Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted March 18, 2015 Wasn't really paying attention at the time, but I think the NHK lads said Aminishiki's injury needs a month for recovery. I'd personally like to see him sit Natsu out and come back from lower Makuuchi in Nagoya...but you know what these lads are like! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted March 18, 2015 Wasn't really paying attention at the time, but I think the NHK lads said Aminishiki's injury needs a month for recovery. I'd personally like to see him sit Natsu out and come back from lower Makuuchi in Nagoya...but you know what these lads are like! while I am not really familiar with medical vocab in Japanese, I heard the NHK guy list up at least 3 ligament injuries, one should be the inner crucial ligament, likely a torn ligament (danretsu?). As usual, you should take the indicated resting/healing time 1 month in this case and multiply it by at least 4 to get an adequate recovery time. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,049 Posted March 18, 2015 I'm surprised there were any ligaments left in Ami's knee to be damaged. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,661 Posted March 19, 2015 while I am not really familiar with medical vocab in Japanese, I heard the NHK guy list up at least 3 ligament injuries, one should be the inner crucial ligament, likely a torn ligament (danretsu?).Torn ACL, plus MCL and meniscus damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted March 19, 2015 while I am not really familiar with medical vocab in Japanese, I heard the NHK guy list up at least 3 ligament injuries, one should be the inner crucial ligament, likely a torn ligament (danretsu?).Torn ACL, plus MCL and meniscus damage. It sounds pretty serious, and I really feel sorry for Aminishiki. Mods: I think we have not only an "Endo situation" but an "Aminishiki situation" as well. Perhaps time to split the comments about Ami's injuries in a separate thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted March 19, 2015 It sounds pretty serious, and I really feel sorry for Aminishiki. Mods: I think we have not only an "Endo situation" but an "Aminishiki situation" as well. Perhaps time to split the comments about Ami's injuries in a separate thread? Aminishiki has been compensating for knee ligament damage for 10-15 years. During that time, he has only gone kyujo 5 times and never for more than one basho. He is now 36 yoa. Soon, there will come a time that he will have to hang it up, but I would put money on his return in May, and I would expect him to pull off a KK. There is a good reason why he is one of my favorite rikishi. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unkonoyama 105 Posted March 19, 2015 It sounds pretty serious, and I really feel sorry for Aminishiki. Mods: I think we have not only an "Endo situation" but an "Aminishiki situation" as well. Perhaps time to split the comments about Ami's injuries in a separate thread? Aminishiki has been compensating for knee ligament damage for 10-15 years. During that time, he has only gone kyujo 5 times and never for more than one basho. He is now 36 yoa. Soon, there will come a time that he will have to hang it up, but I would put money on his return in May, and I would expect him to pull off a KK. There is a good reason why he is one of my favorite rikishi. For what it is worth, Aminishiki recently posted on his blog something to the effect of "I'll be back always". I truly hope you are both right, but based on the news report describing his injury May seems very optimistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted March 19, 2015 Oh I do so hope that Aminishiki will be back. He may have dropped out before, but he never missed a basho. I suppose he is clever enough to know when it is really over, but I fervently hope that he will grace the dohyo for a while yet. I just can't imagine Makuuchi without him! * *or without Kyokutenho for that matter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas21 188 Posted March 19, 2015 I'd put my money that he call it quits. It's sad, but I think about the enjoyment he has given us all these years. Have you seen his face, right after it happened? Torn ACL, plus MCL and meniscus damage. I think I have an idea what it looks like in the knee if these happen together in the same event. Knee is dislocated in more than one dimension. Next time the shank gets loose. (Exaggerating a bit ... not much.) I'm surprised there were any ligaments left in Ami's knee to be damaged. That's a joke, isn't it? The braces are just there to protect them, the main duty to hold everything in its place are still at the ligaments. With a really broken knee he could barely walk, let alone do any type of sports (darts maybe). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasutera 258 Posted March 19, 2015 If he DOES retire, it seems rather heroic to go out going kachikoshi and only being stopped by an injury. If he were Klingon that would earn him entry into Sto'vo'kor for sure. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted March 20, 2015 Qapla'! Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alaninjapan 18 Posted March 20, 2015 If he does retire, I hope NHK and the sumo establishment give him some sort of roving reporter gig. It would be the best incentive I can think of to improve my Japanese enough to follow his witty commentary. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted March 20, 2015 Didn't he have a coaching spot waiting for him? It's not clever to let all that experience slip away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted March 20, 2015 Aminishiki owns the Ajigawa kabu according to the database. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chishafuwaku 476 Posted March 20, 2015 Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam. Today is a good day to die (Shaking head...) chishafuwaku 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted March 21, 2015 Bah! Aminishiki will be back soon and will wonder us for another 10-15 bashos. And I really like his sense of humor :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,294 Posted March 21, 2015 Bah! Aminishiki will be back soon and will wonder us for another 10-15 bashos. And I really like his sense of humor :)I hope you're right. I still dont get what's causing all the injuries this basho. Is it just particularly bad luck? Although when I see rikishi tumbling off from the dohyo I sometimes do think that it's a wonder they don't get injured more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted March 21, 2015 I think one of the first things a new wrestler learns is how to tumble without injury. The second might be dealing with a great weight disparity and avoiding getting cushed, or we would see many more injuries like Endo's. Sumo is all about attack and turning defense into an attack. There does not seem to be much room for protecting one's joints; being limber enough to take punishment must be a major part of training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,294 Posted March 21, 2015 I think one of the first things a new wrestler learns is how to tumble without injury. The second might be dealing with a great weight disparity and avoiding getting cushed, or we would see many more injuries like Endo's. Sumo is all about attack and turning defense into an attack. There does not seem to be much room for protecting one's joints; being limber enough to take punishment must be a major part of training. They do learn to tumble, but I don't think any heya has an elevated dohyo like they use during honbasho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted March 22, 2015 Bah! Aminishiki will be back soon and will wonder us for another 10-15 bashos. And I really like his sense of humor :)I hope you're right.I still dont get what's causing all the injuries this basho. Is it just particularly bad luck? Although when I see rikishi tumbling off from the dohyo I sometimes do think that it's a wonder they don't get injured more often. While probably above normal, I don't think the number of injuries this basho is particularly excessive. They ended up affecting some of the highest profile rikishi, so you probably noticed it a lot more this time around. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,294 Posted March 22, 2015 Bah! Aminishiki will be back soon and will wonder us for another 10-15 bashos. And I really like his sense of humor :)I hope you're right.I still dont get what's causing all the injuries this basho. Is it just particularly bad luck? Although when I see rikishi tumbling off from the dohyo I sometimes do think that it's a wonder they don't get injured more often. While probably above normal, I don't think the number of injuries this basho is particularly excessive. They ended up affecting some of the highest profile rikishi, so you probably noticed it a lot more this time around. You're probably right, though I suppose I also assume that high-profile rikishi would be experienced enough to avoid injuries. Of course usually it happens in a splitsecond, but there's some kind of situation that leads up to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted April 27, 2015 Does anyone know if he plans to return in May? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted April 29, 2015 Does anyone know if he plans to return in May? Seems like still planning on participating? http://ameblo.jp/ami-nishiki/page-2.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasutera 258 Posted April 29, 2015 Does anyone know if he plans to return in May? Seems like still planning on participating? http://ameblo.jp/ami-nishiki/page-2.html Skimming the first few posts I didn't see anything saying he would or wouldn't enter Natsu, but he does remark specifically that he wasn't able to participate in the soken keiko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumozumo 240 Posted April 30, 2015 Whoops, it seems like he posts so often... Sorry, I'll link directly to the post in question: http://ameblo.jp/ami-nishiki/entry-12019763894.html?frm_src=thumb_module (what's a thumb module?) Anyway, this statement: 言い表せない感謝の気持ちは土俵の上に元気に立つ姿をみせる事で お返ししたいと思い、 場所に向けて頑張ります Makes me feel that he's trying to return, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
