Kyushu 2014 - General Talk

[Propmanoz 1]

Not the best looking kinboshi one has ever seen, but I suppose it gets the job done....

[Morty 1,495]

Tochiozan should have won two days in a row and lost both of them. Hak knew he got away with that one today - the look on his face as he took the kensho was priceless

[ALAKTORN 346]

Kyokutenhō, Ichinojō and Tochinoshin are impressing me.

[Benevolance 2,501]

I seem to recall that back during Harumafuji's early yokozuna run/tenure, he was getting a lot of grief from the YDC for relying on his wicked harite, and not using forward moving sumo, etc. In a case like this, though, where his opponent wants to bring the slapfest, surely Harumafuji could dust off the ol' knock-out palms and show Takayasu how it's done?

[Gurowake 4,053]

Day 3 Lower division notables:

Onosho(1-1) loses to Masunoyama(2-0); the latter may be over the injury that kept him out most of Aki and he might just be back in Juryo in Hatsu.

Abiko(1-1) beats Kyokutaisei(0-2); the latter never really seemed all that convincing when he was in Juryo, and two straight losses to rikishi with no Juryo experience make it look like he probably won't get back - at least not for next basho.

Shodai wins against Daionami to move to 2-0. He's probably still facing guys well under his skill level and may compete for the Makushita Yusho.

Daikiho(2-0) beats Hamaguchi(1-1) in what may have been for the Sandanme Yusho, unless Daikiho falls apart again. Now with two wins after 3 absolutely dreadful basho, he may be back on track.

Ishii(1-1) loses to a guy that's been active for almost 20 years and has had one Makushita appearance (Satonofuji); Ishii doesn't seem to be nearly the same quality of rikishi than the other guys we had start this year with strong Jk showings. In his two losses during Aki he didn't look very good, but he was at least fighting guys that had gotten 5 wins. Now with a third loss in Jonidan (along with a Jk loss to Hamaguchi) he's apparently going to need some more experience before he rises up the ranks much.

Ryuden is also 2-0, but you probably could have guessed that.

[Asashosakari 19,331]

Ishii(1-1) loses to a guy that's been active for almost 20 years and has had one Makushita appearance (Satonofuji);

Take a look at Satonofuji's kimarite profile - anyone can lose to that guy. :-)

[dingo 1,263]

The Big Sandy talk I heard from all the die hard fans who sit and watch sumo all day everyday (mostly retired people obviously) was that there was talk among wrestlers (especially ones that had taken the forearm) that Osuna could very well be hiding some piece of metal or the like in the wrapping he had on his forearm when he executed that "move". Regardless of the veracity of this claim, it seems the forearm move is no longer in Big Sandy's repetoire.

Well then Hakuho's skeleton must be laced with adamantium... ;)

[Kotoshoumi 31]

Ichinojo always looks so freakishly calm and calculating... Always biding his time, waiting for the right moment to make his move. I dig his style!
I think we can also conclude that his pre-basho injuries were part of his gameplan.

Hakuho-Tochiozan was unbelievably close to being a gigantic upset. The way Hakuho managed to reverse an otherwise critical situation: digging that too!

So far Kyushu basho doesn't dissapoint!

Edited November 11, 2014 by Kotoshoumi

[kuroimori 1,634]

Edit: Apparently some guys here are much smarter to spot that out much quicker than me... :)

Yup, that solution was far too simple for me to find. B-)

Actually having lived in Japan for some years helped.

You become more flexible - or confused? - when you learn that parties can last from 22:00 until 29:00(!) o'clock or when you can choose to write from left to right or from top to bottom (or even from right to left not so long ago)

[Asameshimae 220]

When I am asking myself of whether I have heard it all, then that comes to light: a bloody metal piece. But it has to be the foreigner. No way he would be good enough otherwise. It serves to prove of what a saying in my home country goes - if only by watching you are supposed to get good at something, the stadium stands should be the best football players around.

The wrestlers I heard among his accusers were also a few other foreigners. Though I understand your sentiment. In my opinion if you got hit under the chin with any thing harder than bone that it would be immediately obvious assuming it didn't just knock you out at the get go - and his supposed transgression would have been exposed pretty quickly.

[Asameshimae 220]

Edit: Apparently some guys here are much smarter to spot that out much quicker than me... :)

Yup, that solution was far too simple for me to find. B-)

Actually having lived in Japan for some years helped.

You become more flexible - or confused? - when you learn that parties can last from 22:00 until 29:00(!) o'clock or when you can choose to write from left to right or from top to bottom (or even from right to left not so long ago)

You still see right to left writing sometimes, especially on local government vehicles. It always makes me look twice.

[Treblemaker 254]

Acknowledging the longevity of Kyokutenho, even with the yusho, I think the one competitive constant up there is Amiinishiki. As bandaged up as he is (and I've been watching him for years, and cannot remember him without some form of leg adornment), he continues to maintain some kind of upper-level standing, and still represents a dangerous opponent to someone not paying attention.

It is me dozing off, or has this basho thus far been henka-free?

Those of us watching over the last 8-10 years have been treated to a blessing of top level Yokozuna-hood in terms of talent and skill. Asa had everything in terms of moves and arsenal. Hakuho is Mr. Consistency. HF has guts and cunning. Three different styles, and I think we have been privileged to watch these guys in action.

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Indeed! Utterly ludicrous. Must be a joke?

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Wow...had no idea it was that bad regarding the threats and racism. As for the hate...all too well aware of that.

I wish Boody all the best...hope he recovers quickly from his injuries and shows everyone what he is capable of.

[Mongolith 51]

Ichinojo may want to mix it up a bit. Keeps using a weak ass tai-chi then shifting back and to the side for a throw. Nothing like his performance last basho were he trucked over Goeido.

[Jakusotsu 5,969]

Just watched Kintamayama's excellent recap: Calling hansoku for Sadanoumi is the most ridiculous hairpull decision I've ever seen! Sadanoumi didn't even close his fingers, he just pushed down Chiyootori's head.

If they call that foul, they better abolish all kubi-related kimarite altogether.

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Jaku: Right...couldn't believe it. And Tori was my only different pick in SG...but even I was outraged!!

[Morty 1,495]

I really wish Chiyotairu would give up the one trick pony predictable push-pull routine he's got into. He's got such an explosive tachai but he's not making the most of it - he seems to have only one move these days and everyone is expecting it. I still have high hopes for him but he has to mix it up a bit and make the most of his obvious talent or he's going to remain stuck in the middle ranks.

[Jakusotsu 5,969]

Just finished watching, and by their new standard Takarafuji should have won by hansoku as well.

[Gurowake 4,053]

Just finished watching, and by their new standard Takarafuji should have won by hansoku as well.

I had the exact same thought. The only thing the Sadanoumi appeared to do was push down on the head where the mage was, and Hakuho did basically the exact same thing. No one wanted to call a mono-ii for Hakuho though.

[CT3* 331]

Sadanoumi and Hakuho's bouts didn't look that similar, imo. Hand placement on back of the head was different and Hakuho's hand/palm was clearly open. In the replay, it looked like Sadanoumi might have committed a hairpull, but Hakuho's pushdown didn't give the same impression.

[Masumasumasu 902]

The Big Sandy talk I heard from all the die hard fans who sit and watch sumo all day everyday (mostly retired people obviously) was that there was talk among wrestlers (especially ones that had taken the forearm) that Osuna could very well be hiding some piece of metal or the like in the wrapping he had on his forearm when he executed that "move". Regardless of the veracity of this claim, it seems the forearm move is no longer in Big Sandy's repetoire.

I've seen some BS on this forum before but that takes the biscuit. Gotta say bud I'm really surprised you would put that kind of nonsense out there. Even if you did hear it from the drunk gossipers, it's surprising you didn't have the common sense to dismiss it immediately. Is all the negativity your masu mate pours out finally getting to you?

1) People are entitled to their opinions. To blame me for another person's comment is like blaming Booty for the atrocities of ISIS.

2) One person's 'negativity' is another person's reality.

[ALAKTORN 346]

What nonsense are you people spouting? Hakuhō’s hatakikomi was absolutely nothing like what Sadanoumi did. Sadanoumi had clearly closed fingers, in Chiyoōtori’s hair. Notice how you can see black all around his hand– he was in the hair. With Hakuhō, you see pink around his hand– he was on the neck. Also, Hakuhō’s fingers were open.

Kyokutenhō has another amazing start!! I love this guy. 40 years old and still being so competitive, beating rikishi left and right that I thought he had no chance of beating.

Edited November 12, 2014 by ALAKTORN

[Kintamayama 45,137]

Ishii(1-1) loses to a guy that's been active for almost 20 years and has had one Makushita appearance (Satonofuji);

Take a look at Satonofuji's kimarite profile - anyone can lose to that guy. :-)

They don't let just anyone off the street be the yumitorikishi..

Edited November 12, 2014 by Kintamayama

[Mongolith 51]

I don't think either were a hairpull. Last basho I thought Haramafujis dq was legitimate, not that it mattered anyway as he went kuyo. On these replays I did not see enough to dq Sada or call a monoii for haks bout.

Edited November 12, 2014 by Mongolith