Guess Kisenosato's Aite (Kotooshu) - January 2014

[Jejima 1,415]

Rank in order who you would like to be our selectee.... Just a couple of days to do so.

S1W Kotooshu

K1E Myogiryu

M2E Chiyotairyu

Edited January 7, 2014 by Jejima

[Profomisakari 873]

M3e Aoiyama

S1W Kotooshu

M3w Toyohibiki

Not ever the old patterns!

Profomisakari

[chishafuwaku 476]

1) Kotooshu

2) Chiyotairyu

3) Myogiryu

chishafuwaku

[Yaochoyama 1]

It seems like we've been fixated on komusubis and M2s lately, how about putting up a M1 or M3 for voting next time. I'm not big on sekiwakes, but it's been awhile, especially with only 3 ozekis:

Kotooshu

Myogiryu

Chiyotairyu

[Jejima 1,415]

Kotooshu it is!

Thanks to all for the comments about changing aspects of the game. For the time being (until I have had a proper chance to think about it), we'll stick with the existing rules. Please keep the discussion going about possible changes. In the current times with declining numbers of sumo games players, I am very wary about making this game any more complicated (or time-consuming) then it currently is.....

[Jejima 1,415]

'Guest gyojis' (Sign of approval...) are requested to continue with their excellent help this basho.

Announcing the January 2014 edition of Guess Kisenosato's Aite.... But for Kotooshu....

All you have to do is guess S1W Kotooshu's opponent each day, before the torikumi comes out. If you guess correctly, you get a shiroboshi. This is surprisingly more fun (or frustrating) and challenging than it should be. It also gets you to think a bit more about the 'inner-workings' of sumo.

Here is the current banzuke:-

Yaochoyama (Y1E 9-6) Y1 Profomisakari (Y1W 9-6)

Gernobono (O1E 6-9) O1

Jakusotsu (S1W 9-6) S1 Jejima (S1E 6-9)

Kuroimori (K1E 4-9-2) K1 XiaoTan (M1W 4-8-3)

Shimodahito (M2W 4-9-2) M1 chishafuwaku (M2E 3-12)

Andonishiki (M1E 2-6-7) M2

Banzuke-gai

hoshihitomi12 (K1W 0-0-15)

Comments:

Our two Yokozunas are both to be commended for their Jun-yushos in November. It is hoped that one will win the yusho in January.

Jakusotsu will be promoted to Ozeki with an Ozeki Quality performance in January.

Jejima will be promoted to Ozeki with a Yusho in January.

The rules are as follows:-
1. Guess S1W Kotooshu's opponents on each day of the basho.
2. Entries need to be in before 11:30 am Japan time on the previous day, except for the days 1 and 2 entries which need to be in before 11:30 am Japan time on the Friday prior to the start of the basho. If it turns out that the daily toriukumi is printed before these times, then any entry proved to have come afterwards is not allowed for that day (so enter early to be safe).
3. Tie-breakers to decide the Yusho.... We look at the result of the day 15 prediction, then day 14, and so on back to day 1. If still a tie, then the highest ranked on the banzuke can claim the Yusho.
4. If Kotooshu goes kyujo during the basho, we switch to S1E Goeido (K1E Myogiryu, then K1W Tochiozan kept further in reserve, if needed due to a mass spate of kyujos) for the days after his fusensho loss (I.e. we can still guess who gets the freebie). For the immediate day afterwards, (unless it is known very soon after the event), everyone will get a 'kyujo'.
5. Players that are leading the Yusho race (especially in the final few days of the basho), are requested / expected to get their picks in very early (before all the other players, if possible) - in order to avoid suspicions of 'tactical picking'.

Special prizes (many thanks to Yaochoyama):

1. Outstanding performance (shukun-sho) - the one who correctly picks the aite the most consecutive days. You have to have a minimum of three to win this prize.

2. Fighting spirit (kanto-sho) - the one who limits their incorrect aite picks to the shortest number of consecutive days (literally the one whose longest losing streak is the shortest). Any losing streak of 5 or more days would disqualify you from this prize.

3. Technique (gino-sho) - the one who is best at making correct picks when no one, or hardly anyone else does. A point system is used as follows and you need at least 3 points to claim this prize:

3 points if you're the only win to make the correct pick
2 points if you're one of two to make the correct pick
1 point if you're one of three to make the correct pick

New players (Order, order!) are cordially invited to join this game.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Jejima

[Jakusotsu 6,049]

Can't say I'm happy with the choice since it's quite probable we'll have to change horses.

[kuroimori 1,634]

Can't say I'm happy with the choice since it's quite probable we'll have to change horses.

pre-basho jinxing?

looking at keiko action, Osh seems to be in much better shape than the Geek, but we'll see in a coupla days..

[Andonishiki 170]

osh joghurt in GKA ?

oh tempura, oh mores.

well, shikata nai

[Andonishiki 170]

well, as I almost always forget day 1&2,

I better get started early

with only 3 Ozeki, the pattern is more tricky than usual

day 1: Aoiyama (bulgarian championship)

day 2: Kisenosato

[Profomisakari 873]

Hi torikumi pickers!

There is a problem for me:

The rules are as follows:-

. . .
4. If Kyokutenho goes kyujo during the basho, we switch to S1E Goeido (K1E Myogiryu, then K1W Tochiozan kept further in reserve, if needed due to a mass spate of kyujos) for the days after his fusensho loss (I.e. we can still guess who gets the freebie). For the immediate day afterwards, (unless it is known very soon after the event), everyone will get a 'kyujo'.

Why should we change from Kotooshu to Goeido (i tak dalsche), if Kyokutenho goes kjuyo.

For me seems to be more interesting, if Osh (Osh...) leaves the basho (Shaking head...)

Provomisakari

Edited January 8, 2014 by Profomisakari

[Jakusotsu 6,049]

Day 1 - Toyohibiki

Day 2 - Aoiyama

[Profomisakari 873]

Day1 Toyohibiki

Day2 Aminishiki

Profomisakari

[chishafuwaku 476]

Day 1: Aoiyama

Day 2: Toyonoshima

chishafuwaku

[shimodahito 317]

1: aoiyama

2: toyohibiki

And you still have time to enter TORCHBEARER 2014. One Rank and one Rikishi pick are good for the whole year. New players are welcome and all have an equal chance to win the end-of-year prize. Thanks.

[Gernobono 467]

kosho for me please

[Jejima 1,415]

Why should we change from Kotooshu to Goeido (i tak dalsche), if Kyokutenho goes kjuyo.

For me seems to be more interesting, if Osh (Osh...) leaves the basho (Shaking head...)

Provomisakari

Fixed!

[Jejima 1,415]

day 1 - Aoiyama

day 2 - Ikioi

[Andonishiki 170]

i need to change my day 2 pick.

day 2:　toyonoshima

[Yaochoyama 1]

Day 1 - Aoiyama

Day 2 - Ikioi

[Yaochoyama 1]

Kotooshu it is!

Thanks to all for the comments about changing aspects of the game. For the time being (until I have had a proper chance to think about it), we'll stick with the existing rules. Please keep the discussion going about possible changes. In the current times with declining numbers of sumo games players, I am very wary about making this game any more complicated (or time-consuming) then it currently is.....

Well the game itself is very simple, though the time-consumption part or doing well might be another story, at least on some days. Here was my suggestion from last basho:

"... that we use a point system where each win would be worth 10 points. The reason for this would be that each player on any given day would have the option of making a second pick, and a win by the second pick would be worth 5 points. The catch would be that exercising the second pick option would cost 1 point. "

Hopefully this would only add minimal complicaiton to the rules. The other thing going for it is that you can still play the game the same way you always have if you wish. And potentially still do well.

[kuroimori 1,634]

Day 1 - Aoiyama

Day 2- Ikioi

[Andonishiki 170]

I like Yaochoyama's idea in general.

but one point seams too cheap, if you can win five.

I suggest

correct first pick: 8 points

correct second pick: 3 points

if you get first and second wrong: minus one point

[hoshihitomi12 3]

Day 1 ...Toyohibiki

Day 2 ...Chiyotairyu

[Yaochoyama 1]

Okay - just announced that Harumafuji is kyujo, about 15-20 minutes before the torikumi is suppose to be announced. While most of you Europeans sleep, I'd like to change my picks to:

Day 1 - Ikioi

Day 2 - Chiyotairyu

I'll let the rest of you argue if this should be allowed or not. I'll accept the verdict either way. Of course if I'm wrong I guess there's nothing to argue about.