Asashosakari 19,034 Posted January 14, 2014 (2013 here) Belated starting lineup for Hatsu 2014: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 20 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonidan 93 32-108 0.229 3-4 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 11 Jonokuchi 13 East Jonidan 97 22-55 0.286 2-5 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 9 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonidan 91 16-48 0.250 3-4 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonokuchi 8 9-19 0.321 3-4 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonokuchi 9 7-21 0.250 2-5 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 14 West Jonokuchi 12 6-22 0.214 2-5 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 15 East Jonokuchi 14 4-24 0.143 1-6 Katayama Dewanoumi Haru 2013 3 Banzuke-gai Jonokuchi 5 7-11-10 0.389 0-1-6 Make-or-break time for Sadaisamu if he wants to avoid dai-persistence status, while Azumayama enters his third "decade". And Ryuki and Ito will try to prevent their addition to this thread. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted January 20, 2014 Belated Day 8 summary: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 21 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonidan 93 32-112 0.222 3-4 0-4 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 11 Jonokuchi 13 East Jonidan 97 25-56 0.309 2-5 3-1 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 9 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonidan 91 18-50 0.265 3-4 2-2 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonokuchi 8 11-21 0.344 3-4 2-2 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonokuchi 9 8-24 0.250 2-5 1-3 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 14 West Jonokuchi 12 6-26 0.188 2-5 0-4 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 4 Jonokuchi 15 East Jonokuchi 14 5-27 0.156 1-6 1-3 Katayama Dewanoumi Haru 2013 3 Banzuke-gai Jonokuchi 5 7-11-10 0.389 0-1-6 --- Miyakojima's best start ever into a tournament, and with three shots at KK he'll hopefully make it. Azumayama meanwhile has collected his career 6th first-week MK (and has in fact never started 3-1 himself). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted January 21, 2014 Day 9/10: Miyakojima missed out in his first KK opportunity, losing to rookie Ryuki (pun not intended) who is now 4-1 in his third career basho and no longer has to worry about having to join us. Terumichi also lost and is now makekoshi, while the battle of our two winless club members was decided in favour of Azumayama. Sadaisamu, Teruju and Kaikoki are all 2-3 now, the first two after losses and Kaikoki with a victory. Besides Ryuki we did have another candidate for thread inclusion, and Ito has gone the exact opposite way - at 1-4 he's now primed to become our newest member. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted January 23, 2014 Day 11/12: Losses all around, which means that Sadaisamu, Teruju and Kaikoki have dropped to MK and Miyakojima has missed his second KK opportunity of the basho. Sekizuka fell to 0-6 yesterday and must be hoping there's no injury returnee in his path for the final round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted January 24, 2014 No happy ending for Miyakojima as his third straight loss dropped him to 3-4 today. And Sekizuka did draw one of the (quite many this basho) returnees and unsurprisingly finishes 0-7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted February 1, 2014 The tournament ended with senshuraku losses for mostly everyone, the notable exception being Azumayama who beat fellow club member Kaikoki for his second win of the basho. Final Hatsu results: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 21 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonidan 93 34-113 0.231 3-4 2-5 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 12 Jonokuchi 13 East Jonidan 97 25-59 0.298 2-5 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 10 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonidan 91 19-52 0.268 3-4 3-4 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonokuchi 8 11-24 0.314 3-4 2-5 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonokuchi 9 9-26 0.257 2-5 2-5 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 14 West Jonokuchi 12 6-29 0.171 2-5 0-7 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 15 East Jonokuchi 14 5-29-1 0.147 1-6 1-5-1 Katayama Dewanoumi Haru 2013 3 Banzuke-gai Jonokuchi 5 7-11-10 0.389 0-1-6 --- Not a basho with much to write home about. Sadaisamu completes his double-digit set of MKs, but he does have back-to-back 3-4's for the first time in his career. Katayama has decided to leave Ozumo, but as mentioned before we do have a new applicant on the way: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% 2013.03 2013.05 2013.07 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 3 Jonokuchi 19 West Jonokuchi 13 4-17 0.190 3-4 0-7 1-6 He's another kid built like Miyakojima, tall and skinny, and I suspect he'll be around with us for a while as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted February 2, 2014 I went out with Mijakojima and Arawashi last basho. Wasn't aware that Mijakojima is already 24, a late start with his sumo career. He always tries hard in all his fights and so he does in training said Arawashi. He promised a kachi koshi in Haru basho :-). Ganbatteee! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 11, 2014 Lineup for Haru basho: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 21 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 93 34-113 0.231 2-5 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 12 Jonokuchi 3 East Jonidan 97 25-59 0.298 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 10 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonidan 91 19-52 0.268 3-4 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 3 11-24 0.314 2-5 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 5 West Jonokuchi 5 9-26 0.257 2-5 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonokuchi 8 5-29-1 0.147 1-5-1 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 19 West Jonokuchi 12 6-29 0.171 0-7 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 3 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 9 4-17 0.190 1-6 Our only potential new member after Haru is banzuke-gai returnee Sakai. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 16, 2014 Day 8 summary: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 21 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 93 36-115 0.238 2-5 2-2 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 12 Jonokuchi 3 East Jonidan 97 28-60 0.318 3-4 3-1 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 10 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonidan 91 20-55 0.267 3-4 1-3 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 3 13-26 0.333 2-5 2-2 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 5 West Jonokuchi 5 9-30 0.231 2-5 0-4 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonokuchi 8 5-33-1 0.132 1-5-1 0-4 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 5 Jonokuchi 19 West Jonokuchi 12 7-32 0.179 0-7 1-3 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 3 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 9 5-20 0.200 1-6 1-3 Miyokojima provides a ray of light, although it needs to be said that he's had an awfully lucky schedule so far with wins against Kiyomusashi (4-3 in his debut, 8-17 since), fellow clubber Sadaisamu, and rookie Shinyashiki (2-5 last basho), plus a loss against another club member in Teruju. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 18, 2014 Day 9: Azumayama has earned himself an unlikely chance at kachikoshi (his first since Aki 2012), beating Teruju in an intra-squad bout and improving to 3-2. It's actually the very first time he holds that record and has two shots in the same basho; his previous two KK opportunities came at 3-3 (once after 1-3, once after 2-3). In another head-to-head battle Terumichi earned his first victory at the expense of Kaikoki who remains winless at 0-5, and Ito fell to 1-4 and makekoshi. Day 10: Sekizuka and Sadaisamu are the next to drop to 1-4, while Miyakojima couldn't capitalize on his first KK chance and finds himself 3-2 now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikanohara 171 Posted March 18, 2014 What's actually the record of consecutive MK ? a) before first KK b) before going intai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 19, 2014 Yes, yes, yes ... he made it like promised in January! Miyakojima kachi koshi!! (Applauding...) (Holiday feeling...) (Holiday feeling...) (Holiday feeling...) Met him outside by accident, a big smile on his face :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Indeed, congrats to Miyakojima on his kachikoshi! Other Day 11/12 stuff: Nothing much good to note. Sadaisamu, Terumichi, Sekizuka and Ito all lost and find themselves 1-5, Kaikoki even 0-6. Azumayama's first KK opportunity went by unused as well, while Teruju provided a small ray of sunshine by improving to 3-3. Azumayama is back in action tomorrow, Teruju will most likely have his KK/MK decider on Day 14. Edit: And Sakai dropped to 2-4 and will be joining us for Natsu basho. What's actually the record of consecutive MK ? a) before first KK b) before going intai Moriurara with 38. Edited March 20, 2014 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,178 Posted March 20, 2014 What's actually the record of consecutive MK ? a) before first KK b) before going intai Moriurara with 38. But Moriurara can't be the answer to b) or? I understand this as most consecutive MK with never getting a KK. Speaking of the devil, Moriurara is 3-3 right now and has a shot at his sixth career 4-3 (he never had a higher score). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 20, 2014 But Moriurara can't be the answer to b) or? I understand this as most consecutive MK with never getting a KK.I read it as "at any point before intai". The post-1989 "never KK" record is Kotohigashiyama with 20, if I'm not mistaken. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashikawazu 43 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I think the answer to b) is Ishii. Poor chap had 20 MKs then went intai without a KK. (21 including Mae-zumo) Edit: Posted at the same time as Asashosakari; but I think he is actually correct. (As I count Kotohigashiyama at 22 MKs an then intai, 25 including Mae-zumo) Edited March 20, 2014 by Ashikawazu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 21, 2014 I think the answer to b) is Ishii. Poor chap had 20 MKs then went intai without a KK. (21 including Mae-zumo) Edit: Posted at the same time as Asashosakari; but I think he is actually correct. (As I count Kotohigashiyama at 22 MKs an then intai, 25 including Mae-zumo) For what it's worth, I only count tournaments in which the rikishi was on the banzuke and appeared on the dohyo, so no 0-0-7's or 0-1-6's where the only result is a loss by fusen. Didn't seem fair to me to count those as makekoshi when I began tracking these rikishi - they have it tough enough as it is. ;-) Sadly, Day 13 didn't bring a happy ending for Azumayama who fell to 3-4 for his 22nd makekoshi. Kaikoki picked up the expected loss against former juryo Ryuden and finishes 0-7. (The silver lining for Kaikoki: On the next banzuke he'll be ranked at the very bottom with the worst of the Haru shindeshi class. He'll never get a better shot at 4 wins.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted March 30, 2014 Closing things out here...sadly Teruju followed Azumayama to 3-4 makekoshi with a loss against former almost-dai persister (9 MK) Daishohama. And on Day 15 four persistence members were paired up, with Ito and Sadaisamu improving to 2-5 at the expense of Sekizuka and Terumichi who finish 1-6. Miyakojima ends his KK basho with a 4-3 record after a senshuraku loss. Final Haru 2014 results: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 22 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 93 37-117 0.240 2-5 3-4 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 12 Jonokuchi 3 East Jonidan 97 29-62 0.319 3-4 4-3 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 11 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonidan 91 21-57 0.269 3-4 2-5 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 3 14-28 0.333 2-5 3-4 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 5 West Jonokuchi 5 9-33 0.214 2-5 0-7 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonokuchi 8 6-35-1 0.146 1-5-1 1-6 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 19 West Jonokuchi 12 7-35 0.167 0-7 1-6 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 4 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 9 6-22 0.214 1-6 2-5 Miyakojima's graduation leaves Teruju as the next-best candidate, at least measured by winning percentage. Our squad remains at 8 members with this addition: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% 2013.05 2013.07 2014.03 Sakai Naruto Haru 2013 3 Jonokuchi 20 East Jonokuchi 8 7-15-6 0.318 2-5 3-4 2-5 Sakai dropped off the rankings for a bit; I've listed his three qualifying records instead of his last three tournaments. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginkgo 6 Posted April 1, 2014 Don´t forget this guy: Sugishita, who never wins a fight (ok, one fusen) - not the most consecutive mk, but maybe the worst win%... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted May 5, 2014 Natsu basho lineup: Everybody who scored a 3-4 or 2-5 last time received a lucky promotion to jonidan. Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 22 Jonidan 92 East Jonidan 92 37-117 0.240 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 11 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 91 21-57 0.269 2-5 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonidan 91 West Jonidan 91 14-28 0.333 3-4 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonokuchi 1 6-35-1 0.146 1-6 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 2 West Jonokuchi 2 7-35 0.167 1-6 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 26 East Jonokuchi 5 9-33 0.214 0-7 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 4 Jonidan 99 West Jonidan 99 6-22 0.214 2-5 Sakai Naruto Haru 2013 3 Jonidan 101 East Jonidan 101 7-15-6 0.318 2-5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,024 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) There are some rikishi like this guy that seem far more persistent than those on this list. He's had over 800 matches with a winning percentage around 36%, been active for 20 years now and his highest rank is Jd61. This guy would be even a better endurance persistence candidate, having an under 1/3 winning percentage in over 1000 matches and never getting above Jd67, but he retired earlier this year after around 27 years of wrestling. Those two are the only two rikishi with over 500 bouts in Jonokuchi. Another impressively persistent guys include this guy with the most matches at the lowest two divisions of any active rikishi, and will break the corresponding all-time record the previous mentioned rikishi set later next year if he continues to persist; although he did reach Sandanme, he was last there 19 years ago. Other currently active honorable mentions would be this guy and this guy. Interestingly enough, all rikishi with over 750 matches at Jonidan and below were active during the 2010s; were guys this persistent previously kicked out of their heya to make room for newer recruits (the waning popularity of sumo creating an excess of space) or is there something else that fundamentally changed? edit: Of the 222 riskishi with 50 or more basho in the lowest two divisions, the least recent one was intai in 1978. Only one with 60 or more basho was intai before 1990. edit 2: The 3 guys with the most non-sekitori bashos are all currently active (although one made Juryo for 1 basho back in 2005), and all 8 with over 150 such basho were active in the 2010s. Edited May 6, 2014 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted May 18, 2014 Day 8 summary, and I dare say this basho's a write-off: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 23 Jonidan 92 East Jonidan 92 37-121 0.234 3-4 0-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 11 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 91 22-60 0.268 2-5 1-3 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonidan 91 West Jonidan 91 15-31 0.326 3-4 1-3 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonokuchi 1 7-38-1 0.156 1-6 1-3 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 7 Jonokuchi 2 West Jonokuchi 2 7-39 0.152 1-6 0-4 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 26 East Jonokuchi 5 11-35 0.239 0-7 2-2 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 4 Jonidan 99 West Jonidan 99 6-22-4 0.214 2-5 0-0-4 Sakai Naruto Haru 2013 4 Jonidan 101 East Jonidan 101 7-19-6 0.269 2-5 0-4 Maybe Kaikoki can take advantage of the general haplessness at the very bottom of the banzuke, but other than that I think we're going to be looking at a very early all-MK outcome here this basho. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Maybe Kaikoki can take advantage of the general haplessness at the very bottom of the banzuke, but other than that I think we're going to be looking at a very early all-MK outcome here this basho.The indescribable happened: Kaikoki did exactly that by winning on Days 9 and 11 to improve to 4-2. Congrats! Here's the KK clincher (which, fittingly, he almost lost at the last second): Maybe more persisters should go for an 0-7 record in Haru tournaments... As expected everybody else is makekoshi now (already after Day 10 actually), although there's a silver lining as everybody at least has a win now. Sakai was the most successful rikishi in the last two rounds, moving his record from 0-4 to 2-4. And he didn't even need to face any other members for it, not current ones anyway - I do suspect we'll be seeing at least one of his opponents in here by September. Edited May 22, 2014 by Asashosakari 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 459 Posted May 22, 2014 Last basho's persistance graduate Mikayojima is 2-4 after a promising 2-0 start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,034 Posted July 12, 2014 Belated final standings from Natsu: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 23 Jonidan 92 East Jonidan 92 39-122 0.242 3-4 2-5 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 12 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 91 22-63 0.259 2-5 1-6 Teruju Isegahama Haru 2013 7 Jonidan 91 West Jonidan 91 15-34 0.306 3-4 1-6 Terumichi Isegahama Haru 2013 7 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonokuchi 1 8-40-1 0.167 1-6 2-5 Sekizuka Naruto Haru 2013 7 Jonokuchi 2 West Jonokuchi 2 8-41 0.163 1-6 1-6 Kaikoki Tomozuna Haru 2013 6 Jonokuchi 26 East Jonokuchi 5 13-36 0.265 0-7 4-3 Ito Matsugane Nagoya 2013 4 Jonidan 99 West Jonidan 99 6-22-7 0.214 2-5 0-0-7 Sakai Naruto Haru 2013 4 Jonidan 101 East Jonidan 101 9-20-6 0.310 2-5 2-5 Would have been an utter disaster basho, if not for Kaikoki's heroics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
