Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Onwards to a new year in LKS, with this ballot: 1. Kisenosato 17 [score?] 2. Hokutofuji 10* 3. Yamaguchi 10 4. Harumafuji 7 [score?] 5. Shonannoumi 7 6. Daiamami 6* 7. Goshi 6 8. Oyanagi 5* 9. Rikishin 510. Ishibashi 5*11. Tamaki 5*12. Ichiki 5*13. Yamatoarashi 5 TB: [pick?] (* marks rikishi with no makekoshi since debut) The scoring and thus your game assignment: - For sanyaku: Please predict an exact record for each rikishi. The target record will be calculated after the deadline and will be chosen so that it bisects the predictions as evenly as possible. The predictions will then be converted into + and - votes as usual; one point for each correct prediction. - For lower-ranked rikishi: Please predict for each rikishi if he will finish KK or MK; one point for each correct prediction. (For clarification: If you're expecting an outright makekoshi for one of the sanyaku high-rankers, just predict MK, exact records are only needed on the kachikoshi side of things.) First tie-breaker: From among those 13 guys up there and the further 9 rikishi (5 'veterans' and 4 newcomers) who are currently just shy of a 5-KK streak, please guess how many KK you expect in total. Your tie-breaker guess may be anything from 0 to 22. Only exactly correct guesses qualify at this tie-breaker stage. Note: Sanyaku count as correct for the tie-breaker if they achieve KK, they do not need to meet their target records. Next 12 tie-breakers if needed: Correctly predicted rikishi, one-by-one in ballot order, i.e. starting at Kisenosato. Extra tie-breakers, should two or more players have entered identical ballots: Proximity of their tie-breaker guesses to the correct number, followed by proximity of their sanyaku rikishi guesses to the correct records (one-by-one in ballot order). Final tie-breaker: earliest entry. Note: Rikishi who show up on the before-shonichi kyujo list will be excluded from scoring (even if they end up joining the basho later), so it is not necessary to re-submit your entry if you picked such a rikishi as a KK; he will not count for points anyhow. You may, however, notify me if you'd like to reduce your tie-breaker guess by one point to compensate for the "missing" rikishi. Your position on the entry list (for final tie-breaker purposes) will be deemed unchanged in this special situation. Any other changes to a ballot will be considered a new entry, with correspondingly lower priority for the final tie-breaker. Deadline: Shonichi noon JST. Edited January 6, 2017 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,269 Posted January 6, 2017 1. 10-5 2. KK 3. MK 4. 11-4 5. MK 6. MK 7. KK 8. KK 9. KK10. KK11. KK12. MK13. MK TB:13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,384 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 1. Kisenosato 11-4 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 14-1 5. Shonannoumi MK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin KK10. Ishibashi KK11. Tamaki KK12. Ichiki KK13. Yamatoarashi MK TB: [16] Edited January 7, 2017 by Jejima Tie-breaker now entered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 814 Posted January 6, 2017 1. Kisenosato 11-4 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 10-5 5. Shonannoumi KK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin KK 10. Ishibashi MK 11. Tamaki KK 12. Ichiki MK 13. Yamatoarashi KK TB: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 857 Posted January 6, 2017 1. Kisenosato 12 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 12 5. Shonannoumi MK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin KK10. Ishibashi KK11. Tamaki KK12. Ichiki KK13. Yamatoarashi MK TB: 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 288 Posted January 6, 2017 12 KK KK 10 MK MK kk KK KK KK KK KK MK TB 16 It feels odd that there's only two sanyaku guys on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 6, 2017 @Jejima Your tiebreaker pick? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mmikasazuma 12 Posted January 6, 2017 1. Kisenosato 13 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 10 5. Shonannoumi KK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin KK10. Ishibashi KK11. Tamaki KK12. Ichiki MK13. Yamatoarashi KK TB 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,052 Posted January 7, 2017 1. Kisenosato 11 2. Hokutofuji + 3. Yamaguchi - 4. Harumafuji 11 5. Shonannoumi - 6. Daiamami - 7. Goshi - 8. Oyanagi + 9. Rikishin - 10. Ishibashi + 11. Tamaki + 12. Ichiki + 13. Yamatoarashi - TB: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted January 7, 2017 1. Kisenosato 11-4 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 11-4 5. Shonannoumi KK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi KK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin KK10. Ishibashi KK11. Tamaki KK12. Ichiki KK13. Yamatoarashi MK TB: 16 Pandaazuma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,606 Posted January 7, 2017 1. Kisenosato 11 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 11 5. Shonannoumi MK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin KK10. Ishibashi KK11. Tamaki MK12. Ichiki KK13. Yamatoarashi MK TB: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chishafuwaku 476 Posted January 7, 2017 1. Kisenosato 11-4 2. Hokutofuji KK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 10-5 5. Shonannoumi MK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin MK 10. Ishibashi KK 11. Tamaki MK 12. Ichiki KK 13. Yamatoarashi MK TB 11 chishafuwaku Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 361 Posted January 7, 2017 Kisenosato 11-4 Hokutofuji KK Yamaguchi MK Harumafuji 14-1 Shonanoumi KK Daiamami KK Goshi KK Oyanagi KK Rikishin KK Ishibashi KK Tamaki MK Ichiki KK Yamatoarashi KK TB: 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holleshoryu 16 Posted January 7, 2017 1. 12-3 2. KK 3. KK 4. 11-4 5. KK 6. KK 7. KK 8. KK 9. KK10. KK11. MK12. MK13. KK TB:13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achiyama 1,243 Posted January 7, 2017 1. Kisenosato 13 2. Hokutofuji MK 3. Yamaguchi KK 4. Harumafuji 10 5. Shonannoumi MK 6. Daiamami MK 7. Goshi MK 8. Oyanagi KK 9. Rikishin MK 10. Ishibashi KK 11. Tamaki KK 12. Ichiki KK 13. Yamatoarashi MK TB: 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 8, 2017 11 Kisenosato + Hokutofuji + Yamaguchi 11 Harumafuji + Shonannoumi - Daiamami - Goshi + Oyanagi + Rikishin + Ishibashi - Tamaki - Ichiki - Yamatoarashi TB: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted January 8, 2017 1 Kisenosato 11-4 2 Hokutofuji MK 3 Yamaguchi KK 4 Harumafuji 10-5 5 Shonannoumi KK 6 Daiamami KK 7 Goshi MK 8 Oyanagi KK 9 Rikishin MK 10 Ishibashi KK 11 Tamaki MK 12 Ichiki KK 13 Yamatoarashi KK TB 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) We start the new year as we ended the last one, with 15 participants including one newcomer - welcome, Tsuchinoninjin! Here are the selection stats: Player Kise Hokuto Yamag Haruma Shonan Daiama Goshi Oyanagi Rikish Ishiba Tamaki Ichiki Yamato TB Cons Tsuchinoninjin - 10-5 + - + 11-4 - - + + + + + - - 13 1.56 ryafuji - 11-4 + + - 10-5 + - - + + - + - + 12 1.72 Profomisakari + 12-3 + + + 12-3 - - - + + + + + - 13 1.22 Ryoshishokunin + 12-3 + + - 10-5 - - + + + + + + - 16 1.42 Mmikasazuma + 13-2 + + - 10-5 + - - + + + + - + 12 1.56 Jejima - 11-4 + + + 14-1 - - - + + + + + - 16 1.07 Gurowake - 11-4 + - + 11-4 - - - + - + + + - 12 1.49 Pandaazuma - 11-4 + + + 11-4 + - + + + + + + - 16 1.25 Tenshinhan - 11-4 + + + 11-4 - - - + + + - + - 12 1.16 chishafuwaku - 11-4 + + - 10-5 - - - + - + - + - 11 1.42 Tsubame - 11-4 + - + 14-1 + + + + + + - + + 17 1.81 Holleshoryu + 12-3 + + + 11-4 + + + + + + - - + 13 1.83 Achiyama + 13-2 - + - 10-5 - - - + - + + + - 13 1.70 Asashosakari - 11-4 + + + 11-4 + - - + + + - - - 12 1.32 kuroimori - 11-4 - + - 10-5 + + - + - + - + + 13 1.94 5:10 13:2 12:3 9:6 7:8 3:12 5:10 15:0 11:4 14:1 9:6 10:5 5:10 Results + + + - + + + + - + - + - 14 Kisenosato received a 12-3 target record again, although less than half of us expect him to make it, while Harumafuji was downgraded to 11-4. The surprising most unusual ballot was entered by ozeki kuroimori this time, while Jejima produced the most average picks - in fact, the most average possible, as all 13 votes were with the majority. Edited March 19, 2017 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 18, 2017 Results so far: Harumafuji's early withdrawal was a lucky break for the six players that predicted him for less than 11 wins. Beyond that... Day 8: Ozeki Kisenosato achieved the early KK, but of course still needs to win four more for his target. The first point of the competition was scored by Ishibashi who secured the quick 4-0. Good news for everyone bar ryafuji. Day 10: Lowest-ranked ballot rikishi Yamatoarashi picked up the largely expected makekoshi. In addition, three backup rikishi are already KK and will join the Haru ballot, namely collegiates Takemasa (Day 7), Hatooka (Day 9) and Kizaki (Day 10). The early standings: Day 10: 3/13 Decisions, TB 5-20 Pos Player Pts TB 1 chishafuwaku 3 11 2 Achiyama 3 13 3 Ryoshishokunin 3 16 4 Asashosakari 2 12 4 Gurowake 2 12 4 Mmikasazuma 2 12 4 Tenshinhan 2 12 8 kuroimori 2 13 8 Profomisakari 2 13 8 Tsuchinoninjin 2 13 11 Jejima 2 16 11 Pandaazuma 2 16 13 ryafuji 1 12 14 Holleshoryu 1 13 15 Tsubame 1 17 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 19, 2017 Day 11: Kachikoshi for Hokutofuji and Daiamami, one widely expected, the other much less so. And the backup ranks produced two further KKs (for Takagenji and Kotoinagaki), while Kotokuzan failed in his quest for 5 KK. No perfect scores now after the first five decisions. Day 11: 5/13 Decisions, TB 9-19 Pos Player Pts TB 1 chishafuwaku 4 11 2 Ryoshishokunin 4 16 3 Asashosakari 3 12 3 Gurowake 3 12 3 Mmikasazuma 3 12 3 Tenshinhan 3 12 7 Achiyama 3 13 7 Holleshoryu 3 13 7 kuroimori 3 13 7 Profomisakari 3 13 7 Tsuchinoninjin 3 13 12 Jejima 3 16 12 Pandaazuma 3 16 14 Tsubame 3 17 15 ryafuji 2 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 20, 2017 Day 12: Kachikoshi for Goshi and Ichiki in makushita, extending their streaks further. 10 correct picks on one of them, 10 wrong on the other, so a lot of variety in the day's results: 3 players scored both points, 3 others left emptyhanded. The backup ranks saw Hikarugenji drop to 2-4, so he won't be appearing on the next ballot. And the first sole leader of the basho is... Day 12: 7/13 Decisions, TB 11-18 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Ryoshishokunin 6 16 2 chishafuwaku 5 11 3 Pandaazuma 5 16 4 Tsubame 5 17 5 Gurowake 4 12 5 Tenshinhan 4 12 7 Achiyama 4 13 7 Holleshoryu 4 13 7 kuroimori 4 13 7 Profomisakari 4 13 7 Tsuchinoninjin 4 13 12 Jejima 4 16 13 Asashosakari 3 12 13 Mmikasazuma 3 12 15 ryafuji 2 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Day 13: Kise's target-clinching 12th win came on a freebie, and youngster Shonannoumi achieved his 8th straight kachikoshi. Both outcomes weren't that widely predicted, and only two players managed to score with both. The leader wasn't among them, but neither was any of his immediate pursuers, so the sole lead is still on: Day 13: 9/13 Decisions, TB 12-18 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Ryoshishokunin 7 16 2 Holleshoryu 6 13 3 Pandaazuma 6 16 4 Tsubame 6 17 5 Mmikasazuma 5 12 6 Achiyama 5 13 6 kuroimori 5 13 6 Profomisakari 5 13 9 chishafuwaku 5 11 10 Asashosakari 4 12 10 Gurowake 4 12 10 Tenshinhan 4 12 13 Tsuchinoninjin 4 13 14 Jejima 4 16 15 ryafuji 3 12 Edited January 21, 2017 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 22, 2017 Day 14: Juryo streakers Yamaguchi and Oyanagi both collected their KK-clinching win, largely to approval by us. And a little earlier collegiate talent Tamaki was sent to makekoshi - this was a minority opinion. The backup ranks finish with 5 incoming rikishi as the last remaining candidates Tochimaru and Daiseido both went makekoshi. Day 14: 12/13 Decisions, TB 14-15 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Holleshoryu 9 13 1 Ryoshishokunin 9 16 3 chishafuwaku 8 11 3 kuroimori 8 13 3 Pandaazuma 8 16 3 Tsubame 8 17 7 Achiyama 7 13 7 Asashosakari 7 12 7 Mmikasazuma 7 12 7 Profomisakari 7 13 7 Tenshinhan 7 12 12 Jejima 6 16 13 Gurowake 5 12 13 ryafuji 5 12 13 Tsuchinoninjin 5 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 22, 2017 Day 15: Only 4 players had selected a makekoshi as juryo rookie Rikishin's likely outcome, but two of them were part of the group trying to chase down the leaders - and when the MK came to pass today, suddenly we found ourselves with 4 players tied at the top. Time for some tie-breaking! Chishafuwaku, Holleshoryu, kuroimori and Ryoshishokunin will battle it out. TB scores? Who needs TB scores? That's a miss across the entire field, not just our four contenders. First bracket: Yusho winner Kisenosato's 12+ wins. Chishafuwaku and kuroimori did not expect that, so they're out. Second bracket: Hokutofuji's kachikoshi, correctly predicted by both remaining players. Third bracket: Yamaguchi's kachikoshi, also predicted by both. Fourth bracket: Harumafuji's injury-shortened appearance that made him miss his 11-4 target by a mile. Holleshoryu made the more optimistic guess - too optimistic, and he's out as well. Congrats, Ryoshishokunin! First yusho for him, following a loss in another bracket playoff exactly a year ago. The final standings: Day 15: 13/13 Decisions, TB 14 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Ryoshishokunin 9 16 2 chishafuwaku 9 11 2 Holleshoryu 9 13 2 kuroimori 9 13 5 Achiyama 8 13 5 Pandaazuma 8 16 5 Tsubame 8 17 8 Asashosakari 7 12 8 Mmikasazuma 7 12 8 Profomisakari 7 13 8 Tenshinhan 7 12 12 Gurowake 6 12 12 Jejima 6 16 14 ryafuji 5 12 14 Tsuchinoninjin 5 13 New ballot for Haru 2017: 1. Kisenosato 18 2. Hokutofuji 11* 3. Yamaguchi 11 Harumafuji 7 4. Shonannoumi 8 5. Daiamami 7* 6. Goshi 7 7. Oyanagi 6* Rikishin 5 8. Ishibashi 6* Tamaki 5* 9. Ichiki 6* Yamatoarashi 5 10. Takagenji 5 11. Kizaki 5* 12. Takemasa 5* 13. Hatooka 5* 14. Kotoinagaki 5* --- 15. Tamawashi 4 16. Ryuden 4 Another bunch of yet-to-MK rookies plus two new sekitori, should be an interesting game next time. As always, thanks for playing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,320 Posted January 22, 2017 Scores for banzuke purposes: Ryoshishokunin 10 (9+top) chishafuwaku 10 (9+top) Holleshoryu 10 (9+top) kuroimori 10 (9+top) Achiyama 8 Pandaazuma 8 Tsubame 8 Asashosakari 7 Mmikasazuma 7 Profomisakari 7 Tenshinhan 7 Gurowake 6 Jejima 6 ryafuji 5 Tsuchinoninjin 5 Total: 114 / 15 = 7.60 ---> no adjustment New banzuke for Haru 2017: kuroimori (O1w 10-5 D) O1 Tenshinhan (O1e 7-8) chishafuwaku (Se 10-5 D) O2 --- Holleshoryu (Kw 10-5 D) S1 Ryoshishokunin (M2w 10-5 Y) --- S2 Asashosakari (O2e 7-8) Pandaazuma (Ke 8-7) K Achiyama (M1e 8-7) Mmikasazuma (Sw 7-8) M1 Tsubame (M3e 8-7) Profomisakari (M4e 7-8) M2 Gurowake (M2e 6-9) ryafuji (M1w 5-10) M3 Harry (M3w kosho) Jejima (M4w 6-9) M4 Tsuchinoninjin (NR 5-10) Tenshinhan's extended tsunatori has fizzled out now, unfortunately, and he'll be kadoban. Kuroimori was also on watch following last basho's jun-yusho, but the four-way playoff loss here hasn't quite added enough to merit promotion. It's a definite tsunatori for March, though. Asashosakari, on the other hand, sees his 13-basho ozeki stint end after back-to-back 7-8's. We do continue on with three ozeki, as Kyushu yusho winner chishafuwaku posted another top result this basho, which made for an easy call. Congrats on the promotion! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites