for a kabu?), fewer basho than Hakuho has yusho.

[Orion 431]

Apparently Hakuho won't change his recent short-cut style. He changed to that to imitate Futabayama's dohyo-iri. Officially the movements are not strictly regulated.

Next dohyo-iri is at the Meiji shrine on the 7^th.

Hakuho is doing movements like the great Futabayama and the kyokai does not like it? Futabayama's dohyo-iri was not correct? Did someone change the movements from the way Futabayama used to do them and now these movements are considered the correct movements?

I have no problem with Hakuho going back and copying the dohyo-iri of a great Yokozuna. IMHO the kyokai needs to get a life.

I have the greatest liking, as well as admiration, for Hakuho, but the recent changes in his dohyo-iri have been worrying me. In particular the jerkiness in the seriagari is more like the comic bumps-and-grinds act put on by Sadanoyama (then Dewanoumi) when he was showing the newly-promoted Mienoumi how _not_ to do it. And, I repeat, this is a recent development, and a departure from the impressive Futabayama dohyo-iri he adopted not long after becoming a yokozuna.

Orion

[Mark.Buckton 68]

few hundred metres up the road from me, 10 mins from Tamanoi is Daishi.

Was gutted about not being able to attend but had actor interview, and coverage of basketball and J1 football on the same day!

Anyone getting to Daishi should try the bunka fry if still sold!

[Naganoyama 5,948]

Intresting point... sometimes you have to look carefully to find something to critisizes about Hakuho.

Only sometimes?

[Akinomaki 40,790]

Hakuho (and HF) had 2 dohyo-iri today, at the Meiji shrine and at the rikishi championships.
He sticks to the short-cut style and gives a reason to the effect that it's also for making the dohyo-iri less straining. Head shimpan Isegehama was not amused.

Tachi-mochi Kaisei, tsuyu-harai Kyokutenho

Harumafuji's Meiji shrine dohyo-iri had a mix-up with the attendants: tsuyu-harai Tokitenku (in for the kyujo Aminishiki) should have been on the left side of the yokozuna and had gone to the right, where tachi-mochi Takarafuji should have been.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Akinomaki

[krindel 675]

He sticks to the short-cut style and gives a reason to the effect that it's also for making the dohyo-iri less straining. Head shimpan Isegehama was not amused by the explanation.

I find the public character AND the continuation of this "debate" very weird. I would assume it would be sorted out with a meeting of Isegahama + anyone else involved with Miyagino and Hakuho without having to resort to involving the press.

I hope it is not a half baked ploy to create the semblance of friction between Hakuho and the NSK in anticipation of the difficult situation that is more or less inevitably coming 4 yusho from now...

[Bugman 384]

He sticks to the short-cut style and gives a reason to the effect that it's also for making the dohyo-iri less straining. Head shimpan Isegehama was not amused by the explanation.

I find the public character AND the continuation of this "debate" very weird. I would assume it would be sorted out with a meeting of Isegahama + anyone else involved with Miyagino and Hakuho without having to resort to involving the press.

I hope it is not a half baked ploy to create the semblance of friction between Hakuho and the NSK in anticipation of the difficult situation that is more or less inevitably coming 4 yusho from now...

Do you mean because he's going to catch up with Taiho? Or is it Chiyonofuji? I'm a bit confused by what you mean krindel.

[Benevolance 2,511]

Hakuho has enough experience cutting hair lately, he could always enlist as a tokoyama.

[Akinomaki 40,790]

Apparently the shimpan department has given up and will let Hakuho keep his style, no warning was given yesterday. Both head judges just showed their discontent, but Isegehama doesn't want to make it a big issue and Kagamiyama gave the classic “shikata nai” (it can't be helped – when no correction occurs after telling the shisho).

Edited October 8, 2013 by Akinomaki

[bettega 431]

Ok, indulge me a little - but is too impossible, too anathema to think that Hakuho may be developing (with time) his own style? If he gets above Taiho, that could be acepted?

[Kuroyama 715]

bettega, on 08 Oct 2013 - 16:37, said:

Ok, indulge me a little - but is too impossible, too anathema to think that Hakuho may be developing (with time) his own style? If he gets above Taiho, that could be acepted?

That depends, perhaps, on whether it's seen as aesthetically pleasing. It's hard for me to compare. The only dohyo-iri of Futabayama I've ever seen in toto was the one he performed at his danpatsu-shiki, which is not hard to find on YouTube, and it may not have been exactly as he was accustomed to doing it on more routine occasions.

Futabayama did indeed "abbreviate" his dohyo-iri in this way, but as a whole he did it so gracefully and with such impassiveness it was almost hypnotic.

Edited October 9, 2013 by Kuroyama