Bench Sumo news

[Fujisan 533]

2 hours ago, Takanorappa said:

 

That will soon change unless he starts playing again.

slightly off topic........

I was reading the banzuke  comments on the ICF site........

In them you say only 2 players have taken part in every ICF....

I have taken part in every ICF even when I was in Jail I still played even if I was droning.......

I have never missed a basho and I think its something to proud of....

[Jejima 1,415]

I've never missed a Bench bout (official or unofficial) - so I guess I must be the other player to have taken part in every ICF.

[Fujisan 533]

1 hour ago, Jejima said:

I've never missed a Bench bout (official or unofficial) - so I guess I must be the other player to have taken part in every ICF.

Actually the comment says-

" Just 2 ichimoners have competed in all 94 ICF contests.J 1 Poler (Jejima) and 1 Doit (Doitsuyama) have never missed a basho. "

I think this is an oopsie because the ICF was not around when bench sumo started and Doitsuyama and your good self where there

I missed it aswell not arriving untill 2003 so I have taken part in every ICF which started 2004? I think.....

Takanorappa must be referring to the games start,not the ICF start.....

Anybody else want to proudly boast being in every ICF and not missing I think there are others....................

I wont try guessing but some names come to mind but I wouldn't like to say,in case I'm wrong or even worse forget someone who feels 'un-noticed..'

Edited April 15, 2017 by Fujisan

[Jejima 1,415]

Hi everyone,

 

I received this email from Marushiki (the chair of the Bench Sumo Yokozuna Deliberation Council - BSYDC) over two weeks ago!

 

Better late than never....  It concerns the performance of our current Yokozuna, Kitakachiyama....

 

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Venerable Richijo

 

 

 

The Bench Yokozuna Deliberation Council has met in our Sauna, at our HQ, and had a very heated debate over our Esteemed Yokozuna Kitakachiyama. 

 

We acknowledge the 9 wins ruling for reining Yokozuna, and sympathise and understand the tough nature of the BS game and understand the difficulty of the game.  Which makes the life of a Yokozuna and everyone in BS a challenge, and sometimes frustrating.  Relying on 10 guys, to do their best and do their Oyakata  justice, is no mean feat. 

 

The BSYDC agreed that we should offer strong encouragement to Kitakachiyama to continue to do his best, and gain back his form that saw him climb to the exalted rank.   

 

We would also like to offer encouragement to everyone from Yokozuna down to Makushita to continue to do their best, and remember the nature of the beast (game).  

 

Should the Richijo desire us to convene again in our Palatial HQ, for deliberation after next Basho to again look at Kitakachiyama, it will be no hardship.

 

 We look forward to seeing you all in May. 

 

Marushiki (Chair BSYDC)

[Takanorappa 97]

On ‎4‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 20:03, Takanorappa said:

It's tough to be on top.     It looks like my range grabber started at row 2, instead of row 1.  I'll get that corrected soon (along with some more search/active player control (I hope - still have a couple javascript bugs to work out).

All fixed.  In fact, I've done a bit of streamlining to my stats.  I've eliminated the "All" vs "Current" files in all cases where it made sense, and I have installed a javascript that allows you to toggle intai'd BSers on/off, as you see fit.  The checkbox eliminates having to have two separate files.  A timesaver for me, and a bit more functional for you.

There is also a search function on most stats, so you can look at whomever you want.  Note that the search returns partial matches, so If your shikona is a subset of others, you will get all that match (sorry, Taka, et.al.)

Everything is at the usual place (look for Misc. Bench Stats) at my site.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Takanorappa

[Takanorappa 97]

On ‎4‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 22:33, Fujisan said:

Actually the comment says-

" Just 2 ichimoners have competed in all 94 ICF contests.J 1 Poler (Jejima) and 1 Doit (Doitsuyama) have never missed a basho. "

Legitimate oopsie.  It is, indeed, Bench bashos, and not ICFs (we haven't hit 94 ICFs, yet).  I must point out, however, that my banzuke commentary is many bashos old (The last being Nagoya 2015).  The time-to-number of reads ratio just wasn't worth it to keep that feature it going. I was spending many hours preparing the commentary, and getting just a handful of reads.   If there is a big enough outdry (or I get bored), I may update, occasionally.

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Was just looking at the banzuke for when I joined Bench (Aki 2008) and it's amazing to think we had five divisions back then.  Where did everyone go??  Was it the yaocho scandal or a drip drip drip?  189 players on that banzuke.  Now there are 102.

http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?B=112

Anyway...natsukashii! :)

 

[Takanorappa 97]

1 hour ago, Pandaazuma said:

Was just looking at the banzuke for when I joined Bench (Aki 2008) and it's amazing to think we had five divisions back then.  Where did everyone go??  Was it the yaocho scandal or a drip drip drip?  189 players on that banzuke.  Now there are 102.

http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?B=112

Anyway...natsukashii! :)

 

I have a stat for that!  Check out the Count of Ranks by Basho  stat.  It, indeed was a trickle, though we did drop 40+ in a two year period following the scandal.  

Maybe I should graph it for even more clarity.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Takanorappa

[Jejima 1,415]

On 18/04/2017 at 01:35, Takanorappa said:

Legitimate oopsie.  It is, indeed, Bench bashos, and not ICFs (we haven't hit 94 ICFs, yet).  I must point out, however, that my banzuke commentary is many bashos old (The last being Nagoya 2015).  The time-to-number of reads ratio just wasn't worth it to keep that feature it going. I was spending many hours preparing the commentary, and getting just a handful of reads.   If there is a big enough outdry (or I get bored), I may update, occasionally.

I love the commentary!  But realise that it is time-consuming.

[Takanorappa 97]

I have another new stat - Bench Matches per basho!  I can't believe that I didn't think of this stat before.   Besides the posted link, you can get there from my usual stats page, as well.

If you have ever wondered how many times that you have gone to the bench in a basho, this stat will answer that.  I was shocked by the fact that I have had just one basho with no bench bouts.  Pitinosato holds the record of most bench bouts in a basho at 12.  Enjoy.

PS- I may do the work for how many bench wins and losses per basho, as well

[Ack! 478]

How does one join this game?

[shimodahito 317]

http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/Menu.aspx

 

[Jejima 1,415]

On 07/05/2017 at 05:43, Ack! said:

How does one join this game?

Currently the only way is by asking Doitsuyama to add you to the Bench Sumo Database.  

What shikona (figting nickname) do you wish to use to play the game?

[Ack! 478]

On 5/8/2017 at 17:37, Jejima said:

Currently the only way is by asking Doitsuyama to add you to the Bench Sumo Database.  

What shikona (figting nickname) do you wish to use to play the game?

I'm good with "Ack!" thanks!

[Fujisan 533]

On 17 April 2017 at 18:35, Takanorappa said:

Legitimate oopsie.  It is, indeed, Bench bashos, and not ICFs (we haven't hit 94 ICFs, yet).  I must point out, however, that my banzuke commentary is many bashos old (The last being Nagoya 2015).  The time-to-number of reads ratio just wasn't worth it to keep that feature it going. I was spending many hours preparing the commentary, and getting just a handful of reads.   If there is a big enough outdry (or I get bored), I may update, occasionally.

Thanks I thought so...

I did know they where old comments but since the issue I mentioned still applies....

I haven't missed an  ICF and I dont think Jezz or Doitsuyama have missed since then...

I read all the banzuke comments I love them and they have information I cant see anywhere else..

If you are not bringing them back can you at least tell me who else has never missed an Icf....

I think last time you mentioned it there where 7 players who have been in every ICF....Has that changed?

[Jejima 1,415]

Doitsuyama has been (sadly) absent for several bashos in-a-row....

[Takanorappa 97]

On 5/10/2017 at 21:28, Fujisan said:

If you are not bringing them back can you at least tell me who else has never missed an Icf....

I think last time you mentioned it there where 7 players who have been in every ICF....Has that changed?

Well, I am, obviously, not bringing back the banzuke comments for this basho...

To answer your question, the following have not missed an ICF: Fujisan, Jejima, Kintamayama, Oshirokita and me. It's down to 5.

[Fujisan 533]

On 13 May 2017 at 04:40, Jejima said:

Doitsuyama has been (sadly) absent for several bashos in-a-row....

I never noticed that.....

Come back soon Doitsuyama you will be missed.........

[Fujisan 533]

4 hours ago, Takanorappa said:

 

To answer your question, the following have not missed an ICF: Fujisan, Jejima, Kintamayama, Oshirokita and me. It's down to 5.

And 3 three of them are frosties......

Thanks for that Takanorappa.........

[Jejima 1,415]

Hi everyone!

 

Here is the new banzuke for July 2017.  It was carefully crafted by Kaiomitsuki, Flohru and Jejima, with Kintamayama, Ekigozan and Asashosakari looking on.

 

There is a little bad luck in a few places, but there is rather more good luck being sprinkled around.

 

This was also an easy banzuke to put together, as the initial drafts of the three banzuke makers were similar.

 

You will see that we now have FIVE Sekiwakes!  An infestation of them!

 

I have managed to find the official guidelines for Ozeki promotion, from the old rules page, stored at the wayback machine.

 

It reads as follows:-

 

Bench Ozeki promotion

The guide-line for promotion to Bench Ozeki is a score of 30 or more wins over three consecutive bashos. The second basho of which, the Bench rikishi in question, should ideally be ranked in Sanyaku (either Komusubi or Sekiwake), and the third basho at Sekiwake. In the times when a new Ozeki is needed, the guidelines will become more lenient. 

We (the banzuke-makers) have had a discussion, and are now adding the following rules/guidelines....

 

Although, it is preferred that an Ozeki run includes the last two bashos in sanyaku (with the very last at Sekiwake), it is not an absolute must.  However, (see below), with Achiyama's rise to the lower joi-jin, we have decided to make it a rule that an Ozeki run must start in Makunouchi - so previous Juryo results will not be considered.

 

Additionally, we used to prefer that an Ozeki run was 'kosho' free.  But after discussion, we have decided to look upon players with one kosho (in a four-basho run) more leniently.

 

Remember the above is mostly guidelines.  The banzuke makers may consider other factors when deciding whether to promote or not....

 

Therefore all five Sekiwakes have some chance of being promoted to Ozeki after the July basho.

 

 

 

S1E ScreechingOwl:  Mar S2W 9-6, May S1E 10-5, [Jul 11-4?] - NB ScreechingOwl's good consistency in the upper part of the banzuke over the past year might also be taken into account.

 

S1W Damimonay:  Mar M7W 12-3, May K1E 10-5, [Jul 8-7?]

 

S2E Rubensan:  Mar M5W 11-4, May K1W 10-5, [Jul 9-6?]

 

S2W Gaijingai:  Mar M6E 8-7, May M3E 12-3, [Jul 10-5???] - NB does not quite meet the guidelines, as only one basho will be at sanyaku - and the first basho in the series looks rather poor....  but another yusho, or Jun-yusho?  Who knows?

 

S3W Konosato:  Jan M5E 9-6, Mar M2E 10-5, May S2E KOSHO, [Jul 11-4???] - NB Only one active basho in sanyaku, and the kosho does not help his case... 

 

Here is the whole of the new banzuke....

 

Enjoy!

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)

 

 

Kitakachiyama (Y1E 3-12)   Y1
Susanoo (O1W 11-4)         O1  Itachiyama (O1E 9-6)
ScreechingOwl (S1E 10-5)   S1  Damimonay (K1E 10-5)

Rubensan (K1W 10-5)        S2  Gaijingai (M3E 12-3)

                           S3  Konosato (S2E KOSHO)

pandaazuma (M3W 10-5)      K1  Taka (M2E 9-6)

 

kuroimori (M1W 8-7)        M1  Metzinowaka (M2W 8-7)

Kintamayama (K2W 7-8)       2  Itachi (S1W 6-9)
tokugawa (M5E 8-7)          3  Pitinosato (M8W 9-6)

Hokuyutaka (M4E KOSHO)      4  Ekigozan (M4W KOSHO)

Gawasukotto (M6W 8-7)       5  Achiyama (J1W 13-2)

Ruziklao (M1E 5-10)         6  Gurowake (S2W 4-11)
Flohru (M6E 7-8)            7  Jakusotsu (M11W 9-6)

Saruyama (M7W 7-8)          8  Oshirokita (M12W 9-6) 

Chocshoporyu (M10W 8-7)     9  tainosen (M9W KOSHO)

Haidouzo (M5W 6-9)         10  Leonishiki (M9E 7-8)

Watashi (M7E 6-9)          11  Yamashade (M14W 9-6)
Chimatayama (M12E KOSHO)   12  Hana-ichi (M8E 6-9)
Getayukata (M13E KOSHO)    13  Norizo (M10E 6-9)
nomadwolf (M15E 8-7)       14  Boltbutthamma (M15W 8-7)
Bill (J1E 9-6)             15  Terarno (J2E 9-6)

Chijanofuji (J4E 9-6)      16  Anjoboshi (J7E 10-5)

 

Fujisan (J5W 8-7)          J1  Furanohana (J6E 8-7)

Yassier (M13W 5-10)         2  GONZABUROW (M14E 5-10)

Tenshinhan (J10E 9-6)       3  chishafuwaku (J8E 8-7)

Kaiomitsuki (J8W 8-7)       4  Sherlockiama (J11E 9-6)

Tsunamiko (J4W 7-8)         5  Randomitsuki (ms1E 11-4)

Unkonoyama (J3E 6-9)        6  mischashimaru (J3W 6-9)

shimodahito (M16E 4-11)     7  Jejima (J11W 8-7)
Roundeye (J5E 6-9)          8  Marushiki (ms1W 10-5)

kamogawa (M16W 3-12)        9  Rowitoro (J13W 8-7)

Holleshoryu (J9W 7-8)      10  Kaiowaka (J7W 6-9)

Smoczayama (M11E 0-0-15)   11  toonoryu (J10W 7-8)

Sakura (ms3E 10-5)         12  iwakoko (J9E 6-9)

Frinkanohana (J14E 8-7)    13  Kintsubasa (J14W 8-7)

fujiyama (ms2W 9-6)        14  Chisaiyama (J12E 7-8)

 

Sebunshu (ms2E 8-7)       ms1  Kotononami (J6W 4-11)

Maeden (ms17E 13-2)         2  Takanorappa (ms6E 9-6)

Kasamatsuri (J12W 6-9)      3  Wamahada (ms3W KOSHO)

andonishiki (ms10E 10-5)    4  Mariohana (ms8E 9-6)

Senkoho (ms7E 8-7)          5  Fujiko (ms4E 7-8)

VESHANA (ms5W 7-8)          6  Akokoneko (ms6W KOSHO)

Heiyu (ms11E 8-7)           7  Hironoumi (ms7W KOSHO)

Mmikasazuma (ms12E 8-7)     8  Unagiyutaka (ms16W 9-6)

Kitanoyama (ms8W 7-8)       9  Nanahachi (ms4W 5-10)

Kyodaitimu (ms5E 5-10)     10  Basoyama (ms13W 8-7)

Kitahotaru (ms15W 8-7)     11  Andoreasu (ms9E 6-9)

Mukanibaru (ms9W 6-9)      12  Aome (J13E 0-0-15)

Aminoumi (ms10W 3-12)      13  Bunijiman (ms13E 4-11)

Nekonishiki (ms14E 4-11)   14  Hibarifuji (ms12W 3-12)

Rikishimiezi (ms15E KOSHO) 15  sekihiryu (ms16E KOSHO)

Intai:
Maguroyama (J2W 5-10)

Banzuke-gai:
Doitsuyama (ms11W 0-0-15)
Ihopeso (ms14W 0-0-15)

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Doitsuyama intai??? Ihopenot! :(

[Takanorappa 97]

(Cross-posting from the Bench Sumo list, due to the lull)

Hi, all.  I've updated my Bench Sumo Stats page with the results of the latest basho.  No new stats, but plenty to digest.  You can reach the stats at the usual location: http://takanorappa.com/ichimons.htm (then click on the Misc. Bench Stats link).

 

Also updated are the banzuke-related pages for the recently released Nagoya banzuke.  Look to the main page for that info. 

[Jejima 1,415]

Hi all!
 

Going into the last basho, we had 5 Sekiwakes all on legitimate Ozeki runs!  Now that the dust has cleared, the Bench Banzuke committee is happy to announce that one of these five did more than enough to reach the required standard, and we now have a new bench Ozeki!

 

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Rubensan!
 

The Sakura Ichimon's Rubensan's record over the past three basho has been....

March 2017 - M5W 11-4

May 2017 - K1W 10-5

July 2017 - S2E 10-5
 

This exceeds the guideline of 30 wins over three bashos, with the last two in sanyaku, and the very last one at Sekiwake.
 

Rubensan is a long-time player of Bench Sumo, so I am very pleased to announce his promotion.
 

I will be sending Oyakata's Flohru and Kaiomitsuki (the other banzuke makers), around to Rubensan's heya to officially announce the good news.  I hope that we will be hearing an acceptance speech from the shin-ozeki in due course!
 

Jejima (Bench Sumo Rijicho)

Edited July 30, 2017 by Jejima

[Jejima 1,415]

Hi everyone!

Kaiomitsuki, Flohru and Jejima, under the watchful eyes of the emeriti Kintamayama, Ekigozan and Asashosakari, have crafted the new Bench Banzuke for September 2017.

This one was trickier than usual - especially as the sanyaku has been reduced from the bloated 10 in July, to the Bench Sumo's preferred standard of just 8.  Usually when a sanyaku downsizing happens, it means a knock-on effect for players with MKs in Makunouchi receiving more bad luck than usual - and for the MK players in the lower half of the top division, this has happened....  be warned!

Apart from the horrifying amounts of bad luck for some MK players in lower Makunouchi, the rest of the banzuke seems to be mostly devoid either of lots of luck, one way or the other.

Enjoy!

 

Jejima (BS rijicho)

 

Kitakachiyama (Y1E KOSHO) Y1
Itachiyama (O1W 10-5) O1 Susanoo (O1E 6-9)

                                   O2 Rubensan (S2E 10-5)
Konosato (S3W 10-5) S1 ScreechingOwl (S1E 9-6)
Hokuyutaka (M4E 12-3) K1 Metzinowaka (M1W 9-6)

Damimonay (S1W 7-8) M1 Chocshoporyu (M9E 11-4)
tokugawa (M3E 8-7) 2 Pitinosato (M3W 8-7)
Gaijingai (S2W 6-9) 3 Saruyama (M8E 10-5)
Kintamayama (M2E 7-8) 4 Itachi (M2W 7-8)
Ruziklao (M6E 8-7) 5 pandaazuma (K1E 5-10)
Taka (K1W 5-10) 6 Jakusotsu (M7W 8-7)
Gurowake (M6W 7-8) 7 Norizo (M13W 9-6)
Achiyama (M5W 6-9) 8 Yassier (J2E 12-3)
Watashi (M11E 8-7) 9 Flohru (M7E 6-9)
Gawasukotto (M5E 5-10) 10 Leonishiki (M10W KOSHO)
tainosen (M9W 7-8) 11 kuroimori (M1E 3-12)
Getayukata (M13E 8-7) 12 Hana-ichi (M12W KOSHO)
nomadwolf (M14E 8-7) 13 Boltbutthamma (M14W 8-7)
Bill (M15E 8-7) 14 Kaiomitsuki (J4E 11-4)
Haidouzo (M10E 7-8) 15 Oshirokita (M8W 6-9)
Yamashade (M11W 7-8) 16 Anjoboshi (M16W KOSHO)
Chimatayama (M12E 7-8) 17 Furanohana (J1W 8-7)

Roundeye (J8E 11-4) J1 Terarno (M15W 6-9)
chishafuwaku (J3W 8-7) 2 Fujisan (J1E 7-8)
Ekigozan (M4W 0-0-15) 3 GONZABUROW (J2W 7-8)
kamogawa (J9E 10-5) 4 Holleshoryu (J10E 10-5)
Tsunamiko (J5E KOSHO) 5 mischashimaru (J6W 8-7)
Jejima (J7W 8-7) 6 Chijanofuji (M16E 4-11)
Tenshinhan (J3E 6-9) 7 andonishiki (ms4E 12-3)
Mariohana (ms4W 12-3) 8 Frinkanohana (J13E 9-6)
Sherlockiama (J4W 5-10) 9 toonoryu (J11W 8-7)
Sebunshu (ms1E 9-6) 10 Kaiowaka (J10W KOSHO)
Unkonoyama (J6E 5-10) 11 Fujiko (ms5W 10-5)
Sakura (J12E KOSHO) 12 iwakoko (J12W KOSHO)
shimodahito (J7E 5-10) 13 Rowitoro (J9W 6-9)
Kotononami (ms1W 8-7) 14 Takanorappa (ms2W 8-7)

Andoreasu (ms11W 11-4) ms1 fujiyama (J14E 7-8)
Marushiki (J8W 4-11) 2 Hironoumi (ms7W 9-6)
Kitahotaru (ms11E 10-5) 3 Kasamatsuri (ms3E 7-8)
Kintsubasa (J13W 5-10) 4 Basoyama (ms10W 8-7)
Chisaiyama (J14W 5-10) 5 Maeden (ms2E 6-9)
Senkoho (ms5E 7-8) 6 Wamahada (ms3W 6-9)
Heiyu (ms7E KOSHO) 7 Akokoneko (ms6W 7-8)
Mmikasazuma (ms8E KOSHO) 8 Ihopeso (ms16E 9-6)
VESHANA (ms6E 6-9) 9 Nanahachi (ms9W KOSHO)
Nekonishiki (ms14E 8-7) 10 Kyodaitimu (ms10E 7-8)
Smoczayama (J11E 0-0-15) 11 Mukanibaru (ms12E 7-8)
Unagiyutaka (ms8W 5-10) 12 Kitanoyama (ms9E 5-10)
Aminoumi (ms13E 6-9) 13 Bunijiman (ms13W KOSHO)
Homuburyuwa (ms16W 7-8) 14 Hibarifuji (ms14W 5-10)
Kofujinokami (ms17E 5-10) 15 sekihiryu (ms15W 4-11)

Intai
Randomitsuki (J5W KOSHO)

Banzuke-gai
Aome (ms12W 0-0-15)
Rikishimiezi (ms15E 0-0-15)

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Am I right in saying that the Yahoo Bench mailing list is finally kaputski?  I did a forum search and it doesn't appear to have been mentioned anywhere.