Fukurou 534 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) According to information on the the NSK website at this time, the following rikishi will be absent on day 1 of the 2016 Nagoya basho. Check back later in case there are any updates (or the NSK is late in releasing the news) Information related to the remaining divisions should be available in about 24 hours. M11e TOYONOSHIMA (link) M13w AMINISHIKI (link) Both rikishi are recovering from surgery for achilles tendon injuries. Some info about that is here. I won't be able to update this thread during the basho, but I've started it so other people can. Edited August 8, 2016 by Fukurou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 976 Posted July 8, 2016 I didn't think Aminishiki would recover and be ready for the Nagoya basho given his injury. This may be the beginning of the end for both Aminishiki & Toyonoshima. Their injuries are major one at their age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted July 8, 2016 Both talented and entertaining rikishi...it would be sad to see their chonmage cut, but of course one can't do combat sports forever. But best of luck to them both and wishing a speedy recovery, whatever else might happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Osunaarashi has withdrawn from the tournament according to the NSK website. As with Kakuryu's post-torikumi withdrawal last year, he is still on the Day 1 torikumi, but the Day 2 torikumi was changed. No updates on the lower divisions yet; perhaps they're still working out the consequences of Osunaarashi's withdrawal. Edited July 9, 2016 by Gurowake 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 976 Posted July 9, 2016 Wow! What's up with Osu? Is it the shoulder? Is Kakury out for the basho? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted July 9, 2016 Wow! What's up with Osu? Is it the shoulder? Is Kakury out for the basho? No, I meant to refer to Kakuryu also withdrawing at a similar time about a year ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted July 9, 2016 Lower Division Rikishi withdrawing Day 1: East Makushita #2 JokoryuEast Makushita #30 KiribayamaWest Sandanme #8 DairaidoEast Sandanme #25 KaihoWest Sandanme #26 TokitenkuWest Sandanme #33 ChiyonoumiEast Sandanme #36 MasuminoruEast Sandanme #48 MitsuuchiWest Sandanme #57 KoshinishikiWest Sandanme #68 TochihayateEast Sandanme #83 TokushuzanEast Jonidan #18 ToshinofujiWest Jonidan #23 KaminoyamaWest Jonidan #32 KenhoEast Jonidan #34 KotokumazoeWest Jonidan #37 HomarenishikiWest Jonidan #43 MasunoyamaWest Jonidan #44 HokutohomareEast Jonidan #46 TerujuWest Jonidan #47 KenshinEast Jonidan #48 YoshimotoWest Jonidan #48 KotokawaiWest Jonidan #62 SakaguchiWest Jonidan #76 MatsunofujiEast Jonidan #77 AsahikuniWest Jonidan #77 KawamotoWest Jonidan #78 SekinoWest Jonidan #86 KosekiWest Jonidan #91 WakayamaWest Jonidan #92 KotonawaEast Jonidan #93 MatsushimaWest Jonidan #95 TokutaihoWest Jonidan #97 KaikokiWest Jonokuchi #4 DaiyushiWest Jonokuchi #5 IshikawaWest Jonokuchi #13 ShinshunishikiWest Jonokuchi #16 KotoseigoEast Jonokuchi #17 KitasatsumaEast Jonokuchi #19 MihamaumiWest Jonokuchi #19 FujihisashiEast Jonokuchi #20 OgiryuEast Jonokuchi #22 NakanoWest Jonokuchi #24 TokudaWest Jonokuchi #27 TakeuchiWest Jonokuchi #31 Hokuto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,363 Posted July 9, 2016 Wow! What's up with Osu? Is it the shoulder? condition of his left knee has worsened during practice according to Sponchi News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted July 9, 2016 Osunaarashi has withdrawn from the tournament according to the NSK website. As with Kakuryu's post-torikumi withdrawal last year, he is still on the Day 1 torikumi, but the Day 2 torikumi was changed. No updates on the lower divisions yet; perhaps they're still working out the consequences of Osunaarashi's withdrawal. Kakuryu still listed day 2 in English site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Osunaarashi has withdrawn from the tournament according to the NSK website. As with Kakuryu's post-torikumi withdrawal last year, he is still on the Day 1 torikumi, but the Day 2 torikumi was changed. No updates on the lower divisions yet; perhaps they're still working out the consequences of Osunaarashi's withdrawal. Kakuryu still listed day 2 in English site. Kakuryu is not injured this basho. I never meant to imply that he was. I meant to relate Osunaarashi's withdrawal timing to Kakuryu's last year, and relate the fact that similarly the torikumi for Day 2 but not Day 1 was changed. Edited July 9, 2016 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted July 9, 2016 Editing post post won't cover up your poor attention to detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,671 Posted July 9, 2016 Osunaarashi has withdrawn from the tournament according to the NSK website. As with Kakuryu's post-torikumi withdrawal last year, he is still on the Day 1 torikumi, but the Day 2 torikumi was changed. No updates on the lower divisions yet; perhaps they're still working out the consequences of Osunaarashi's withdrawal. Kakuryu still listed day 2 in English site. Kakuryu is not injured this basho. I never meant to imply that he was. I meant to relate Osunaarashi's withdrawal timing to Kakuryu's last year, and relate the fact that similarly the torikumi for Day 2 but not Day 1 was changed. What should be mentioned is that Osu's withdrawal comes too late for the NSK to make changes to the day 1 matches, meaning that Osu will not go 0-0-15 for the basho. Meaning whoever he was supposed to face for day 1 will get the freebie. From day two he will be shown as withdrawn. What Gurowake tried to say was that Kakuryu ended up in the same situation LAST YEAR when he withdrew from a basho but not in a timely fashion enough to avoid the fusenpai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Editing post post won't cover up your poor attention to detail. It wasn't meant to. It was meant to clarify what I meant as someone had been confused with what I said even though I thought it was perfectly clear initially. I accept full responsibility for making people think Kakuryu was somehow withdrawing from the tournament despite there being no official announcement. You may proceed to withhold all of my pay that I was to accrue for making these announcements. I will accept 30 lashes as well in penance. (For reference for those who also want to judge my nefarious deed and see what punishment I deserve: I edited in "last year" into the post in question) In more seriousness, it would be far more polite of you to say "Thank you for correcting the misunderstanding." than taking a shot at my character for this minor slip-up that was more a mistake in forgetting that not everyone has been following Sumo forever (or has my memory). Being that I've only followed Sumo for a couple years, my frame of reference tends to be that anything that I remember anyone else interested would have to remember as well. Edited July 9, 2016 by Gurowake 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted July 9, 2016 Thanks for correcting and admitting the mistake. Understood. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted July 9, 2016 Thanks for correcting and admitting the mistake. Understood. Who the hell are you? There was no mistake in his post, it was your lack of knowledge that made you misunderstand it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,843 Posted July 9, 2016 48 rikishi kyujo... Some kind of record maybe? And among them some pretty talented wrestlers (or at least potential prospects): Mongolian Kiribayama (20) is on a career-high Ms30 in his eighth basho. Mitsuuchi (20) was off to a very promising start (three consecutive 6-1 records) before slowing down in the last two tournaments. Kotokumazoe (19) started in the large Haru class, and finished 6-1 in his debut (which is often a sign of future sekitorihood). Sakaguchi (16) also started in Haru. Starting a career with a 5-2 record is not too shabby in that age. A similar case can be made for Sekino who started 4-3, and is only 15. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,527 Posted July 9, 2016 Oosunaarashi's old left knee injury has worsened and he will be out for at least a month. "Entering in the middle?? He can't even crouch for the sonkyo.. He is nowhere near getting better at this point.." said his Oyakata. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,527 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) What should be mentioned is that Osu's withdrawal comes too late for the NSK to make changes to the day 1 matches, meaning that Osu will not go 0-0-15 for the basho. 0-1-14, which is essentially the same. Edited July 9, 2016 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,527 Posted July 9, 2016 A fifth of Jonokuchi rikishi are out . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_golem 213 Posted July 9, 2016 A record for number of Jonokuchi withdrawals then? Have they all decided to do a "Homarenishiki"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marc 0 Posted July 9, 2016 special question for Kintamayama: Do you have any informations about Homarenishiki's and Masunoyama's withdrawals ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,657 Posted July 9, 2016 A record for number of Jonokuchi withdrawals then?Not really. The last year has seen significant absences in jonokuchi in every basho: 2015.09: 10/51 (+1 Day 1 withdrawal by a scheduled rikishi) 2015.11: 10/48 2016.01: 10/45 2016.03: 8/45 (+1 Day 1) 2016.05: 11/62 (+1 Day 1) Percentage-wise the recent stand-out is 2012.09 with 11/41, and 12 absences in total were already seen in 2015.05 (12/56, although two of those rikishi then joined the basho on Day 3). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted July 9, 2016 Yeah, it's been completely normal for a very large portion of Jonokuchi to withdraw from the start of the tournament. Many of them will come back for one bout Day 13-15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,761 Posted July 9, 2016 First a non-kyujo report - after over a year out of action, I understand that banzuke-gai Ikeru is set to participate in maezumo this basho! (Clapping wildly...) Kaiho suffered a knee injury during keiko last weekend. It didn't require surgery or hospital treatment, and it's possible that he'll enter the basho later. Daiyushi actually retired after the Haru basho but simply wasn't on the official list then. Tokuda is suffering from a lower back problem. Masuminoru has some strapping on his right hand/wrist, possibly that injury happened in the Chiganoura car crash last month. However, he is involved in keiko at the heya's Nagoya lodgings so perhaps he will also be a late entry in the basho. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted July 9, 2016 Being an Osunaarashi fan is frustrating sometimes... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites