Trivia bits

[Benihana 1,916]

I think the last - and only - time we had two Ozeki at 13-1 before senshuraku was 1953.05. Yoshibayama beat Tochinishiki, but the yusho and kanto-sho went to 15-0 M6 Tokitsuyama. The yusho was already won by Tokitsuyama 8 bouts before Yoshibayama and Tochinishiki met. So this might be the first time where two 13-1 Ozeki meet on senshuraku for the yusho.

 

Edited November 23 by Benihana

[Yarimotsu 550]

11 hours ago, Benihana said:

I think the last - and only - time we had two Ozeki at 13-1 before senshuraku was 1953.05. Yoshibayama beat Tochinishiki, but the yusho and kanto-sho went to 15-0 M6 Tokitsuyama. The yusho was already won by Tokitsuyama 8 bouts before Yoshibayama and Tochinishiki met. So this might be the first time where two 13-1 Ozeki meet on senshuraku for the yusho.

 

To simplify, it's been a whole 11 years since any bout has occurred between two opponents on exactly 13 wins.

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&wins1=13&winsopt1=1&onlyw1=on&wins2=13&winsopt2=1

There are 21 such occurrences, and with the exception of a strange 2012 outlier in Juryo these bouts are the exclusive domain of yokozuna and ozeki, and generally the very greatest of these. No others are allowed such scheduling.

[Tigerboy1966 1,417]

Terunofuji has been at y1e since November 2021, that's 19 consecutive basho. Looks like a record to me.

[Faustonowaka 115]

Asashoryu says no

[Tsubame 359]

53 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Terunofuji has been at y1e since November 2021, that's 19 consecutive basho. Looks like a record to me.

 

22 minutes ago, Faustonowaka said:

Asashoryu says no

 

Consecutive basho as Y1e:

1. Asashoryu: 27 (2003.05 - 2007.09)

2. Terunofuji: 19 (2021.11 - 2024.11*)

3. Hakuho: 18 (2010.01 - 2013.01)

4. Chiyonofuji: 17 (1985.01- 1987.09)

5. Taiho: 11 (1962.01 - 1964.05)

5. Akebono: 11 (1993.05 - 1994.11)

*active streak

Edited November 24 by Tsubame
corrected minor mistakes

[Jakusotsu 5,876]

2 hours ago, Tsubame said:

Consecutive basho as Y1e:

1. Asashoryu: 27 (2003.05 - 2007.09)

2. Terunofuji: 19 (2021.11 - 2024.11*)

3. Hakuho: 18 (2010.01 - 2013.01)

4. Chiyonofuji: 17 (1985.01- 1987.09)

5. Taiho: 11 (1962.01 - 1964.05)

5. Akebono: 11 (1993.05 - 1994.11)

*active streak

Bonus question: What makes Taiho special in this context?

[RabidJohn 1,725]

28 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Bonus question: What makes Taiho special in this context?

He had the most competition; i.e. more Y on the banzuke.

[rokudenashi 298]

28 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Bonus question: What makes Taiho special in this context?

Off the top of my head, is it that he's the only one that always had at least one other Yokozuna on the banzuke during his streak?

[RabidJohn 1,725]

6 minutes ago, rokudenashi said:

Off the top of my head, is it that he's the only one that always had at least one other Yokozuna on the banzuke during his streak?

Tbh, the stat is meaningless when there isn't at least one other yokozuna on the banzuke. Terunofuji's position on the list demonstrates that.

[Gurowake 4,021]

Tamawashi ended up one loss short of tying the record for most 7-8 scores in a row after Kyushu 2024.  That gives him 6 scores of 8-7 or 7-8 in a row.  From what I can tell based on this query the record is 10 with Kotonowaka 1991.05 through 1992.11.  There's also two series of 9 in Juryo from Sawahikari 1962.03 to 1963.07 and Tokushinho 2012.01 to 2013.05.  There's 5 series of 8 and 9 series of 7.

Interestingly if you just look at consecutive 7 win tournaments as in this query, the record is actually 6 - back in 1812-1815 when that meant losing far less matches than 7 wins as a sekitori does today.

Edited November 24 by Gurowake

[Faustonowaka 115]

Kaio had six 8-7’s in 2009 

[Asashosakari 19,023]

As far as the DB can tell me, there has been exactly one juryo rikishi in the history of 15-day tournaments who faced an opponent lineup that was ranked entirely contiguous with himself: Kyokutaisei in Haru 2017 was ranked J6w and faced everybody from J1w to J6e (10 opponents) and J7e to J9e (5).

(Only lineups contained within the juryo division; querying for cases that include adjacent maegashira or makushita rikishi is infeasible due to ever-changing division sizes.)

[Gurowake 4,021]

I mentioned in the current Yokozuna speculation thread about how Kakuyru had not managed another run of tournaments that would have gotten him promoted to Ozeki after his actual promotion, at least up to his Yokozuna run.  I'm been thinking about this feat in general for those who are career-high Ozeki, and wondered how often they tended to achieve numbers for an Ozeki promotion again.  For the purposes of this, I'm going to count a successful run as being 33/3 with a Yusho counting as an additional win, with at least 10 in the last tournament, and all KKs.  There have been some promotions slightly more lenient than this, but I need to draw the line somewhere.  In terms of counting them, the runs can overlap such that a string of 4 11-4s would count as two successful runs.  With that in mind, the 1-2 tournaments just before being promoted to Ozeki run can be combined with the first 1-2 results as Ozeki to add to the completed promotion run count and similarly the 10 win automatic repromotion can count toward a run.  If the rikishi was promoted with a run weaker than my standard, I'll subtract one from their successful run count, and if they were to meet my criteria with all three sanyaku basho and weren't promoted, I will add one.  I will not be counting the times that an Ozeki was promoted the normal way twice in their career.

I'll be starting with Ozeki that were promoted in 1956 or later, slightly before the 6 basho era, as there were still around the same number of tournaments the couple years before they went all the way to 6 per year.  Maybe Ouchiyama and Mitsuneyama deserve to be on here too, but I had to pick a date.  I also won't bother listing the current Ozeki.

Matsunobori - 0

Kotogahama - non-promotion 1957.05 -> 1957.11 +1

1958.01 -> 1958.07  +2

159.03 -> 1959.07 +1

Total = +4

Wakahaguro - weak promotion run -1

1959.07 -> 1959.11 +1

Net = 0

Kitabayama - weak promotion run -1

1963.05 -> 1963.09 +1

1964.03 -> 1964.09 +2

Net = +2

Tochihikari

1962.03 -> 1962.09 +2

1963.03 -> 1963.07 +1

Total = +3

Yutakayama

1963.05 -> 1963.09 +1

1964.05 -> 1964.11 +2

Total = +3

Kiyokuni - weak promotion run -1

1969.03 -> 1969.07 +1

Net = 0

Maenoyama - 0

Daikirin - 0

Takanohana

1974.11 -> 1975.03 +1

1976.11 -> 1977.05 +2

Total = +3

Daiju - 0

Kaiketsu - weak promotion run -1

1974.11 -> 1975.05 +2

Net +1

Asahikuni - 0

Masuiyama - weak promotion run -1

Kotokaze - weak promotion run -1

1981.07 -> 1982.01 +2

1982.09 -> 1984.01 +7

Net = +8

Wakashimazu

1982.09 -> 1983.01 +1

1983.05 -> 1984.03 +4

1984.03 -> 1984.11 +3

Total = +8

Asashio - 1984.11 -> 1985.05 +2

Hokutenyu - 1985.07 -> 1985.11 +1

Konishiki

1987.05 -> 1987.09 +1

1987.09 -> 1988.01 +1

1989.11 -> 1990.07 +3

1991.03 -> 1992.03 +5

1992.03 -> 1992.07 +1http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=7

Total = +11

Kirishima

1990.09 -> 1991.01 +1

1991.05 -> 1991.09 +1

Total = +2

Takanonami

1993.11 -> 1994.03 +1

1994.03 -> 1995.01 +4

1995.11 -> 1996.07 +3

1997.07 -> 1998.01 +2

Total = +10

Chiyotaikai

2002.05 -> 2002.09 +1

2003.03 -> 2003.07 +1

2003.11 -> 2004.03 +1

Total = +3

Dejima - 1999.05 -> 1999.11 +2

Musoyama - 0

Miyabiyama - 0 - did have another run that qualified, but that was while not an Ozeki, so isn't counted.

Kaio

2000.05 -> 2000.11 +2

2000.11 -> 2001.03 +1

2003.03 -> 2003.07 +1

2003.11 -> 2004.11 +5

Total = +9

Tochizauma

2001.09 -> 2002.05 +3

2005.01 -> 2005.05 +1

Total +4

Kotooshu - 2005.09 -> 2006.01 +1

Kotomitsuki - 2007.05 -> 2007.11 +2

Baruto - non-promotion 2009.09 -> 2010.01 +1

2010.01 -> 2010.05 +1

2011.09 -> 2012.03 +2

Total = +4

Kotoshogiku

2011.07 -> 2011.11 +1

2015.09 -> 2016.01 +1

2016.01 -> 2016.05 +1

Total = +3

Goeido - weak promotion run -1

Tochinoshin - 0

Takakeisho - non-promotion 2018.09 -> 2019.01 +1

2020.07 -> 2020.11 +1

2022.07 -> 2023.01 +2

Total = +4

Still Active but not Ozeki:

Takayasu - 2017.11 -> 2018.03 +1

Asanoyama - weak promotion -1

2020.01 -> 2020.09 +2

Net = +1

Shodai - 0

Mitakeumi - 2021.11 -> 2022.03 +1

Kirishima(II) - 2023.09 -> 2024.01 +1
 

So Goeido at least has some company as an Ozeki who never had a proper Ozeki run, and there are many others that never achieved the feat again, and still others that only did so rarely.  However, there are also plenty of Ozeki who did it regularly, including some impressive consecutive runs, Kotokaze's being the longest.

In ascending order:

Goeido - -1

Masuiyama - -1

Shodai - 0

Tochinoshin - 0

Musoyama - 0

Miyabiyama - 0

Asahikuni - 0

Daiju - 0

Maenoyama - 0

Daikirin - 0

Kiyokuni - 0

Wakahaguro - 0

Matsunobori - 0

Mitakeumi - +1

Kirishima(II) - +1

Asanoyama - +1

Takayasu - +1

Kotooshu - +1

Hokutenyu - +1

Kaiketsu - +1

Kitabayama - +2

Asashio - +2

Kirishima - +2

Dejima - +2

Kotomitsuki - +2

Kotoshogiku - +3

Takanohana - +3

Yutakayama - +3

Tochihikari - +3

Chiyotaikai - +3

Kotogahama - +4

Tochizauma - +4

Takakeisho - +4

Baruto - +4

Wakashimazu - +8

Kotokaze - +8

Kaio - +9

Takanonami - +10

Konishiki - +11

 

Given the vast gap between the last 5 and the rest, there's good argument that those 5 were simply very unlucky to not string a series of good enough results to become Yokozuna, or in Konishiki's case, had to overcome a harder hurdle than most.  It also looks to me like the line between +2 and +3 looks like a good place to cut off "good Ozeki" from "not-so-good Ozeki".

Certainly you could go further with this sort of analysis, including Yokozuna by both number of Ozeki promotion runs and number of Yokozuna promotion runs that meet some fixed criteria.

Edited November 29 by Gurowake

[Reonito 1,385]

Out of reacts but love the analysis! I think I tried to look at something similar using the db a while ago, but it was never very organized (maybe I just looked at recent guys).

[Itachiyama 115]

Can anybody help me with the first kensho Meisei got in 2018 (Nagoya)? Which bout was it? Is the list for this Basho still available?

[Reonito 1,385]

 

[Reonito 1,385]

As I recall from an earlier project, Yoshikaze is the only wrestler since 1958 to record 33/3 while in Makuuchi without reaching Ozeki at any point in his career. We'll see if Wakatakakage becomes the second...

[Faustonowaka 115]

Hakuho had 44 wins as Maegashira in his first 4 Makuuchi basho, but we all know the rest…

[Gurowake 4,021]

I was prompted by YBF's comment on how rare Komusubi Yusho were to search up all of them.  It turns out that in the 6-basho era, every single Komusubi Yusho winner had it as their either 1st or 2nd basho in an Ozeki run.  Just before the 6-basho era, in 1957, there was one failure, Annenyama (later known as Haguroyama).  If you remove all the date restrictions there was another failure in 1932, but he might have made it eventually if he hadn't passed away a couple basho later (Okitsuumi).  There were only two other Komusubi Yusho, so the pre-6-basho era had 2 failures and 2 successes, not much of a pattern compared to the 6-basho era ones. 

Also of note is that Musashiyama was promoted to Ozeki directly from Komusubi after the next tournament, and that wasn't even the last time that happened with the more recent one being even more ludicrous by today's standards with only 1 sanyaku basho, so clearly the rules were different when there were less basho per year.

Edited December 5 by Gurowake

[Gurowake 4,021]

It's not very common for all top 4 Juryo rikishi to be promoted to Makuuchi, as is likely to happen on the next banzuke.  There's 18 total in the database, and 11 of those are in the 6-basho era.  However, it last happened after Kyushu last year, and when I saw the results of the query I failed to recognize that at first, thinking that a recent Kyushu basho was going to be the most recent because of last basho, when it really isn't because the next banzuke isn't out yet.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=4&form1_rank=J1-J2&form2_rank=m

[Asashosakari 19,023]

Lowest opponents faced in a 7-0 makushita performance, measured by the rank of the highest-ranked opponent, since 1989:

Ms51w 2015.11 Ms54w Ura
Ms38w 1993.01 Ms60Td Oso
Ms36e 2010.03 Ms48e Aoiyama
Ms35w 2000.01 Ms36w Nodera
Ms33e 2021.11 Ms47w Ryuden
Ms32e 2010.05 Ms35w Maeta
Ms31w 2001.11 Ms35e Daimanazuru
Ms31w 2024.11 Ms48w Osanai
Ms30w 1997.11 Ms60w Kitazakura
Ms30e 2005.09 Ms42e Wakakirin
Ms30e 2006.03 Ms42e Kotoyutaka
Ms28w 2020.09 Ms42e Terasawa
Ms28e 1996.11 Ms59e Takaozaki
Ms28e 2022.09 Ms36e Daiseiryu
Ms27w 2003.07 Ms45e Hokutojo
Ms27w 2014.11 Ms49e Higoarashi
Ms27e 2019.09 Ms46w Chiyonokuni
Ms26w 2011.01 Ms51w Matsutani
 

Edited December 10 by Asashosakari

[Jakusotsu 5,876]

1 hour ago, Asashosakari said:

Ms51w 2015.11 Ms54w Ura

That schedule looks beyond ridiculous.

[Reonito 1,385]

20 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

That schedule looks beyond ridiculous.

I guess the factors here are that the absences above him placed Ms31w Shiba in the top half of the bracket, and then Ura couldn't face him in regulation because they're both from Kise beya...

[Asashosakari 19,023]

Since 1989, there have been 13 opening matches in the lower divisions after which the loser went on to go 6-1 and the winner 1-6:

Basho	Day	Rikishi 1				Kimarite		Rikishi 2
		Rank	Shikona	Result				Rank	Shikona	Result
1989.03	2	Ms25e	Daishiryu	0-1 (6-1)				Ms25w	Tochiizumi	1-0 (1-6)
1996.05	1	Jd141e	Azumanami	0-1 (6-1)		oshidashi		Jd140w	Yodonishiki	1-0 (1-6)
1998.05	2	Ms6w	Toyozakura	0-1 (6-1)		hikiotoshi		Ms7e	Kotoiwakuni	1-0 (1-6)
1999.05	2	Ms25e	Wakainami	0-1 (6-1)		yoritaoshi		Ms24w	Wakatenma	1-0 (1-6)
2005.01	1	Sd49e	Aogifuji	0-1 (6-1)		oshidashi		Sd49w	Kisomitsuru	1-0 (1-6)
2006.09	1	Ms45e	Daiyuchi	0-1 (6-1)		oshitaoshi		Ms44w	Koriyama	1-0 (1-6)
2008.11	1	Sd30e	Yoshino	0-1 (6-1)		yorikiri		Sd30w	Kyokushoten	1-0 (1-6)
2009.09	2	Sd21e	Kisomitsuru	0-1 (6-1)		okuridashi		Sd20w	Asabenkei	1-0 (1-6)
2013.05	2	Sd55e	Kamiyutaka	0-1 (6-1)		oshitaoshi		Sd54w	Dangan	1-0 (1-6)
2014.05	2	Ms29e	Keitenkai	0-1 (6-1)		oshidashi		Ms29w	Shoho	1-0 (1-6)
2020.07	2	Sd59e	Kamitani	0-1 (6-1)		hatakikomi		Sd58w	Araoyama	1-0 (1-6)
2023.07	2	Jd28e	Takanoryu	0-1 (6-1)		yorikiri		Jd27w	Kokiryu	1-0 (1-6)
2023.09	1	Sd86e	Sekizuka	0-1 (6-1)		yorikiri		Sd85w	Hayashiryu	1-0 (1-6)

Query - includes seven cases (which I've removed above) in which the 1-win score involved kyujo.

Inspired by Dewataikai vs Wakenokaze, which came close in the last basho - Wakenokaze only avoided the 1-6 record with a win in his final bout.

[Asashosakari 19,023]

A random nonsense idea: Heya representation in the bottom 100 of each banzuke, all six tournaments of 2024 combined.

Totals:

Shikihide    50    Sakaigawa    17    Nishikido    11    Michinoku     4
Isegahama    49    Takasago     16    Oshima       11    Minato        4
Nishonoseki  30    Arashio      14    Takekuma     11    Miyagino      4
Nishiiwa     25    Hakkaku      13    Futagoyama    9    Naruto        4
Oitekaze     24    Otowayama    13    Hanaregoma    8    Ajigawa       3
Isenoumi     23    Tatsunami    13    Fujishima     7    Hidenoyama    2
Takadagawa   23    Yamahibiki   13    Onoe          7    Kasugano      2
Kokonoe      21    Asahiyama    12    Otake         7    Nakamura      2
Tamanoi      20    Asakayama    12    Tokiwayama    7    Shibatayama   2
Sadogatake   18    Kise         12    Kataonami     6    Ikazuchi      1
Tagonoura    18    Musashigawa  12    Onomatsu      6    Oshiogawa     0
Dewanoumi    17    Tokitsukaze  12    Shikoroyama   5

As a share of each stable's overall banzuke presence:

Nishikido    61.1%  11 /  18    Asakayama    18.2%  12 /  66    Futagoyama   10.5%   9 /  86
Nishiiwa     58.1%  25 /  43    Tamanoi      17.2%  20 / 116    Otake        10.1%   7 /  69
Shikihide    54.3%  50 /  92    Yamahibiki   16.5%  13 /  79    Kise          9.8%  12 / 123
Hidenoyama   50.0%   2 /   4    Dewanoumi    15.5%  17 / 110    Onoe          9.1%   7 /  77
Otowayama    48.1%  13 /  27    Sakaigawa    15.5%  17 / 110    Minato        8.9%   4 /  45
Asahiyama    33.3%  12 /  36    Hanaregoma   14.8%   8 /  54    Fujishima     8.6%   7 /  81
Isenoumi     26.7%  23 /  86    Kokonoe      14.7%  21 / 143    Ajigawa       8.3%   3 /  36
Nishonoseki  26.3%  30 / 114    Arashio      14.3%  14 /  98    Nakamura      8.3%   2 /  24
Isegahama    25.9%  49 / 189    Hakkaku      14.0%  13 /  93    Onomatsu      6.8%   6 /  88
Kataonami    25.0%   6 /  24    Musashigawa  14.0%  12 /  86    Shikoroyama   6.0%   5 /  83
Michinoku    25.0%   4 /  16    Sadogatake   13.5%  18 / 133    Shibatayama   5.1%   2 /  39
Tagonoura    23.7%  18 /  76    Tokiwayama   13.2%   7 /  53    Naruto        4.5%   4 /  88
Takekuma     21.6%  11 /  51    Tatsunami    13.0%  13 / 100    Ikazuchi      2.4%   1 /  41
Takadagawa   21.5%  23 / 107    Takasago     11.9%  16 / 135    Kasugano      2.1%   2 /  95
Oshima       21.2%  11 /  52    Tokitsukaze  11.8%  12 / 102    Oshiogawa     0.0%   0 /  42
Oitekaze     18.3%  24 / 131    Miyagino     10.8%   4 /  37

Hidenoyama (Kyushu), Michinoku (Hatsu/Haru), Miyagino (Hatsu/Haru) and Nakamura (Nagoya-Kyushu) did not exist for the entire year.