Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) And the beat goes on. The head gyoji, the top gyoji, the highest ranked gyoji, 40th Shikimori Inosuke is being accused of sexually harassing a younger gyoji during the winter jungyo last December 16th. It seems he got drunk during dinner and "kissed his lips and touched his chest ", as it were, it was learned today. Other gyoji who knew about this came forward and reported it. The Kyokai will convene a special rijikai to see how to deal with this. In the meantime, he has apologized to the young gyoji who apparently is in shock. "I don't remember a thing - I was drunk.." said Inosuke. "Anyway, I am not interested in men so I have no idea how this could have happened..", he added. The victim has no intention of going to the police and pressing charges or of demanding Inosuke be punished by the Kyokai, but the Kyokai can't let this slide of course, now that it's out in the open. "I just gave a lecture on how we can't have people getting dead drunk and losing it and the top gyoji of all people shows no leadership?? Shameful!! He has been warned in the past about his drinking, yet he has done it again. Drinking himself senseless is not good. As a gyoji, it is shameful! " cried Hakkaku rijicho. The usual top gyoji is named Kimura Shounosuke, but that post has been empty for quite a while, and I am guessing the Kyokai knew EXACTLY why. Edited January 7, 2018 by Kintamayama 1 2 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 5, 2018 Perhaps this is the reason Hakuho hates him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 192 Posted January 5, 2018 Shameful, indeed. I am of the school of thought that drunkenness is no excuse for bad behavior and for a senior gyoji to behave this way is just repugnant and reprehensible, if true. Yuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 5, 2018 51 minutes ago, Oshirokita said: Shameful, indeed. I am of the school of thought that drunkenness is no excuse for bad behavior and for a senior gyoji to behave this way is just repugnant and reprehensible, if true. Yuck. True, since he apologized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,843 Posted January 6, 2018 #metooizumi... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 119 Posted January 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Bumpkin said: Perhaps this is the reason Hakuho hates him. Hakuho hates Shikimori Inosuke? Who says this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 6, 2018 50 minutes ago, Itachiyama said: Hakuho hates Shikimori Inosuke? Who says this? I don't recall the specific posts. Perhaps someone could confirm/ deny this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted January 6, 2018 Like the NSK needs another scandal at the moment! Wonder if the younger gyoji worked up the confidence from Takanohana's playbook of reporting inside dirt to the outside world (i.e., police), or if it was riding the #metoo wake that has reached Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted January 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Kintamayama said: The usual top gyoji is named Kimura Shounosuke, but that post has been empty for quite a while, and I am guessing the Kyokai knew EXACTLY why. And here I thought it was because of his merely borderline competence. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,671 Posted January 6, 2018 Everybody may be getting a promotion sooner than they were expecting if things go the way some of us think they might go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Amamaniac said: Like the NSK needs another scandal at the moment! Wonder if the younger gyoji worked up the confidence from Takanohana's playbook of reporting inside dirt to the outside world (i.e., police), or if it was riding the #metoo wake that has reached Japan. The younger gyoji didn't report it- the gyoji-kai became aware of it and reported it. Seems like it did take them a few days, though..It happened on December 16th, so three weeks. Edited January 6, 2018 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bumpkin said: I don't recall the specific posts. Perhaps someone could confirm/ deny this. Denied. They are from the same heya, so if anything, the opposite. Edited January 6, 2018 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kuroyama said: And here I thought it was because of his merely borderline competence. That too, but what Hakkaku said tells us is this isn't his first transgression. Edited January 6, 2018 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) Miyagino Oyakata apologized for Inosuke's behavior. "While I will be guiding him, he has acted in an inappropriate manner and it is indeed regrettable. When he drinks, he loses his true character and I have warned him about this. I can only try to make him stop drinking. I will leave it up to the Kyokai to deal with his punishment" he said. Edited January 6, 2018 by Kintamayama 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arn 24 Posted January 6, 2018 I would imagine he is at the center of a pretty bad drinking culture, but still hard to understand how a man of his age and his standing allows himself to get blackout-drunk like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,937 Posted January 6, 2018 Only the gyoji-kai knew, noone else, not even the jungyo-boss? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Benihana said: Only the gyoji-kai knew, noone else, not even the jungyo-boss? Good question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,530 Posted January 6, 2018 "I don't think he's gay. But he loves sake.." said Hakuhou about Inosuke today as he left the heya to go home. They have known each other for many years since they belong to the same heya, says the reporter, so I highly doubt Hakuhou "hated" Inosuke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Oshirokita said: Shameful, indeed. I am of the school of thought that drunkenness is no excuse for bad behavior An obvious insight that lawmakers (unfortunately) do not share (whyohwhy...). If a situation of incapacity (may be the wrong legal term in English) is self-induced, punishment should be harsher IMHO. Edited January 6, 2018 by yorikiried by fate 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Kintamayama said: When he drinks, he loses his true character Hah! When people drink, all too much of their true character is revealed when it escapes the repression imposed on it by social, economic and cultural conventions. The "true character" of Kyokai members is even doubly repressed because they are drilled to act out an ancient culture in a world that has passed on. I wonder how many actually suffer mental health problems because of this? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,790 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) Recent goyji scandal: March 29th 2010 then makushita Kimura Rinnosuke (now juryo Kimura Chishuu) was arrested for domestic violence and found guilty in October: he then got suspended for 2 basho, the following Kuyshu and Hatsu. http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201801060000144.html http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/20024-gyoji-arrested-for-assault/ We'll see if Inosuke gets (away with) suspensions - and if now somebody else gets promoted to Shonosuke soon to have a tate-gyoji at the basho I skip the old pics of Inosuke at work (presuming he will still have a future in the NSK), and just post the list of all gyoji with rank, name, kana reading, real name and heya - made from http://www.sumo.or.jp/IrohaKyokaiMember/gyoji/ o English: http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnSumoDataKyokaiMember/gyoji Edited January 6, 2018 by Akinomaki 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,084 Posted January 6, 2018 On 05/01/2018 at 18:50, Kintamayama said: The head gyoji, the top gyoji, the highest ranked gyoji [...] " touched his chest " Groped by the long arm of the law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,790 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) There will be a riji-kai in the near future to decide on how to deal with Inosuke Miyagino-oyakata and Hakuho (after keiko) commented - the heya already has more than enough reprimands oo oo o with Harumafuji, the one already ousted by the scandal - Inosuke picked a bad time for misbehaving, and a tate-gyoji is like a yokozuna among the gyoji - with higher requirements for hinkaku than the makushita gyoji of 2010 o Edited January 7, 2018 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted January 6, 2018 Do we know the name of the "younger gyoji" who was allegedly assaulted? And do we have any more details about where this happened and who else was present? Seems like Harumafuji had his "incident" dissected in the press. I guess tategyoji don't get the full treatment reserved for Mongolian Yokozunas... (Yes, I know: apples and oranges... Just saying) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,663 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: Do we know the name of the "younger gyoji" who was allegedly assaulted? And do we have any more details about where this happened and who else was present? Seems like Harumafuji had his "incident" dissected in the press. I guess tategyoji don't get the full treatment reserved for Mongolian Yokozunas... (Yes, I know: apples and oranges... Just saying) What information about the incident do you think is missing between Kintamayama's summary in the first post and the earlier post elsewhere? Seems pretty clear-cut that nobody else was around when it happened. In any case, the junior gyoji is apparently under 20 and so will not be named due to regulations concerning the protection of minors. (Not that his identity would be particularly relevant even as an adult, so I'm not quite sure why you're asking.) Edited January 6, 2018 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites