Akinomaki 39,933 Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) A task for lower ranked rikishi is the yumitori-shiki. 2 are in charge of it, in case something happens. Usually rikishi from the heya of a yokozuna do this, since the dance was originally that of a winning yokozuna. The main performer now is Satonofuji, from Harumafuji's heya, who did it for 3 years so far. New to the task since the Fujisawa jungyo on the 9th is Kasugaryu, not from the heya but a tsukebito of Hakuho. He replaces heya-mate Mizuguchi. All parts of the ceremony have a meaning: holding the bow in the middle and cutting through the air to purify the air, the gesture to dig into the dohyo to purify the soil from evil spirits. The shiko stamping in the end to solidify the dohyo again, that had been digged up. Satonofuji about the movements, laughingly: "It's simple" - but actually it seems it's not, especially not for someone new to it: Kasugaryu was nervous, there was some confusion as he appeared in the hana-michi too early and other things: "I made a mistake!". He had a try also in Kawasaki and Machida and: "I want to practice it also at the next jungyo"http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/column/sumo/news/1635357.html training on the asphalt outside video of his 2nd try On 14.4.2016 at 19:10, Akinomaki said: Kawasaki local Kasugayama-beya's Kasugaryu did the yumitori-shiki Edited April 21, 2017 by Akinomaki 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 232 Posted April 22, 2016 There was a curse about the yumitori: the rikishi who does yumitori would never be promoted to sekitori. This curse was broken some years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 247 Posted April 22, 2016 There was a curse about the yumitori: the rikishi who does yumitori would never be promoted to sekitori. This curse was broken some years ago. If I remeember well, the rikishi who broke the curse was Oga http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=247 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Tomoefuji is an earlier and more successful example The list of all about 40-50(double entries, without Kasugaryu yet), with 8 who made it to sekitori: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BC%93%E5%8F%96%E5%BC%8F#.E5.BC.93.E5.8F.96.E3.82.8A.E5.8A.9B.E5.A3.AB quite a good percentage The curse thus is: a yumi-tori rikishi won't make it to ozeki - or if you see a big rank difference towards komusubi: to sekiwake and: doing the yumitori-shiki doesn't really improve the chance of getting to sekitori Edited April 22, 2016 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted April 23, 2016 Tomoefuji is an earlier and more successful example The list of all about 40-50(double entries, without Kasugaryu yet), with 8 who made it to sekitori: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BC%93%E5%8F%96%E5%BC%8F#.E5.BC.93.E5.8F.96.E3.82.8A.E5.8A.9B.E5.A3.AB quite a good percentage The curse thus is: a yumi-tori rikishi won't make it to ozeki - or if you see a big rank difference towards komusubi: to sekiwake and: doing the yumitori-shiki doesn't really improve the chance of getting to sekitori And of course (did anybody mention this?) the yumitori-shiki man waits in the middle at the back until the final winner is declared, then he goes around to that side and gets up on the winner's side. Orion 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 232 Posted April 23, 2016 There was a curse about the yumitori: the rikishi who does yumitori would never be promoted to sekitori. This curse was broken some years ago. If I remeember well, the rikishi who broke the curse was Oga http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=247 Sure. Newspapers reported his promotion and claimed that he broke the curse "yumitorishiki man unable reaching jurio". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 635 Posted April 24, 2016 And of course (did anybody mention this?) the yumitori-shiki man waits in the middle at the back until the final winner is declared, then he goes around to that side and gets up on the winner's side. Orion THIS is why I love this Forum... I've been an avid fan of sumo for over 40 years and I still find myself learning something new almost weekly! (I am not worthy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Kasugaryu was nervous, there was some confusion as he appeared in the hana-michi too early and other things: "I made a mistake!".Instead of waiting who'd be declared the winner, he surely was already standing ready on Hakuho's side. If that were to happen at a honbasho, one who knows the rule might say "The bout was fixed". Edited April 24, 2016 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 582 Posted April 24, 2016 Kasugaryu was nervous, there was some confusion as he appeared in the hana-michi too early and other things: "I made a mistake!".Instead of waiting who'd be declared the winner, he surely was already standing ready on Hakuho's side.If that were to happen at a honbasho, one who knows the rule might say "The bout was fixed". That is going to happen anyway. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Satonofuji did judo from 4th grade to high school. The father of a classmate introduced him to (not yet) Isegahama-oyakata (Asahifuji) and he entered the then Ajigawa-beya as Asatofuji. Small, but with his excellent counter-sumo (6 utchari, 14! izori, 7 tasukizori, 2 ippon-zeoi) he made it to makushita for one basho. Later he dropped the leading Ajigawa A from his shikona and inserted a katakana "no" to meet the new Isegahama format. With the yokozuna promotion of Harumafuji 4 years ago, the oyakata sent him to do the yumitori-shiki. Though usually rikishi change after 1-3 years, he's still THE bow performer at the main basho, and at his home jungyo basho in Takasaki (he's from adjacent Yoshioka-town) he got quite some oh!s from the spectators for his twirling. Satonofuji turned 40 at this his home jungyo and in recent years has lost stamina and muscle power, having him drop to jonidan frequently. But he wants to continue this task: "The bow-twirling ceremony comes with the responsibility to conclude the day. I want to continue to do it and also want to fight at the torikumi with all my power to avoid losing to the young rikishi." http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASK4K73TQK4KUHNB00S.html On 16.4.2017 at 13:36, Akinomaki said: o the intai of Hokutoryu made him the 6th oldest active rikishi. http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2017/04/16/kiji/20170416s00005000077000c.html On 22.4.2016 at 13:56, Akinomaki said: New to the task since the Fujisawa jungyo on the 9th is Kasugaryu, not from the heya but a tsukebito of Hakuho. He replaces heya-mate Mizuguchi. Satonofuji about the movements, laughingly: "It's simple" Soon there should be one from Tagonoura (or another from Kisenosato's side) joining the yumitori team - I don't remember any mentioned for Kakuryu. Edited April 21, 2017 by Akinomaki 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,573 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: Soon there should be one from Tagonoura (or another from Kisenosato's side) joining the yumitori team In Kashiwa yesterday it was performed by Sadogatake-beya's Kotootori, from the same ichimon, seen here rehearsing: Edited April 21, 2017 by Yubinhaad 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Kotootori performed the yumitori-shiki at the Tottori jungyo-basho on the 26th. In the video he first waits in the back, comes in with the bow, puts it down for the yobidashi and goes to sit at the shomen dohyo side during the shikiri of the final bout, to step up onto the dohyo from the winner side afterwards. The yobidashi brings the bow to the tate-gyoji, who hands it to the performer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsDN4qCJ5c Edited October 28, 2017 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,470 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Yumitorishiki-man? You gotta be kidding. It's the yumitorikishi. Come on. Edited October 28, 2017 by Kintamayama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,470 Posted October 28, 2017 On 4/21/2017 at 16:35, Yubinhaad said: In Kashiwa yesterday it was performed by Sadogatake-beya's Kotootori, from the same ichimon, seen here rehearsing: Me explaining to him how to do it: 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,942 Posted October 31, 2017 How many of those Kotoo(u)shu(u) shirts are there? Do most Ozeki have mass-produced shirts bearing their shikona like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,470 Posted October 31, 2017 8 hours ago, Gurowake said: How many of those Kotoo(u)shu(u) shirts are there? Do most Ozeki have mass-produced shirts bearing their shikona like that? You can usually buy one at the KKan. That's where I got it back then. IIRC, all O/Ys had their teeshirts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gurowake said: How many of those Kotoo(u)shu(u) shirts are there? Do most Ozeki have mass-produced shirts bearing their shikona like that? For yokozuna and ozeki these simple types with just the shikona are on sale in the kokugikan - I got one of the Kotooshu ones Natsu 3 years ago - after he retired, but they still had some - now they are no longer on sale there. They are also the cheapest rikishi t-shirts, black on white or gold on black and only in 2 sizes Edited October 31, 2017 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I see that now also Endo and Ichinojo are available, you can order them on the kokugikan shop site, no need to go to the kokugikan http://shop.kokugikan.jp/?pid=101711042 Edited October 31, 2017 by Akinomaki 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I now realize that I don't have the same t-shirt like I thought I had - I have the one with his final shikona writing: with 洲 for shuu, not the initial 州 that he still used when he became ozeki http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=2830&l=j The old type must be quite rare now Edited October 31, 2017 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,470 Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Akinomaki said: I now realize that I don't have the same t-shirt like I thought I had - I have the one with his final shikona writing: with 洲 for shuu, not the initial 州 that he still used when he became ozeki http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=2830&l=j The old type must be quite rare now You mean the one I'm wearing in the picture? Rare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: You mean the one I'm wearing in the picture? Rare? Yes, it likely was on sale for only one year, while the one I have was on sale 7 years or more - and there was no sumo boom in the old days Edited October 31, 2017 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 20:20, Akinomaki said: At the Umekita basho, Kotootori was the yumitori-shiki performer, with the kesho mawashi which Kotoeko had used that day at the dohyo-iri, and an oicho-mage, while all sekitori performed with simply a chon-mage - only Goeido had an oicho prepared another video of the yumitori-shiki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3dTfz6bLQk In earlier posts here, Kotootori and Kasugaryu are shown as performers at the jungyo. It was planned that the usual hon-basho performer Satonofuji would do it a last time this basho, but the switch to Kasugaryu as the new regular was brought forward in a hurry. On 3/9/2018 at 15:45, Yubinhaad said: It seems Nakagawa-beya's Kasugaryu will perform the yumitori-shiki this basho, taking over from Satonofuji. Kasugaryu has twirled the bow at jungyo events before but this will be his honbasho debut. At the age of 33 years and 9 months, Kasugaryu will be the the third-oldest rikishi to become yumitori-shiki performer in the modern era. Satonofuji was the oldest, beginning his reign at 35 years and 8 months. Kasugaryu only did this at the 2 jungyo in Kawasaki so far, where his now Nakagawa-beya is located On 3/12/2018 at 11:49, Akinomaki said: the first final bow twirling ceremony at a main basho for Kasugaryu o The custom is, that a tsukebito of a yokozuna performs this, Satonofuji was one of Harumafuji of course On 4/22/2016 at 13:56, Akinomaki said: New to the task since the Fujisawa jungyo on the 9th is Kasugaryu, not from the heya but a tsukebito of Hakuho. He replaces heya-mate Mizuguchi. So likely Kotootori is a tsukebito of Kisenosato - I still haven't heard of a tsukebito of Kakuryu preparing for this, but he may well turn out to be the last yokozuna standing, so one of his may be start practicing soon. Kasuguryu was of course quite nervous, having to start this task without proper preparation. After day 1: "My head went blank." On day 2 he felt the urge to go to the toilet just before the final bout, where he already has to sit at the dohyo. He hesitated if he should go or endure it, but there was also that kesho-mawashi he's not used to and he got admonished by a sewa-nin to endure. After day 3: "The slow rising is still a problem, but a lot of people give me advice and I'm grateful for that." http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/column/sumo/news/201803140000198.html with the tozai-kai kesho mawashi for Osaka, Shikimori Kandayu is the gyoji, yobidashi Jiro 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yutarotanaka 104 Posted March 15, 2018 I did notice the new bow twirler to be a bit twitchy and anxious at the background of the sumo coverage when he's at ringside getting ready for his performance for the first few days. Scratching here and there, looking for the nearest exit and he has this look on his face that plainly says "What the hell did I get myself into". It's quite a daunting task especially when everyone is focused on you. The last bow twirler was really cool, calm and collected when he performs the bow twirling and it's kind of overwhelming I'd imagine to live up to your predecessor's badass-ness. He'd refine his technique eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 728 Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) So, did they change since Isegahamabeya has no yokozuna, or was it just time? Edited August 10, 2018 by Churaumi Autocorrect is less helpful than you’d think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,905 Posted March 16, 2018 I'll miss his style and his fabulous eyebrows. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites