Achiyama 1,246 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Group "1", Round of 16 - Final Scoring.Cup match:Andonishiki vs. ScreechingOwl Andonishiki: 1. Argentina (E1)2. France3. Netherlands4. Brazil5. Nigeria6. Mexico ®7. Algerie vs. ScreechingOwl 1. Germany (E1)2. Brasil3. Belgium ©4. Greece5. Switzerland6. Chile 7. None Scoring: Slot #1: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken, No goals: Score: 0:0Slot #2: Win : Draw - Both chains unbroken. Andonishiki scores a goal. Score: 1:0 Slot #3: Win : Draw - Both chains unbroken. Andonishiki scores a second goal. Score: 2:0 Slot #4: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals scored. Score: 2:0 Slot #5: Loss : Draw - Andonishiki's chain broken, No goals scored. Score: 2:0 Slot #6: Loss : Draw - No goals scored. Score: 2:0 LOT #7: Draw : Loss - ScreechingOwl's chain broken, because of an auto loss. GAME OVER. FINAL SCORE: 2:0 for ANDONISHIKI Saucer match: Fujiyama vs. Fujiko Fujiyama 1 Argentina (E1)2 Brazil3 Holland4 France ©5 Nigeria6 Switzerland vs. Fujiko 1. Brazil 2. Argentina (E1) 3. France 4. Greece 5. Mexico 6. Chile ® Scoring: Slot #1: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals: Score: 0:0Slot #2: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals. Score: 0:0 Slot #3: Win : Win - Both chains unbroken. No goals. Score: 0:0 Slot #4: Win : Draw - Both chains unbroken. Fujiyama scores a goal. Score: 1:0 Slot #5: Loss : Loss - Both chains unbroken. No goals scored. Score: 1:0 Slot #6: Draw : Draw - Fujiko's chain broken because of her ® team. No goals scored. GAME OVER. FINAL SCORE: 1:0 for FUJIYAMA Hope I got the scores right. Edited July 2, 2014 by Achiyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 07:35, Asashosakari said: On 02/07/2014 at 05:22, Jejima said: Saucer match: Daineko: 1. Brazil, 2. Netherlands, 3. Costa Rica, 4. Uruguay ®, 5. USA ©, 6. France (E1), 7. Switzerland vs Pandaazuma: 1. Germany (E1), 2. Argentina, 3. Belgium, 4. Netherlands, 5. Nigeria, 6. Algeria, 7. None Refioji: After 90 minutes, the match is tied 1-1. Thanks to goals from the Netherlands for both sides. Extra time starts from slot 6, with a goal for Daineko. But Pandaazuma then finds form, and scores 3 goals with Germany, Argentina and Belgium, to win the match 4-2. What a thriller! Daineko is now out of the competition, but Pandaazuma lives to fight another day. I have this as a 2-1 after extra time for Daineko... BWC extra time starts at slot 6 with the results as they are after 120 minutes if applicable, no? That means:Daineko: 6. France (E1), 7. Switzerland Switzerland vs Pandaazuma: 6. Algeria Algeria, 7. None with a goal for Daineko and immediate break for Pandaazuma on slot 6. Relevant rule excerpt: On 26/06/2014 at 11:22, Jejima said: Extra time starts with the next slot after the place where the second team to have their chain broken, was broken. (I.e. Player A's chain broke on the 2nd slot. Player B's chain broke on the 5th slot. Extra time for both players starts from the 6th slot.) From that point onwards, all matches are considered after the 120 mins result (or 90 mins if it did not go that far). (Kimura Zatoichi...) Thank goodness someone is checking. Yes, I overlooked the Algeria loss in extra time, so the win goes to Daineko 2-1 in extra time. I *really am 70% asleep - but now have to go and play squash for an hour.... Maybe that will wake me up? I will correct the result above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 07:29, Jakusotsu said: On 02/07/2014 at 06:34, Jejima said: The Netherlands match was finished after 90 mins, so is removed from extra time consideration. Argentina drew in normal time, but then won in extra time, so Argentina's extra time counts as a goal.What exactly does "removed from extra time consideration" mean? It's very confusing. The result of the Netherlands match is ignored once the match goes to extra time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,049 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 09:39, Jejima said: The result of the Netherlands match is ignored once the match goes to extra time.I still don't get what "ignored" means. Does Netherlands count as a loss in extra-time? Or is the whole X vs. Netherlands matchup ignored? How about Germany(D) vs. Netherlands(W) in extra-time when Germany has a belated win? Do they score a goal? Still confused... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 317 Posted July 2, 2014 Quote Slot #1: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals: Score: 0:0 Slot #2: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals. Score: 0:0 Slot #3: Win : Win - Both chains unbroken. No goals. Score: 0:0 Slot #4: Win : Draw - Both chains unbroken. Fujiyama scores a goal. Score: 1:0 Slot #5: Loss : Loss - Both chains unbroken. No goals scored. Score: 1:0 Slot #6: Draw : Draw - Fujiko's chain broken because of her ® team. No goals scored. GAME OVER. FINAL SCORE: 1:0 for FUJIYAMA I think this match has to continue until both chains are broken.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 10:16, Jakusotsu said: On 02/07/2014 at 09:39, Jejima said: The result of the Netherlands match is ignored once the match goes to extra time.I still don't get what "ignored" means. Does Netherlands count as a loss in extra-time? Or is the whole X vs. Netherlands matchup ignored? How about Germany(D) vs. Netherlands(W) in extra-time when Germany has a belated win? Do they score a goal?Still confused... Netherlands is deleted from the line-up for extra-time action. The next team in the line-up takes Netherlands place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 12:38, shimodahito said: Quote Slot #1: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals: Score: 0:0 Slot #2: Draw : Draw - Both chains unbroken. No goals. Score: 0:0 Slot #3: Win : Win - Both chains unbroken. No goals. Score: 0:0 Slot #4: Win : Draw - Both chains unbroken. Fujiyama scores a goal. Score: 1:0 Slot #5: Loss : Loss - Both chains unbroken. No goals scored. Score: 1:0 Slot #6: Draw : Draw - Fujiko's chain broken because of her ® team. No goals scored. GAME OVER. FINAL SCORE: 1:0 for FUJIYAMA I think this match has to continue until both chains are broken.... No, because Fujiyama reached the end of the squad, and won in normal time. Only go back to the start if extra time is needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Hi! Due to the confusion, I have re-scored the extra time for Doitsuyama vs Pitinosato. All teams with a result in 90 minutes (that have not been used in 90 minutes) are deleted from the line-ups. Germany's extra time win comes just in time. So this match ends 0-2 to Pitinosato in extra time. Doitsuyama 0:2 Pitinosato(Algeria) (Germany) Chile D 0:0 D GreeceAlgeria ® L x:0 L SwitzerlandGreece D x:2 W Germany ® Edit: This is all wrong. ALL teams already used in normal time that got a result after 90 mins, are treated as 'draws'. My apologies to Jakusotsu (and to everyone else). My thanks to Asashosakari for putting me straight. Edited July 3, 2014 by Jejima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 06:56, Pandaazuma said: Second Round Final Scores Kuroimori vs Rubensan Kuroimori: 1. Germany (E1) 2. Brazil 3. Colombia 4. Costa Rica 5. Nigeria © 6. Mexico Rubensan: 1. Netherlands 2. Argentina (E1) 3. Brazil 4. Nigeria 5. Switzerland 6. (None) Kuroimori got his wish as Argentina were held over 90 minutes by Switzerland, making this match a 1-1 draw after 90 minutes. And so we go into extra time. Kuroimori's chain was broken at the 5-slot with Nigeria's loss so we begin extra time at slot 6. [Please note: I may be wrong here as I am basing this on my understanding of Jejima's description of extra time in my own match...can Jejima please check if I have done this correctly?] 6: 1-1 (no goals here) We go back to the beginning: 1: 2-1 (Germany scores because Netherlands is discounted as a 90-minute result) 2. 2-2 (Rubensan pulls one back with Argentina) 3. 2-2 (Colombia discounted, Brazil still a draw) 4. 2-2 (Costa Rica still a draw, Nigeria discounted) 5. 2-2 (Nigeria discounted, Switzerland lost) So I think this ends as a 2-2 draw and will go to penalties (Jezz will therefore announce the result)...but I KNOW I've screwed this up. Can someone double check this? Penalty shoot-out! Who goes first? Gets out his die... (1,2,3 = kuroimori takes the first spot kick. 4,5,6 = Rubensan). It's a.... 1 kuroimori steps up with..... Argentina! It's in! kuroimori O???? Rubensan ????? Rubensan's turn.... Brazil! It's in too! kuroimori O???? Rubensan O???? kuroimori next has.... Brazil! kuroimori OO??? Rubensan O???? Rubensan has... Argentina! kuroimori OO??? Rubensan OO??? kuroimori next has... Spain! It goes whizzing over the crossbar! kuroimori OOX?? Rubensan OO??? Can Rubensan take advantage? Germany! He can! kuroimori OOX?? Rubensan OOO?? Pressure now for kuroimori... Germany! He is still in it! kuroimori OOXO? Rubensan OOO?? Rubensan again... Italy! Easy save for the keeper!! kuroimori OOXO? Rubensan OOOX? We are level again. kuroimori.... Colombia! kuroimori OOXOO Rubensan OOOX? Pressure on Rubensan. He needs this one to stay in the match..... . . . . . Spain! Uh-oh! What a miss. kuroimori OOXOO Rubensan OOOXX kuroimori wins 4-3 on penalties, and remains in the Cup. Rubensan will be playing for the Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 13:20, Jejima said: On 02/07/2014 at 06:56, Pandaazuma said: Second Round Final Scores Kuroimori vs Rubensan Kuroimori: 1. Germany (E1) 2. Brazil 3. Colombia 4. Costa Rica 5. Nigeria © 6. Mexico Rubensan: 1. Netherlands 2. Argentina (E1) 3. Brazil 4. Nigeria 5. Switzerland 6. (None) Kuroimori got his wish as Argentina were held over 90 minutes by Switzerland, making this match a 1-1 draw after 90 minutes. And so we go into extra time. Kuroimori's chain was broken at the 5-slot with Nigeria's loss so we begin extra time at slot 6. [Please note: I may be wrong here as I am basing this on my understanding of Jejima's description of extra time in my own match...can Jejima please check if I have done this correctly?] 6: 1-1 (no goals here) We go back to the beginning: 1: 2-1 (Germany scores because Netherlands is discounted as a 90-minute result) 2. 2-2 (Rubensan pulls one back with Argentina) 3. 2-2 (Colombia discounted, Brazil still a draw) 4. 2-2 (Costa Rica still a draw, Nigeria discounted) 5. 2-2 (Nigeria discounted, Switzerland lost) So I think this ends as a 2-2 draw and will go to penalties (Jezz will therefore announce the result)...but I KNOW I've screwed this up. Can someone double check this? Penalty shoot-out!Who goes first? Gets out his die... (1,2,3 = kuroimori takes the first spot kick. 4,5,6 = Rubensan). It's a.... 1 kuroimori steps up with..... Argentina! It's in! kuroimori O???? Rubensan ????? Rubensan's turn.... Brazil! It's in too! kuroimori O???? Rubensan O???? kuroimori next has.... Brazil! kuroimori OO??? Rubensan O???? Rubensan has... Argentina! kuroimori OO??? Rubensan OO??? kuroimori next has... Spain! It goes whizzing over the crossbar! kuroimori OOX?? Rubensan OO??? Can Rubensan take advantage? Germany! He can! kuroimori OOX?? Rubensan OOO?? Pressure now for kuroimori... Germany! He is still in it! kuroimori OOXO? Rubensan OOO?? Rubensan again... Italy! Easy save for the keeper!! kuroimori OOXO? Rubensan OOOX? We are level again. kuroimori.... Colombia! kuroimori OOXOO Rubensan OOOX? Pressure on Rubensan. He needs this one to stay in the match..... . . . . . Spain! Uh-oh! What a miss. kuroimori OOXOO Rubensan OOOXX kuroimori wins 4-3 on penalties, and remains in the Cup. Rubensan will be playing for the Bowl. Yeehah!!! Wow, scrolling down this post was almost as thrilling as watching a real penalty shoot put drama. When it comes to a penalty shootout, it is all about luck. I was a bit luckier than Rubensan today, so I am humbled to advance after this tough matchup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,049 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 12:46, Jejima said: Netherlands is deleted from the line-up for extra-time action. The next team in the line-up takes Netherlands place.Ah, now I see. Cheers. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saruyama 1 Posted July 2, 2014 Belated Update for Group F (1 &3) vs Group E (2&4)Cup Match: Kotononami vs Furanohana (0-2) Kotononami: 1. Argentina ®, 2. Germany (E1), 3. France, 4. Costa Rica ©, 5. Netherlands, 6. Mexico, 7. Greece vs Furanohana: 1. France ®, 2. Brazil, 3. Netherlands (E1), 4. Costa-Rica, 5. Chile, 6. Nigeria, 7. xxx Referee comments: Furanohana wins (0-2). My condolences to Kotononami. That was a tough one. Furanohana's gamble pays off, Kotononami's not so much. Saucer Match: Leonishiki vs Chabonowaka (0-1) Leonishiki: "Quel le meilleur gagne !!! Let's go France !!"1. Germany (E1), 2. Brazil, 3. Costa Rica, 4. Switzerland, 5. Nigeria®, 6. Chile, 7. xxx vs Chabonowaka: (The wind whistles through the trees, crickets chirp. We still have not heard from Chabonowaka. We await anxiously to hear from him.) 1. Netherlands ©, 2. Brazil, 3. Mexico, 4. Uruguay, 5. Switzerland, 6. USA, 7. Costa Rica (E1) Referee comments: My previous post had an incorrect result on it, and with corrected results entered... we have a shocker! Chabonowaka wins (0-1) in regular time. I don't think anyone saw that coming. My apologies to Leonishiki for previously listing Germany as a win. I was getting abridged results, and didn't realize the OT nature of the win. My condolences on your loss. So in the end,Furanohana continues on in the cup matches, where I may eventually meet him it seems. Kotononami moves to the bowl matches, where I might have the honor of being his referee again.Chabonowaka stays in the saucer competition.Leonishiki is out. Both my group F players lost.... sad face.Good luck to all in your next matches. Saruyama (THE monkey referee)(Please let me know if there have been any screw ups on my part) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nekonishiki Banji 382 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Couid someone post a full list of the real quarterfinal results? With 90 and 120 minutes ones of each (if there was a draw). I simply can not find any. Thanks in advance. Found one, hopefully a correct one. (I've just been to the doctor for eye-check, I got eye-drops, so I hardly can see now. I'll send the results a bit later.) Edited July 2, 2014 by Nekonishiki Banji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rubensan 0 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 13:26, kuroimori said: Yeehah!!! Wow, scrolling down this post was almost as thrilling as watching a real penalty shoot put drama. When it comes to a penalty shootout, it is all about luck. I was a bit luckier than Rubensan today, so I am humbled to advance after this tough matchup. Yes, really interesting. Colombia was the key in the end. I wasn't expecting them to do such a good World Cup, so you deserved the win for predicting that. Congratulations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 15:57, Nekonishiki Banji said: Couid someone post a full list of the real quarterfinal results? With 90 and 120 minutes ones of each (if there was a draw). I simply can not find any. Thanks in advance. (I've just been to the doctor for eye-check, I got eye-drops, so I hardly can see now. I'll send the results a bit later.) Brazil beat Chile on penalties Columbia beat Uruguay in 90 mins France beat Nigeria in 90 mins Germany beat Algeria in extra time Netherlands beat Mexico in 90 mins Costa Rica beat Greece on penalties Argentina beat Switzerland in extra time Belgium beat USA in extra time I'm off to bed. I'm hoping all matches will be resolved once I wake up ;-) - so we can work out who is facing who in the quarter-finals, and who arte the respective refiojis. For everyone's information, you are allowed one more free pick (E2), which is the last of the competition, so pick carefully - after that free pick, you only have the teams on your squad to guide you through the final rounds. Also, I will be asking for semi-final penalty takers..... (So get thinking ;-)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nekonishiki Banji 382 Posted July 2, 2014 "Nekonishiki" Group :-) Quarterfinal results (please check) Cup match: It was clear, I believe, since both Belgium and Argentina drawed in the first slot, it doesn't score any goal, and chishafuwaku's representative Netherlands beats Chochoporyu's simple Netherlands. The winner is chishafuwaku. Saucer match: After the 90 minutes, neither player could score any goal. We go to 120 minutes calculation. I hope I understood the rules well. Jakusotsu's chain broke in Slot 3, while KikoCookie's didn't break. So we begin the 120 minutes in Slot 4. All teams in Slot 4 and 5 were lost, and the chains broke in Slot 4 (I forgot to mark it, but I think it doesn't matter anyway). No goals yet, the match is still undecided. Start again. I removed those teams which won/lost in 90 minutes (marked with white letters), and put the rest together. I hope I did it well. I think the match is decided in Slot 3, where the draw of Switzerland © brings a goal against the draw of the normal Switzerland. Please confirm or correct. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 17:27, Nekonishiki Banji said: "Nekonishiki" Group :-) Quarterfinal results (please check) Cup match: It was clear, I believe, since both Belgium and Argentina drawed in the first slot, it doesn't score any goal, and chishafuwaku's representative Netherlands beats Chochoporyu's simple Netherlands. The winner is chishafuwaku. Saucer match: After the 90 minutes, neither player could score any goal. We go to 120 minutes calculation. I hope I understood the rules well. Jakusotsu's chain broke in Slot 3, while KikoCookie's didn't break. So we begin the 120 minutes in Slot 4. All teams in Slot 4 and 5 were lost, and the chains broke in Slot 4 (I forgot to mark it, but I think it doesn't matter anyway). No goals yet, the match is still undecided. Start again. I removed those teams which won/lost in 90 minutes (marked with white letters), and put the rest together. I hope I did it well. I think the match is decided in Slot 3, where the draw of Switzerland © brings a goal against the draw of the normal Switzerland. Please confirm or correct. Thanks! No, in extra time, Switzerland lost. So no goal there. It ends up 0-0 after 120 mins - so a penalty shoot-out... KikoCookie (1,2,3) Jakusotsu (4,5,6).... 3 KikoCookie goes first.... Brazil! KikoCookie O???? Jakusotsu ????? . . Klaus up next.... Spain! Opps - the ball whistles over the crossbar! KikoCookie O???? Jakusotsu X???? KikoCookie again... Spain! Same mistake as Jakusotsu... KikoCookie OX??? Jakusotsu X???? Jakusotsu's turn... Argentina! KikoCookie OX??? Jakusotsu XO??? They are level. KikoCookie goes with.... Colombia! Great call, and now.... KikoCookie OXO?? Jakusotsu XO??? Jakusotsu responds with.... Brazil! Nice. KikoCookie OXO?? Jakusotsu XOO?? Are they getting nervous? KikoCookie tries with... Switzerland! The keeper easily caught that one.... KikoCookie OXOX? Jakusotsu XOO?? Can Jakusotsu take advantage? Uruguay! Nope - (he will be regretting Suarez's sudden hunger...) KikoCookie OXOX? Jakusotsu XOOX? We are now effectively at 'sudden death'. KikoCookie steps up.... Argentina! It's in! KikoCookie OXOXO Jakusotsu XOOX? Jakusotsu needs to score to stay in the match... . . . . . Switzerland! The ball ricochets off the upright. KikoCookie OXOXO Jakusotsu XOOXX Well no one likes to lose on penalties.... It's a lottery, but KikoCookie progresses 3-2 on those spot kicks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 It is now 2:20 am here in Hong Kong - and I need to be up in 5 hours time to go to work (and the wife - who is usually very understanding - has already complained a couple of times), so I guess I will not be seeing all round of 16 results before I go to bed. So, we will have to wait until tomorrow for the quarter-final match-ups and refiojis. I guess this will be done during my lunchtime, as I doubt I will be up early enough tomorrow to do anything. Sorry about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nekonishiki Banji 382 Posted July 2, 2014 Thanks, Jezz for helping out. I'll check all of this to understand for the next match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,663 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 12:46, Jejima said: Netherlands is deleted from the line-up for extra-time action. The next team in the line-up takes Netherlands place.Yikes, now that's definitely not the way it was done four years ago... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,192 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Cup/Saucer KO First Round shimodahito 1 1 Terarno Germany (E1) D D Brazil (E1) Argentina D GOAL Argentina © Greece D D Belgium Belgium D BREAK Costa Rica ® Colombia ® GOAL W Colombia Costa RicaDDUSASwitzerlandDDSwitzerlandCOMMENTSshimodahito: La Albiceleste vs Schweizer Nati & Ethniki vs Los Ticos -- hope I got them in the right order! My opponent Terarno has a nearly identical squad with his Yanks and my Ethniki being the only difference. Will he pick GER or BRA as his E1?Terarno: I go for the weak choice of Brazil, abandoning all panache.Refioji Pregame: shimodahito is having a lot of faith in Greece which probably makes this game the decider.Refioji MbM:Sat: Colombia won, but shimodahito somewhat missed the chance for his ® team by placing it rather low.Sun: Not much happening as the only match Costa Rica vs. Greece was drawn.Mon: Only one draw today, but in the important slot 1 position, making it equal. We'll have to wait until the end for a decision.Tue: Two more thrilling draws leave this Cup match in a dizzy of draws as you can see. Terarno made a perfect placement of his © team for the draw, opening the scoring. But his ® on the other hand was badly placed for the draaw breaking his chain. Shimodahito then scores the tieing goal with his ® team winning, but he can't capitalize on the chain break in regulation. So this match ends in a 1:1 and it's on to extra time.Jejima 1 1 Harumataikai Germany D D Germany Argentina (E1) D GOAL Netherlands (E1) France W W Colombia Colombia GOAL D USA Switzerland D D Switzerland Greece ® D L [/td] Algeria D L [/td2] COMMENTSJejima: I have two more teams than Harumataikai. If I have worked this out correctly, that means that my ® team Greece will be facing an empty slot. I think that is good. We also have similar teams. I think I have the edge in this match, unless USA upsets Belgium (could easily happen), or if Harumataikai's free pick (I am guessing it will be Brazil - but it might be Argentina, like me) gets a win, which I can't match.... Harumataikai: Arrrgh, only 4 (plus 1) teams remaining... How could I avoid a 4th loss in a row? Good luck Jejima!Refioji Pregame: All four players in my refjoji section selected different extra teams which speaks for the open nature of this World Cup. Haruamataikai is short handed indeed so Jejima is favoured.Refioji MbM:Sat: Only Colombia in play today, the win gives Harumataikai a slight edge.Sun: The last ditch win for the Netherlands might prove important for Harumataikai.Mon: The France win made life much better for Jejima, but here the decision will be on Tuesday too.Tue: The regulation draws mean a final score of 1:1 in regulation with neither chain broken until the end. Extra time will conveniently start in slot 1 for both players.Extra Time shimodahito 3 2 Terarno Germany (E1) GOAL D Brazil (E1) Argentina W W Argentina © Greece D GOAL Belgium Belgium GOAL BREAK Costa Rica ® Costa Rica D L USA Switzerland L L Switzerland Refioji MbM:Extra Time: It starts all over with only Colombia removed which seems tough for shimodahito as this was his winning ® team. But after Germany and Belgium scores goals for each side the Costa Rica © team again makes the chain break, this time breaking Terarno's own chain with the draw after 120 minutes. Well, he wouldn't have scored a goal anyway so the final score his 2:1 for shimodahito after extra time.Jejima 2 1 Harumataikai Germany W W Germany Argentina (E1) GOAL BREAK USA Switzerland L L Switzerland Greece ® D Algeria L Refioji MbM:Extra time: Harumataikai doesn't have any firepower left as his sole extra time win Germany is neutralised. Jejima just has enough juice with the late Argentina win to copy the close extra time win of the real Argentina. Final score is 2:1 here as well. Edited July 3, 2014 by Doitsuyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,663 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Hurray for never deleting emails... Apologies to Jejima for quoting from a mail exchange, but it's the only way here: rules said: Extra time play starts from the point in the 'chain' where the player whose chain broke last was broken. (I.e. Player A's chain broke on the 2nd slot. Player B's chain broke on the 5th slot. Extra time *for both players* starts from the 6th slot.) If either chain remains unbroken (including the default losses to fill the empty slots) to the last team in the squad, the chain continues starting from the first slot again. However, all real matches that were decided in 90 minutes are now removed (so only the matches that had previously counted as 'draws', but which may now have a result after the 120 minutes, are now counted for this second run through). This 'start again' only happens once. Asashosakari said: Question: Does this mean players' slots will "combine" differently in the restarted chains, e.g. one player's first team could now be matched with the other player's second team? Or am I totally misunderstanding the scheme? Jejima said: No, the slots remain the same. Always 1st vs 1st etc. Asashosakari said: So what's getting compared (and how, specifically) if one player's team has been removed because it already won or lost in 90 mins and the other player's team is still there for the same slot? Jejima said: Very good point - and it will require clarification for the [bWC mailing] list. A 'removed team' acts as a 'draw' for that slot. amended rules said: However, all real matches that were decided in 90 minutes are now removed (so only the matches that had previously counted as 'draws', but which may now have a result after the 120 minutes, are now counted for this second run through). **These removed matches are now treated the same as 'draws' for the purpose of this game - with the special rules removed for ® and (B) teams.** This 'start again' only happens once. Edit: That rule clarification appears to have gone AWOL when the rules were hastily adapted/reposted for the Euro 2012 edition, so that's probably why it's missing this time as well. Edited July 2, 2014 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Holy shit! Jezz...since everyone took the time to send penalty lads, instead of this extra-time system no one seems to have a clue about, why not just do a penalty shoot-out for every draw we have. At least everyone can understand and accept that...it's simple and effective. Just a suggestion! Otherwise, in my future refioji-ing assignments, I'll be praying that it isn't a draw!!! Edited July 2, 2014 by Pandaazuma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 2, 2014 On 02/07/2014 at 22:43, Asashosakari said: Hurray for never deleting emails... Apologies to Jejima for quoting from a mail exchange, but it's the only way here: rules said: Extra time play starts from the point in the 'chain' where the player whose chain broke last was broken. (I.e. Player A's chain broke on the 2nd slot. Player B's chain broke on the 5th slot. Extra time *for both players* starts from the 6th slot.) If either chain remains unbroken (including the default losses to fill the empty slots) to the last team in the squad, the chain continues starting from the first slot again. However, all real matches that were decided in 90 minutes are now removed (so only the matches that had previously counted as 'draws', but which may now have a result after the 120 minutes, are now counted for this second run through). This 'start again' only happens once. Asashosakari said: Question: Does this mean players' slots will "combine" differently in the restarted chains, e.g. one player's first team could now be matched with the other player's second team? Or am I totally misunderstanding the scheme? Jejima said: No, the slots remain the same. Always 1st vs 1st etc. Asashosakari said: So what's getting compared (and how, specifically) if one player's team has been removed because it already won or lost in 90 mins and the other player's team is still there for the same slot? Jejima said: Very good point - and it will require clarification for the [bWC mailing] list. A 'removed team' acts as a 'draw' for that slot. amended rules said: However, all real matches that were decided in 90 minutes are now removed (so only the matches that had previously counted as 'draws', but which may now have a result after the 120 minutes, are now counted for this second run through). **These removed matches are now treated the same as 'draws' for the purpose of this game - with the special rules removed for ® and (B) teams.** This 'start again' only happens once. Edit: That rule clarification appears to have gone AWOL when the rules were hastily adapted/reposted for the Euro 2012 edition, so that's probably why it's missing this time as well. Yikes! I wake up late (and I am already late for work), and see that everything is a little messy. Clearly the Jejima of four years ago thought differently to the Jejima of today (Must be married life). Thanks to Asashosakari for doing the research. Looks like I am going to be busy at lunchtime again.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,415 Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) Okay, it's now 3:30 pm, Michelle (Fujiko) is asleep on the sofa. Time to sort things out (I am still very sleepy, so may make mistakes.) First, a very big apology to all players and refiojis for my repeated mistakes. Secondly, Asashosakari is correct, all matches already used that end in 90 mins count as normal team draws for extra time. Next, I think the best way is to go through all the round of 16 matches, and put all of the results together in one post. I'll double check them all. (This is where I am worried, as has been seen, I too make big mistakes - so please can someone confirm them...) Then, I'll announce the matches for the quarter-finals, and the refiojis. Finally, I'll announce the request for semi-final penalty takers. Edited July 3, 2014 by Jejima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites