Uriahnate 1 Posted January 11, 2014 Well Araibira's videos are already being put up on YouTube so at least we have that for now. Just saw that, started 10 minutes ago. I never have donated to anything like that on the net before, but I will now.May whatever god/s their are smile on Araibira 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andonishiki 169 Posted January 12, 2014 Araibira`s youtube channel clicks will explode exponancially. google will take notice. they will put their best ads on his channel. his revenues will explode as you get money from google if lots of people watch your channel (and probably click on some of the ads). Google will check if the content is legit... they might - God forbid - get in contact with him and ask for prove. GOD BLESS ARAIBIRA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted January 12, 2014 my usual optimism is gone ... :'-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumodrax 8 Posted January 12, 2014 THIS IS A DISGRACE THEN! I AM VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED ! A BIG SHAME ON THEM WHO DO THIS TO US IN THE SUMO COMMUNITY! WE WHO ARE GOOD AND POLITE AND ALWAYS SO HUMBLE FOR THAT STREAM.......I HAVE NO WORDS.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,974 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Somebody on what is probably going to be the official 2ch complaint thread pointed out that the new pay service was first mentioned on...Ustream's official twitter account. After that the news was picked up by the media and only then, with a significant delay, something about it was posted to the Kyokai's twitter and their homepage. Makes me wonder if the "foreigner living in Japan" that Kinta speculates about is somebody connected to Ustream. It won't come as a surprise that the 2ch denizens think the pricing is ridiculous, too. Edited January 12, 2014 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,873 Posted January 12, 2014 Well Araibira's videos are already being put up on YouTube so at least we have that for now.And they are being posted in the Torikumi section of the database. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,974 Posted January 12, 2014 Araibira`s youtube channel clicks will explode exponancially. google will take notice. they will put their best ads on his channel. his revenues will explode as you get money from google if lots of people watch your channel (and probably click on some of the ads). Google will check if the content is legit... they might - God forbid - get in contact with him and ask for prove. GOD BLESS ARAIBIRA I could be wrong, but I don't think araibira is a Youtube Partner, i.e. somebody who monetizes his channel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 115 Posted January 12, 2014 it's not possible to watch the stream on more than one computer with the same ticket! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,484 Posted January 12, 2014 I'm highly disappointed that the video quality has not improved in the slightest. You'd think that for a $10 a day ticket they could provide a hi-def stream. :-P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugman 384 Posted January 12, 2014 So, waddya want to do now? Anyone bring cards? Monopoly? Scrabble? Netflix? I wouldn't mind a game of scrabble, my erm.....whatsit called.....thing.....with the words and stuff......vocabulary! Thats it, my vocabulary needs improving. :-) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukonoso 273 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) What about a nice role-playing game like Pathfinder? Everyone got their dice bags and favorite d20? Edited January 12, 2014 by Mukonoso 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,873 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Araibira's Day 1 playlist . Edited January 12, 2014 by Asojima 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted January 12, 2014 I would suggest flooding their Twitter, Line, Facebook like pages, etc. with comments expression your feelings about their treatment of fans... http://twitter.com/sumokyokai http://lineat.jp/sumokyokai http://www.facebook.com/groups/274730866011150/ treatment of fans? Sumo is a business. As unpopular as it is, I would suggest anyone paying for TV of other types (NHK, Sky, etc) is being hypocritical if condemning the decision of the NSK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted January 12, 2014 So, waddya want to do now? Anyone bring cards? Monopoly? Scrabble? Netflix? I wouldn't mind a game of scrabble, my erm.....whatsit called.....thing.....with the words and stuff......vocabulary! Thats it, my vocabulary needs improving. :-) Well, I'm all set up, have my tiles, ready to go... Oh look, I have a word already. Something about the NSK.... "JERK$" I wonder how many points I get..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am the Yokozuna 188 Posted January 12, 2014 I am pretty sure that NSK could monetize better through a dedicated channel on YouTube running Ads rather than through the Ustream Channel, which seems as many things over here half-arsedly done. Not to mention the opportunities for behind the scenes videos, training videos etc. - the things that could be uploaded is limitless and in doing so to increase the income from ads. Heck there are even paid channels over YouTube, why should they have gone the Ustream route? 10,000 JPY per basho is not rather high fee, for Japan, but for whole season would seem more appropriate. And do not get me started with rugby? Paying almost three different fees to watch rugby on JSports, delayed and selected games....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,873 Posted January 12, 2014 treatment of fans? Sumo is a business. As unpopular as it is, I would suggest anyone paying for TV of other types (NHK, Sky, etc) is being hypocritical if condemning the decision of the NSK.There is a major difference between paying TVJapan less than US$1 per day (the most expensive premium channel on my cable service) and paying US$10 for about 8 hours of coverage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted January 12, 2014 two thumbs down to the new system. the price doesn't match the service nor the demand. hats off and glasses raised to araibira. -shimodahito no TORCH match to kick off the 2014 contest so you can still send in an entry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted January 12, 2014 I would suggest flooding their Twitter, Line, Facebook like pages, etc. with comments expression your feelings about their treatment of fans... http://twitter.com/sumokyokai http://lineat.jp/sumokyokai http://www.facebook.com/groups/274730866011150/ treatment of fans? Sumo is a business. As unpopular as it is, I would suggest anyone paying for TV of other types (NHK, Sky, etc) is being hypocritical if condemning the decision of the NSK. The NSK can, and has the right to do anything they want. BUT, to charge ridiculous prices for the lowest possible quality product, and not pre-warn its targeted audience of the move until setting it in motion at the VERY LAST MOMENT shrieks of extreme arrogance and avarice on their part. Yes, Mark, their treatment of their fans is shoddy and reckless. Mark, to support this is to support monopolies and heavy-handed money grabs. This has nothing to do with hypocritical. If ANYTHING, the NSK is being self-serving and arrogant (I can think of no other word to describe this) to expect to hold onto its fans this way, and expect them to cough up exorbitant fees for shitty-as-always quality. I can subscribe to TVJapan for $20 a month. This would include exactly 1 hour of sumo today, and about 1 3/4 hours each day for the rest of the basho. And of course other programming that I would never watch. So, for $20, I get only the tail end of the basho. Not a great deal, but one that's remotely tangible. But there's no way I'm spending that for what I'm getting. And IF the NSK had any marketing skills, and had offered a day of viewing for, let's say, $0.99, (comparable to the price for some iPhone apps) then there wouldn't be this reaction. But to demand $10 a day, and expect people to accept that is in itself hypocritical. Of course it's a business, and the NSK can do whatever they want. Doesn't mean they should, and doesn't mean it's right. And it's aimed directly at the small world-wide group of hard-core fans who used the feed. That in itself is totally unbusinesslike and an unbridled attempt to extort as much revenue as possible from people who had supported their cause, in the thinking that this would be accepted without debate. I don't see how anyone in their right mind could support this move at the prices they demand, and the way they've implemented it. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 463 Posted January 12, 2014 I don't see how anyone in their right mind could support this move at the prices they demand, and the way they've implemented it. so let me open your eyes......i bought a daily ticket......because i just like to see ozumo live and i spend $10 or the equivalent in euros for things i do not like as much as ozumo......and shonichi live is worth the money for me.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted January 12, 2014 I would suggest flooding their Twitter, Line, Facebook like pages, etc. with comments expression your feelings about their treatment of fans... http://twitter.com/sumokyokai http://lineat.jp/sumokyokai http://www.facebook.com/groups/274730866011150/ treatment of fans? Sumo is a business. As unpopular as it is, I would suggest anyone paying for TV of other types (NHK, Sky, etc) is being hypocritical if condemning the decision of the NSK. That seems shortsighted. Providing access to viewing Ozumo worldwide through a simple free video feed promotes awareness and understanding of a very fascinating part of traditional Japanese culture, and has the net effect of bringing more paying customers via tourists coming to watch, buy goods, and promote sumo further through their own fan activities. Yo! What up dog?! That report is tight, yo! That is some stone cold hard intel, yeah! I mean, I never would of guessed that some in sumo might not worship at the feet of foreign fans who might attend once in their lives. Keep the big man writing coming, bro. I mean, some writers, man, they do little man reporting, always sniping away from the sidelines, expecting freebies yo. Not you, dog! Can you feel me? You keep it reals...tackling the big issues head on. I can dig it, yo. (Laughing...)​ (Spooky TV program...)​ (Zabuton flying...)​ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted January 12, 2014 I don't see how anyone in their right mind could support this move at the prices they demand, and the way they've implemented it. so let me open your eyes......i bought a daily ticket......because i just like to see ozumo live and i spend $10 or the equivalent in euros for things i do not like as much as ozumo......and shonichi live is worth the money for me.... I agree. Anyone who isn't willing to spend $20 every three months for TV Japan isn't a real sumo fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takamisakari 1 Posted January 12, 2014 live stream found http://resource.kukuplay.com/players/prerelease.php?cid=380789_1361122363214 or http://resource.ws.kukuplay.com/players/2014/01/04/48901/fengyun.swf?cid=380789_1361122363214 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torquato 1,075 Posted January 12, 2014 I wouldn't mind a game of scrabble, my erm.....whatsit called.....thing.....with the words and stuff......vocabulary! Thats it, my vocabulary needs improving. :-) Good idea! All the f-words I would come up with give triple value, ey? so let me open your eyes......i bought a daily ticket...... Where's the dislike button? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 463 Posted January 12, 2014 so let me open your eyes......i bought a daily ticket...... Where's the dislike button? you got me what is it you dislike? ME paying for internet-content i LOVE? i guess you have to be strong now! i also share an nfl-gamepass and........i guess you dislike it.......i am PAYING for it..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted January 12, 2014 so let me open your eyes......i bought a daily ticket...... Where's the dislike button? you got me what is it you dislike? ME paying for internet-content i LOVE? i guess you have to be strong now! i also share an nfl-gamepass and........i guess you dislike it.......i am PAYING for it..... fair enough for me - just out of curiosity: how would you rate the value / performance of an NFL GamePass vs. the new 1-Day ticket Ozumo ticket? And in general, I am wondering how much revenue did UStream/NSK make off of this forum (and in total) today with 1-Day and so called "Seasonal" tickets? My guess is that there was quite some nice revenue generated today driven mainly by plain curiosity or lack of alternative live feed options, but come tomorrow, a regular weekday outside Japan, those revenues will drop sharply (at least for most of the forum members). Any thoughts and feedback on purchases are welcome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
