yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted March 16, 2015 All records that were mentioned here have a specific meaning. A baseball stat would be "Top user of yorikiri on Days 9". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unkonoyama 105 Posted March 16, 2015 So many obscure and irrelevant "records and statistics" that are hugely influenced by baseball themed data prevalent in US sport broadcasting. Who would strike out a left hander on a windy night under lights in fair temperatures. GTFOH. I know that there are many US citizens/residents on the board but please...... As the England cricket coach pointed out to each question in regards why his team did not undertake a different approach, why his team did not bat first, why did he not choose different players against Bangladesh in what was the game that knocked them out of the WC - "But the data suggested......" Yeah, it has its place in the sport, but is hardly illuminating. As an American that watches a lot of baseball, I would tend to agree that a lot of baseball stats are not overly interesting/useful to most people. This is because in baseball, math people have created stats like WAR that attempt to compare real world performance to arbitrary/imaginary entities. These sort of artificial comparisons are not of interest to me so I generally ignore them. That said, I think these sumo stats are completely different in nature. Here, we are comparing real performance by real rikishi to other real rikishi in history. No one is creating some imaginary shin sanyaku or whatever to use as an arbitrary "baseline". Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I personally find it very interesting to see how the top dogs of today stack up to past eras. I guess what I am trying to say is, keep those sumo stats coming! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintofuji 18 Posted March 16, 2015 Hakuho now has the longest streak of consecutive basho with at least 9 wins (49 basho). Previous best was Kitanoumi (48). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,522 Posted March 17, 2015 Chiyoootori won by hansoku yesterday. It's the third straight basho he wins by hansoku!! I find this totally crazy. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,522 Posted March 17, 2015 Hakuhou-49th consecutive basho with double digit wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 675 Posted March 17, 2015 Chiyoootori won by hansoku yesterday. It's the third straight basho he wins by hansoku!! I find this totally crazy. That must be one of the craziest coincidences I can remember :-O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,522 Posted March 17, 2015 First time in 14 years that the Osaka basho will sell out all days. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,761 Posted March 17, 2015 Chiyoootori won by hansoku yesterday. It's the third straight basho he wins by hansoku!! I find this totally crazy. Also the third hansoku loss by Ikioi, matching the record set by Aran (albeit Ikioi's first was in Juryo, while Aran did all his pulling in Makuuchi). Ironic that Ikioi's biggest fan is immune to such shenanigans... :-P 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted March 17, 2015 That hansoku mage business is getting out of hand (no pun intended). Apparently they changed the criteria I heard and this is why we are seeing more of it? I realize the mage thing is also a conduct issue and not just a tactics issue but in the vast majority of cases rikishi are just helping a guy to the dirt when they are charged with the mage hansoku - giving a little pull at this point seems it would give them little advantage, and regardless it is usually incidental. I realize this is a taboo issue first and foremost so why can't touching you opponent's hair (which is essentially one big mage) with your hand not be a hansoku? I am probably wrong but it seems if you just made the hair off limits it would be less arbitrary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted March 17, 2015 A little research tells me that grabbing the throat is also a kinjite/hansoku. Yet nodowa is quite common, and it would be difficult I would think as a shimpan to distinguish between nodowa and throat grabbing. And of course it can't be good for your throat/neck and rikishi have been known to get their vocal cords permanently damaged. Yeah I know nodowa looks cool - you think these guys are tough she you see someone fighting through it. But it seems a better clear cut candidate for hansoku than mage pulling - as a for instance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintofuji 18 Posted March 17, 2015 Hakuho overtakes Wakanosato for 6th place in career wins (905, Wakanosato has 904 wins). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,522 Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Edited November 25, 2017 by Kintamayama 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted March 18, 2015 a_broken_record_.jpg you now have broken the record for breaking records on this forum - and of course off the record. Phew, now I need a break... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asameshimae 220 Posted March 18, 2015 a_broken_record_.jpg you now have broken the record for breaking records on this forum - and of course off the record. Phew, now I need a break... Kuroimori, you sound like a broken record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted March 18, 2015 a_broken_record_.jpg you now have broken the record for breaking records on this forum - and of course off the record. Phew, now I need a break... Kuroimori, you sound like a broken record. What makrs you say tha..what makes you say tha..What makes you say tha.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintofuji 18 Posted March 18, 2015 Hakuho sets new records for most career basho with at least 10 wins (58, previous record was Taiho with 57) and most career basho with at least 11 wins (56, previous record was Taiho with 55). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiomitsuki 408 Posted March 22, 2015 New record.... that improves each basho The last time, a rikishi from Japan has won the Yusho (9 years and two months, 54 Bashos, since 2006.01) Last record : 10 months, 4 Bashos (from 2003.11-2004.09) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tikozan 4 Posted March 22, 2015 But who could be the next rikishi from Japan (Yusho winner...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 119 Posted March 23, 2015 Hakuho is now record winner of the Haru or Osaka Basho with 6 wins. It took him 34 Yusho to got this record for a Honbasho! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,511 Posted March 23, 2015 Sheesh. That wasn't very efficient, was it? He could have done it with as few as 6 yuusho. Maybe he's not as good as we're giving him credit? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,612 Posted March 24, 2015 Hakuho is now record winner of the Haru or Osaka Basho with 6 wins. It took him 34 Yusho to got this record for a Honbasho! I think he got the Aki Basho record before also with 6 tournament wins (Ok, together with Taiho and Takanohana). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alaninjapan 18 Posted March 25, 2015 Love all of the stats and top 10 lists. keep'em coming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,651 Posted March 25, 2015 Some utterly random stuff: In last year's Hatsu basho, Endo became the 250th different sansho winner. (We're up to 253 now with Sadanoumi, Ichinojo and Terunofuji the most recent first-timers.) And in last September, the 1111th sansho was handed out. (Up to 1119 now.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,651 Posted May 14, 2015 Kyokutenho is now the sole leader in career makuuchi bouts with 1445, passing Kaio. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted May 14, 2015 Kyokutenho is now the sole leader in career makuuchi bouts with 1445, passing Kaio. Really amazing. Only a day or two ago I was reminiscing (privately) with Nishinoshima and a UK fan of the early days of the Oshima-beya six (the very first Mongolians in sumo, incase you didn't know), when every time any one of them stepped out into the street he was escorted by an anideshi -- to make quite sure there were no cultural problems. But oh boy! didn't Oshima oyakata get it right! Orion, recalling all of them walking around with regular hair .... Orion 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
