Gurowake 4,035 Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: A random nonsense idea: Heya representation in the bottom 100 of each banzuke, all six tournaments of 2024 combined. I know this would be harder to compile, but it might be slightly more meaningful to exclude people who haven't completed 2 tournaments on the banzuke, to not have heya with more recent recruits (who need generally 2 tournaments to get out of this range) show up with more rikishi here than they would long-term. The Hatsu-dohyo column from the database would likely be helpful in determining this. It would make it slightly more interesting, but probably not enough for me to be interested in doing myself. (I would be interested in the average percentile banzuke rank for each heya though, so maybe I could figure out how to do that easily.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,213 Posted January 11 Randomly spotted: Asonoyama appears to have a real knack for winning on the middle Sunday. Whenever he's had a Day 8 match in the last three and a half years, he won it. 16 straight and counting. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,213 Posted January 12 Another completely random find: These two lower-division rikishi managed to get matched up in 8 straight honbasho after they somehow posted the same tournament records seven times in a row. Basho Day Rikishi 1 Kimarite Rikishi 2 Rank Shikona Result Rank Shikona Result 2023.01 1 Jd16w Genbumaru 1-0 (3-4) hatakikomi Jd17e Koshinoryu 0-1 (3-4) 2023.03 2 Jd38w Genbumaru 1-0 (4-3) hatakikomi Jd39e Koshinoryu 0-1 (4-3) 2023.05 3 Jd16w Genbumaru 1-1 (4-3) oshidashi Jd17w Koshinoryu 2-0 (4-3) 2023.07 9 Sd86w Genbumaru 1-4 (2-5) yorikiri Sd87w Koshinoryu 2-3 (2-5) 2023.09 2 Jd29e Genbumaru 1-0 (3-4) okuridashi Jd29w Koshinoryu 0-1 (3-4) 2023.11 2 Jd52w Genbumaru 0-1 (5-2) tsukiotoshi Jd53e Koshinoryu 1-0 (5-2) 2024.01 1 Jd13w Genbumaru 0-1 (3-4) hikiotoshi Jd14e Koshinoryu 1-0 (3-4) 2024.03 2 Jd29w Genbumaru 0-1 (2-5) yorikiri Jd30e Koshinoryu 1-0 (4-3) 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,213 Posted January 16 (edited) Most juryo basho before first promotion to makuuchi, 15-day era since 1949: 30 Kyokunankai 27 Mitoryu 26 Miyabashira 24 Hachiya 23 Otayama, Churanoumi 22 Akiseyama, Tsurugisho 21 Chiyozakura, Hoshiiwato, Chiyoo 20 Kitaharima 19 Maegashio, Hanahikari, Daimonji, Harunoyama, Mokonami, Oiwato 18 Asanoumi, Shiratayama 17 Hirakagawa, Aobajo, Otsukasa, Kyokutaisei, Tohakuryu 16 Kitanohana, Katsunishiki, Masatsukasa 15 Saisu, Chikubayama, Kotoinazuma, Onohana, Kiraiho, Tobizaru Compiled just in case Hakuyozan (currently 30 J basho) does the unthinkable this year. Edited January 16 by Asashosakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faustonowaka 121 Posted January 16 Unless Hoshoryu gets the Yusho and a promotion, the next banzuke will be the first since Hatsu 1993 without a Yokozuna on it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oskanohana 245 Posted Saturday at 00:50 (edited) I was surprised by the torikumi makers pairing 6-0 Chiyoshoma and 0-6 Roga, but it has happened before among maegashiras. With yokozunas and ozekis is much more usual as their opponents are more or less pre-programmed on the first week. I know that this also holds somewhat true for the rest of the torikumi, but come on, guys, it's day 7, you can tweak it a little bit. 6-0 vs 0-6 maegashira only Basho Day Rikishi 1 Kimarite Rikishi 2 Rank Shikona Result Rank Shikona Result 2006.11 7 M9w Asasekiryu 6-1 (10-5) oshidashi M7e Tamanoshima 1-6 (2-9-4) 2015.03 7 M6e Aminishiki 7-0 (8-3-4) hikkake M8e Shohozan 0-7 (1-14) 2025.01 7 M5w Chiyoshoma 6-0 M8e Roga 0-2-4 I wouldn't put past Chiyoshoma losing tomorrow against an injured Roga. Still, Asa's secretary did it first. For completionists, same query adding lower sanyaku and juryo. 6-0 vs 0-6 (S,K,M,J) Basho Day Rikishi 1 Kimarite Rikishi 2 Rank Shikona Result Rank Shikona Result 1981.03 7 S1e Takanosato 7-0 (10-5) kotenage K1w Fujizakura 0-7 (3-12) 1982.09 7 S1e Wakashimazu 7-0 (12-3) yorikiri K1e Takamiyama 0-7 (5-10) 2006.03 7 J11e Baruto 7-0 (15-0) yoritaoshi J7e Daishodai 0-7 (3-12) 2006.03 7 J6w Kyokunankai 7-0 (10-5) yorikiri J10e Toki 0-7 (2-13) 2006.11 7 M9w Asasekiryu 6-1 (10-5) oshidashi M7e Tamanoshima 1-6 (2-9-4) 2006.11 7 S1w Kotomitsuki 7-0 (9-6) uwatenage M1w Iwakiyama 0-7 (2-13) 2011.11 7 J11w Tokushoryu 7-0 (10-5) yorikiri J12e Tamanoshima 0-7 (0-9) 2015.03 7 M6e Aminishiki 7-0 (8-3-4) hikkake M8e Shohozan 0-7 (1-14) 2016.05 7 J13e Sato 7-0 (11-4) hatakikomi J5w Akiseyama 0-7 (1-14) 2025.01 7 M5w Chiyoshoma 6-0 M8e Roga 0-2-4 Asa's secretary's achievement is more impressive this way. That Sato on the second-to-last line is Takakeisho, by the way. (I refuse to use Chrome, sue me) Edited Saturday at 00:50 by Oskanohana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,912 Posted Saturday at 05:16 4 hours ago, Oskanohana said: I was surprised by the torikumi makers pairing 6-0 Chiyoshoma and 0-6 Roga, but it has happened before among maegashiras. The whole analysis is moot because the first 8 days' schedule is done strictly by rank. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,016 Posted Saturday at 10:10 With the latest news, Terunofuji will be the first modern days Yokozuna who never participated in a Yokozuna-Yokozuna-bout. Also, he was completely absent from 7 of his 21 Yokozuna basho (33.3%), which sees him tied for first place with the world's favourite Lifetime-Achievement-Yokozuna, who finished his exceptional stint at the rank at 4 absences out of 12 basho. At least Terunofuji could keep a winning score overall for the rank... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,016 Posted Saturday at 10:15 Oh, and he's the third guy after Sadanoyama and Takanohana (II) to have yushoed from four different ranks, like the former missing out only on Komusubi (Takanohana didn't yusho from Sekiwake, instead). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 361 Posted Saturday at 17:23 (edited) With Terunofuji's intai I was curious about the last fights of yokozuna. It seems that there were 9 out of 73 yokozuna (12,3%) who could win their last appearance on the dohyo: 69th Hakuho Sho 64th Akebono Taro 42nd Kagamisato Kiyoji 35th Futabayama Sadaji 33rd Musashiyama Takeshi 29th Miyagiyama Fukumatsu 27th Tochigiyama Moriya 25th Nishinoumi Kajiro 20th Umegetani Torato So, only two yokozuna in the "modern era" achieved that feat. Edited Sunday at 16:56 by Tsubame 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,213 Posted Sunday at 18:38 As far as the DB knows it, Fubu (in his first ranked basho as Nakayama) holds the record with four matches decided by non-techniques in the same tournament: Nagoya 2014, two wins both by isamiashi and two losses by isamishi and fumidashi. There are only two further cases with 3 such results: Chiyotenfu (as Kadokura) in Aki 2015, two wins (isamiashi/tsukihiza) and one loss (koshikudake), and ditto Kaiketsu (yes, that Kaiketsu) up in juryo in Kyushu 1970. As implied by those numbers, no rikishi has won three times or lost three times by non-technique so far. The list of those who did one thing or the other twice is rather long, though, too long to reproduce here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites