Orion 431 Posted February 5, 2014 A little bit more public interest and pressure and we can say "good bye" to our next talented rikishi who maybe become ozeki or even aspire to higher merits...The Hanada Bros. managed quite well with all that hype. Au contraire, the family pretty well fell apart, especially as Takanohana despised his elder brother and fell more and more under the influence of a guru of sorts; and the father, ex-Ozeki Takanohana, complained bitterly that much of the hype, far from bringing in the money, was merely creating problems -- the road outside the heya was thronged every morning with young girls who just stood there, waiting to glimpse their idols, and maybe get to talk with them -- but never buying sumo tickets and actually supporting sumo (I paraphrase but that was the gist). Orion 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted February 5, 2014 You're right, of course. But we were talking banzuke ranks only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 5, 2014 I changed the topic title to get rid of the notification error. Endo from a painter of his home town got an India-ink painting of a dragon (ryu) he had desired, returning a signed coloured paper. The oyakata being from the same town got for the heya a painting of the Chinese deity Zhong Kui for keeping away evil spirits (surely those causing Endo to get injured). www.chunichi.co.jp/article/ishikawa/20140205/CK2014020502000040.html Asashoryu being the one with special impact for his decision to devote himself to sumo, a shikona with ryu seems to be most likely for Endo. Sho (different kanji) for the heya and oyakata (Daishoyama), but Daishoryu already is in the heya: a different first kanji with connection to home or his real name or what? He strives to become like Wajima, but kanji from that name won't fit easily. I think Takashoryu would be best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Just out of curiosity, would it be syntactically possible to take the 石 ishi from Ishikawa and combine it into an Isshoryu-type shikona pronunciation? Edited February 5, 2014 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugman 384 Posted February 5, 2014 I hope Endo fails, just so that I can call him Pretendo. While i liked your post cos it was funny i don't hope he fails, i like his graceful sumo, i'l just try ignore the circus buzzing around him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 7, 2014 Endo's daily rhythm is disturbed by too much extra events. He can't get the 2-3 hours nap after chanko when asa-geiko is finished. They are common for rikishi – and part of training. Endo (like many Japanese) sleeps in the train and tries to go to bed earlier.http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/02/07/kiji/K20140207007535150.html 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 8, 2014 Endo was at a talk show in Takasaki and got lots of chocolate as Valentine day (=Japanese males get chocolate from females) draws nearer. He plans for degeiko after banzuke publication.http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/02/08/kiji/K20140208007542660.htmlhttp://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/news/20140208-OHT1T00062.htmIt is known that he loves chocolate. Maybe all the 8000+ which applied to be carried in his arms think of giving him some ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 11, 2014 Endo had announced he would carry in his arms a female fan up to his own weight.http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/sumo/news/f-sp-tp3-20140211-1256219.htmlOnly 3 had that privilege – the other 3 went to Okinoumi.Endo: “It was good keiko”.http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/general/2014/02/11/0006701078.shtmlhttp://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/02/11/kiji/K20140211007565430.html 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted February 11, 2014 Endo had announced he would carry in his arms a female fan up to his own weight. I wonder if the three girls in the picture actually add up to his own weight :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) The carrying and more about Endo as the handsome "wild-hair prince" for the female fans. Keiko shown as well. The expectation of the fans about him becoming yokozuna: “It's a motivation.” www.fnn-news.com/news/headlines/articles/CONN00262923.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB-56NwCnFM 8132 women applied for having Endo (and Okinoumi) carry them in their arms like recently, it was in the PR news for quite a while – only 6 will be selected. Edited February 11, 2014 by Akinomaki 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 12, 2014 Endo was covered in sweat from the carrying.The 50 Endo straps they had on sale at the Charity ozumo were of course sold out.Taka expects that he won't crumble that big in Haru, Kitanoumi says 6 wins would be a passing mark.http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/sumo/news/f-sp-tp3-20140212-1256597.htmlhttp://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/sumou/233586/http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=spo_30&k=2014021100421http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20140212/sum14021205020001-n1.htmlhttp://www.nikkansports.com/sports/sumo/news/p-sp-tp3-20140212-1256385.htmlhttp://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2014/02/12/kiji/K20140212007569100.htmlhttp://mainichi.jp/sports/news/20140212k0000m050030000c.htmlhttp://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/news/20140211-OYT1T00517.htmhttp://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/news/20140211-OHT1T00142.htm 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Taka expects that he won't crumble that big in Haru, Kitanoumi says 6 wins would be a passing mark. Sounds like a Komusubi rank for Haru. Edited February 12, 2014 by ronnie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted February 12, 2014 Taka expects that he won't crumble that big in Haru, Kitanoumi says 6 wins would be a passing mark.Sounds like a Komusubi rank for Haru. ...which would be a more than keen move by the banzuke makers - even if a third Sekiwake rank would be added Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,478 Posted February 12, 2014 Also it sounds like fairly reasonable expectations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 356 Posted February 13, 2014 Also it sounds like fairly reasonable expectations. Expecting nothing less then the impossible... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 671 Posted February 13, 2014 Taka expects that he won't crumble that big in Haru, Kitanoumi says 6 wins would be a passing mark. Sounds like a Komusubi rank for Haru. Actually, the average number of wins for a rikishi making his debut at M3 or above for the past ten years has been 5,38 (5,84 if you only count rikishi who fought a complete 15 days). A total of 39% of those rikishi managed to get 6 wins or more. So an expectation of 6 wins sounds right about average for him even if he's not Komusubi. I think the REAL expectations Kitanoumi has for him are actually much higher than that, they are just trying to not put too much pressure on him. P.S. On the other hand, the numbers for people making their Komusubi debut are not that different, 5,53 average wins (5,70 out of those who didn't drop out) and a 46% who got 6 wins. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted February 19, 2014 Reasonable expectations for Endo's first basho in j'oi really depend upon what type of rikishi one anticipates he'll be. As Krindel points out, the average of 5.38 wins for the first time in the top ranks means little, as that includes lots of rikishi with limited upper potential, and most of us don't view Endo in this light. For the most recent top ranked rikishi, their first basho in the sanyaku or j'oi went as follows: All three of the most recent yokozuna, Asashoryu (K1), Hakuho (M3), and Harumafuji (a/k/a Ama)(M2) went 8-7. For the most recent ozeki, Kaio (M1), Tochiazuma (K2), Kotooshu (M4), and Kotoshogiku (M3) went 9-6. Chiyotaiki (M1) and Kisenosato (M1) went 8-7. Three recent ozeki failed to kk on their first time in the top: Kakuryu (M2) 7-8; Baruto (M1) 5-10; and Chiyotaikai (M1) 4-11. So, while admittedly this is a limited survey, 9 out of the last 12 ozeki got a kk the first time they faced the top of the banzuke. Therefore, I'd say the real expectations for Endo are 8 wins, not 6. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,789 Posted February 26, 2014 Because of Endo ticket sales are 25% up from last year. Senshuraku was sold out in 2 days. Last year had a full house on day 1 and days 7-15. On days 2-5, which usually sell bad, Endo is likely to have bouts with ozeki and yokozuna, that pushes sales. http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/news/20140225-OHT1T00202.htm->biggerhttp://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/sumou/238926/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted February 26, 2014 Because of Endo ticket sales are 25% up from last year. Senshuraku was sold out in 2 days. Last year had a full house on day 1 and days 7-15. On days 2-5, which usually sell bad, Endo is likely to have bouts with ozeki and yokozuna, that pushes sales. http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/news/20140225-OHT1T00202.htm ->bigger http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/sumou/238926/ "Because of Endo" - bit of a a sweeping overstatement ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 356 Posted February 26, 2014 "Failure is not an option!" That summarize the situation for Endo quite well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekitori 492 Posted February 26, 2014 "Endo now, the Endo's here.." Or as Frank Sinatra would have sung: "And now that Endo's here, I'll state his case of which I'm certain..... The record shows he'll take the blows and do it his way" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted February 26, 2014 "Failure is not an option!" That summarize the situation for Endo quite well... and if he fails, "This is the end, my beautiful friend..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) "Failure is not an option!" That summarize the situation for Endo quite well... and if he fails, "This is the end, my beautiful friend..." Endo is finishing his 5th basho in Makuuchi. He'll have 2 KK (at M13 (9 wins, withdrew) and at M10 (11 wins, with a sansho)) and 3 MK. His MK are 6 wins (M7), 6 wins (M1), and he's currently at 5 wins at M4 with 2 matches to go. Still young and brash, with much to learn (only in Juryo for 1 basho, and at J13 at that) - but will Endo-mania begin to wane if he doesn't do something the next time he's ranked the upper half of the maegashira (next basho?)? Edited May 23, 2014 by Fukurou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted May 23, 2014 To be fair, he's still doing a lot better than Kisenosato in his first 5 Makuuchi bashos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,786 Posted May 23, 2014 To be fair, he's still doing a lot better than Kisenosato in his first 5 Makuuchi bashos....who was 5 years younger. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites