Basho Talk - Aki Basho 2016 +++ Spoiler Alert! +++

[Rocks 1,809]

11 minutes ago, Ryoshishokunin said:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&n_basho=4&form1_jy=on&form2_jy=on&form3_jy=on&form4_jy=on&columns=4

 

Yes. Kisenosato's even done it.

Figures, Thanks.

Interesting, all that have done it, except Kise so far, either already were and became Yokozuna. I guess there is still hope for Kise yet.

Edited September 22, 2016 by Rocks

[Rocks 1,809]

Tsubame, thanks.

[Yubinhaad 11,761]

2 hours ago, CT3* said:

I wonder if Hakuho is watching this basho from home, shaking his head and chuckling to himself...

In fact, he was in the audience today cheering on Goeido.

[Rocks 1,809]

That's cold. He said he was going to root for Kisenosato. 

[CT3* 331]

18 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

In fact, he was in the audience today cheering on Goeido.

LOL!!!!! I actually bought one of those masks last year at the Kokugikan. But even if I wore it for Halloween, nobody in the States would know who Hakuho is!

 

[Kintamayama 45,504]

2 hours ago, Rocks said:

I don't really see how you can denigrate what Goeido has done here. He has looked very strong and fought excellently IMO. If Hankuho was here Goeido would probably not have faced him yet so his 12-0 record so far is unaffected by Hakuho's absence. Hakuho has won 2 Yusho this year but he's only looked great in those 2. He could easily have lost this one too. A win for Goeido here would not have been out of the question if Hakuho was present given how strongly Goeido has fought this yusho.

Yeah, sure. It's all planned so that Goueidou gets the yusho. Isn't it obvious?

[Atenzan 1,084]

21 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Yeah, sure. It's all planned so that Goueidou gets the yusho. Isn't it obvious?

So you're actually saying that with a healthy Hakuhou in the fray, Goueidou wouldn't have already lost to Hakukou 4-5 times by day 12, thereby putting him out of the race? 

[Sumozumo 240]

6 minutes ago, McBugger said:

So you're actually saying that with a healthy Hakuhou in the fray, Goueidou wouldn't have already lost to Hakukou 4-5 times by day 12, thereby putting him out of the race? 

As a person who gets 'action' on a regular basis I am qualified to confirm your suspicions!

[Bumpkin 438]

19 minutes ago, McBugger said:

So you're actually saying that with a healthy Hakuhou in the fray, Goueidou wouldn't have already lost to Hakukou 4-5 times by day 12, thereby putting him out of the race? 

With Hakuho kyujo everybody's (except Kisenosato's) confidence level increases.  To his credit Goeido, of all people, has taken the most advantage, so far.

[shumitto 418]

1 hour ago, Yubinhaad said:

In fact, he was in the audience today cheering on Goeido.

Or maybe he was there to call a monoii against Goeido.

It is good to see Kaisei back from his vacations, but a bit too late. Takanoiwa has shown much more fighting spirit, but sports the same record. I wouldn't  blame Kaisei though, as he is likely injured.

Amakaze is just too green for Makuuchi. It should be remembered though that he is yet to clinch a kachi-koshi from upper Juryo (!) and even in the bottom half his performances were far from consistent. I like the guy, but I have trouble seeing him as a Makuuchi mainstay.

Aminishiki has sealed his Juryo spot. I am surprised. It seems you can never write him off.

 

[WAKATAKE 2,671]

Can someone confirm when the last time a rikishi from Osaka won the yusho? I was watching the NHK broadcast a couple days ago and I didn't hear the comment in its entirety, something about it would be the first time since 1986 or the first time in 86 years that someone from Osaka would win. Thanks.

 

Never mind I found it. It really is true.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shusshin=33&form1_y=on&form1_m=on

Edited September 22, 2016 by WAKATAKE

[Bumpkin 438]

Goeido will clinch the Yusho on Friday if:  1) Endo loses to Shohozan, 2) Takayasu loses to Mitakeumi, and 3) He defeats Harumafuji.  This would be Goeido's Yusho!

[rhyen 1,846]

Well, they are giving Goeido an easier matchup with Tamawashi tomorrow. 

[specialweek 2 136]

Dont mind that match up Tama looking really good.

[Kintamayama 45,504]

3 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

Goeido will clinch the Yusho on Friday if:  1) Endo loses to Shohozan, 2) Takayasu loses to Mitakeumi, and 3) He defeats Harumafuji.  This would be Goeido's Yusho!

No, no no. The plan is to make it look real. Day 15-Harumafuji loses the final bout against Kakuryuu. Till then, Goueidou drops 2 of his next three.

And please call me Mike.

[Kintamayama 45,504]

8 hours ago, McBugger said:

So you're actually saying that with a healthy Hakuhou in the fray, Goueidou wouldn't have already lost to Hakukou 4-5 times by day 12, thereby putting him out of the race? 

No. He would have lost once to Hakuhou and once to Hakukou.

Edited September 23, 2016 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 45,504]

11 hours ago, Rocks said:

I don't really see how you can denigrate what Goeido has done here. He has looked very strong and fought excellently IMO. If Hankuho was here Goeido would probably not have faced him yet so his 12-0 record so far is unaffected by Hakuho's absence. Hakuho has won 2 Yusho this year but he's only looked great in those 2. He could easily have lost this one too. A win for Goeido here would not have been out of the question if Hakuho was present given how strongly Goeido has fought this yusho.

And I don't see how you can so grossly misread what I wrote..And who is Hankuho? Cyclist?

Edited September 23, 2016 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 45,504]

11 hours ago, Harry said:

My remark above about who's asking Hakuhou to stay away for a couple of basho was meant as a joke by the way; I hope the lack of a smiley doesn't mean it was taken seriously. My question about if this is really Goeido might almost be considered a real question. The kadoban situation really has done something to Goeido to make him way more aggressive than usual and it has worked out very well for him.

I know, I didn't mean you.

[Kintamayama 45,504]

Confucius say: "People who say basho boring because no Hakuhou are same people complain basho is boring because Hakuhou always win.."

[rhyen 1,846]

39 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

No, no no. The plan is to make it look real. Day 15-Harumafuji loses the final bout against Kakuryuu. Till then, Goueidou drops 2 of his next three.

And please call me Mike.

Who will Takayasu & Endo lose to in the remaining days?

[Kintamayama 45,504]

27 minutes ago, rhyen said:

Who will Takayasu & Endo lose to in the remaining days?

Takayasu is Ozeki so he will go 2-1. Endou will lose all his remaining bouts. We don't want him too high up the banzuke next basho, now do we..

[d_golem 213]

I have a sneaking suspicion that a certain bald-headed, middle-aged guy who frequently posts compilation videos on youtube is the one pulling the strings behind the sport we call sumo. 

 

Now I'm off to watch NHK Premium on my overpriced cable TV subscription for the Day 13 Makuuchi bouts, peeling my eyes to the corners of the TV screen hoping to catch the aforementioned geezer handing tiny instruction envelopes to the rikishis before they enter the stadium.

Edited September 23, 2016 by d_golem

[Masumasumasu 902]

Hawkoohough.

[d_golem 213]

Woah Endoooo!!

[Iginishiki2 8]

56 minutes ago, d_golem said:

I have a sneaking suspicion that a certain bald-headed, middle-aged guy who frequently posts compilation videos on youtube is the one pulling the strings behind the sport we call sumo. 

 

Fair point there, after all, Kinta is the one spotting lizard people in the crowd, so it must be a thing!

On a more serious note, this has been an exciting basho to watch in many ways. I never thought I would actually say this before Aki, but I am rooting for Goeido to pull it off.