Asashosakari 19,655 Posted May 10, 2018 We continue to have a sizable list of KK streakers at our disposal for LKS, including three new sanyaku-rankers joining us just in time - here's your prediction task for Natsu basho: 1. Abi 9 2. Takanosho 8 3. Ichiyamamoto 7* 4. Daishoryu 7 5. Ryuden 6 6. Kamito 6* 7. Kaisei 5 8. Daishoho 5 9. Takagenji 5 10. Mitoryu 5 11. Tomokaze 5* 12. Goeido 4 [score?] 13. Ichinojo 4 [score?] 14. Endo 4 [score?] 15. Shimanoumi 4 TB: [pick?] (* marks rikishi with no makekoshi since debut) The scoring and thus your game assignment: For sanyaku: Please predict an exact record for each rikishi. The target record will be calculated after the deadline and will be chosen so that it bisects the predictions as evenly as possible. The predictions will then be converted into + and - votes as usual; one point for each correct prediction. For lower-ranked rikishi: Please predict for each rikishi if he will finish KK or MK; one point for each correct prediction. (For clarification: If you're expecting an outright makekoshi for one of the sanyaku high-rankers, just predict MK, exact records are only needed on the kachikoshi side of things.) First tie-breaker: From among those 15 guys up there and the further 7 rikishi who are currently just shy of a 5-KK streak, please guess how many KK you expect in total. Your tie-breaker guess may be anything from 0 to 22. Only exactly correct guesses qualify at this tie-breaker stage. Note: Sanyaku count as correct for the tie-breaker if they achieve KK, they do not need to meet their target records. Next 14 tie-breakers if needed: Correctly predicted rikishi, one-by-one in ballot order, i.e. starting at Abi. Extra tie-breakers, should two or more players have entered identical ballots: Proximity of their tie-breaker guesses to the correct number, followed by proximity of their sanyaku rikishi guesses to the correct records (one-by-one in ballot order). Final tie-breaker: earliest entry. Note: Rikishi who show up on the before-shonichi kyujo list will be excluded from scoring (even if they end up joining the basho later), so it is not necessary to re-submit your entry if you picked such a rikishi as a KK; he will not count for points anyhow. You may, however, notify me if you'd like to reduce your tie-breaker guess by one point to compensate for the "missing" rikishi. Your position on the entry list (for final tie-breaker purposes) will be deemed unchanged in this special situation. Any other changes to a ballot will be considered a new entry, with correspondingly lower priority for the final tie-breaker. Deadline: Shonichi noon JST. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted May 10, 2018 Abi - mk Takanosho- kk Ichiyamamoto - mk Daishoryu - mk Ryuden - kk Kamito - kk Kaisei - mk Daishoho - kk Takagenji - mk Mitoryu - mk Tomokaze - kk Goeido - 9 wins Ichinojo - 10 wins Endo - mk Shimanoumi - mk TB - 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 323 Posted May 10, 2018 LKS Natsu 18 MK KK KK MK KK KK MK KK MK KK MK 8 8 MK KK TB: 11 (-1 if Mitoryu kyujo day 1) (I seem to think that everyone in Sanyaku’s in trouble. This is probably wrong.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 368 Posted May 11, 2018 Abi MK Takanosho KK Ichiyamamoto MK Daishoryu KK Ryuden KK Kamito KK Kaisei MK Daishoho MK Takagenji MK Mitoryu KK Tomokaze KK Goeido 10 Ichinojo 8 Endo 5 Shimanoumi KK TB: 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,612 Posted May 11, 2018 1. Abi mk 2. Takanosho mk 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu mk 5. Ryuden mk 6. Kamito KK 7. Kaisei mk 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji mk10. Mitoryu KK11. Tomokaze KK12. Goeido 1013. Ichinojo 814. Endo mk15. Shimanoumi mk TB: 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 873 Posted May 11, 2018 1. Abi KK 2. Takanosho KK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu MK 5. Ryuden KK 6. Kamito KK 7. Kaisei KK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji KK 10. Mitoryu KK 11. Tomokaze KK 12. Goeido 11 13. Ichinojo 10 14. Endo 8 15. Shimanoumi KK TB: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,495 Posted May 11, 2018 22 hours ago, Asashosakari said: 1. Abi MK 2. Takanosho KK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu MK 5. Ryuden KK 6. Kamito KK 7. Kaisei MK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji MK10. Mitoryu KK11. Tomokaze MK12. Goeido 1113. Ichinojo 1014. Endo 815. Shimanoumi KK TB: 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted May 11, 2018 1. Abi MK 2. Takanosho MK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu MK 5. Ryuden MK 6. Kamito KK 7. Kaisei MK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji MK10. Mitoryu MK11. Tomokaze KK12. Goeido 9-613. Ichinojo 8-714. Endo MK15. Shimanoumi MK TB:12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,414 Posted May 12, 2018 1. Abi MK 2. Takanosho KK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu KK 5. Ryuden KK 6. Kamito MK 7. Kaisei MK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji MK10. Mitoryu MK11. Tomokaze KK12. Goeido 9-613. Ichinojo 8-714. Endo 8-715. Shimanoumi KK TB: 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted May 12, 2018 Abi - Takanosho - Ryuden - Kaisei - Daishoho + Takagenji - Mitoryu + Goeido 9 Ichinojo 8 Endo - Shimanoumi - Ichiyamamoto + Daishoryu - Kamito + Tomokaze + TB 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chishafuwaku 476 Posted May 12, 2018 1. Abi MK 2. Takanosho KK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu MK 5. Ryuden KK 6. Kamito MK 7. Kaisei MK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji KK 10. Mitoryu KK 11. Tomokaze KK 12. Goeido 9-6 13. Ichinojo 9-6 14. Endo 8-7 15. Shimanoumi MK TB 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted May 12, 2018 Abi MK Takanosho MK Ichiyamamoto KK Daishoryu MK Ryuden MK Kamito MK Kaisei MK Daishoho KK Takagenji KK Mitoryu KK Tomokaze KK Goeido 9 Ichinojo 8 Endo 7 Shimanoumi MK TB: 11 Pandaazuma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,276 Posted May 12, 2018 1. MK 2. MK 3. KK 4. MK 5. MK 6. MK 7. MK 8. KK 9. MK 10. KK 11. MK 12. KK 9-6 13. KK 10-5 14. MK 15. MK TB: 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,809 Posted May 12, 2018 1. Abi MK 2. Takanosho KK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu MK 5. Ryuden MK 6. Kamito MK 7. Kaisei MK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji KK10. Mitoryu KK11. Tomokaze KK12. Goeido 913. Ichinojo 1014. Endo 715. Shimanoumi MK TB: 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holleshoryu 17 Posted May 12, 2018 Abi - mk Takanosho- kk Ichiyamamoto - kk Daishoryu - mk Ryuden - kk Kamito - kk Kaisei - mk Daishoho - kk Takagenji - kk Mitoryu - kk Tomokaze - kk Goeido - 8 wins Ichinojo - 10 wins Endo - 6 wins Shimanoumi - kk TB - 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted May 12, 2018 Abi - Takanosho - Ichiyamamoto + Daishoryu - Ryuden - Kamito + Kaisei - Daishoho - Takagenji + Mitoryu + Tomokaze - Goeido 9 Ichinojo 10 Endo 7 Shimanoumi - TB 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,655 Posted May 13, 2018 - Abi + Takanosho + Ichiyamamoto - Daishoryu - Ryuden - Kamito - Kaisei - Daishoho - Takagenji + Mitoryu + Tomokaze 9 Goeido 9 Ichinojo 9 Endo - Shimanoumi TB 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achiyama 1,246 Posted May 13, 2018 1. Abi MK 2. Takanosho MK 3. Ichiyamamoto KK 4. Daishoryu MK 5. Ryuden MK 6. Kamito MK 7. Kaisei MK 8. Daishoho KK 9. Takagenji MK10. Mitoryu KK11. Tomokaze KK12. Goeido 913. Ichinojo 1014. Endo 815. Shimanoumi KK TB: 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,671 Posted May 13, 2018 Kosho if able please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted May 20, 2018 Day 8 so bumpety bump! :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,809 Posted May 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Pandaazuma said: Day 8 so bumpety bump! :) I believe the official name for this is pulling a "Giku". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suwihuto 133 Posted May 20, 2018 Erm, kosho please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,655 Posted May 21, 2018 Welcome to the 17 players participating in Natsu basho! The selection stats: Player Abi T'nosho I'moto D'ryu Ryuden Kamito Kaisei D'shoho T'genji Mito Tomo Goeido I'nojo Endo Shima TB Cons Bumpkin - + - - + + - + - - + - 9-6 + 10-5 - MK - 11 1.71 Ryoshishokunin - + + - + + - + - + - - 8-7 - 8-7 - MK + 11 1.47 Tsubame - + - + + + - - - + + + 10-5 - 8-7 - MK + 13 2.09 Tenshinhan - - + - - + - + - + + + 10-5 - 8-7 - MK - 10 1.45 Profomisakari + + + - + + + + + + + + 11-4 + 10-5 + 8-7 + 12 2.14 Sakura - + + - + + - + - + - + 11-4 + 10-5 + 8-7 + 13 1.75 ryafuji - - + - - + - + - - + - 9-6 - 8-7 - MK - 12 1.49 Jejima - + + + + - - + - - + - 9-6 - 8-7 + 8-7 + 14 1.88 Gurowake - - + - - + - + - + + - 9-6 - 8-7 - MK - 10 1.26 chishafuwaku - + + - + - - + + + + - 9-6 - 9-6 + 8-7 - 12 1.49 Pandaazuma - - + - - - - + + + + - 9-6 - 8-7 - MK - 11 1.43 Tsuchinoninjin - - + - - - - + - + - - 9-6 + 10-5 - MK - 8 1.53 Rocks - + + - - - - + + + + - 9-6 + 10-5 - MK - 11 1.39 Holleshoryu - + + - + + - + + + + - 8-7 + 10-5 - MK + 13 1.41 kuroimori - - + - - + - - + + - - 9-6 + 10-5 - MK - 12 1.76 Asashosakari - + + - - - - - - + + - 9-6 - 9-6 + 9-6 - 10 1.59 Achiyama - - + - - - - + - + + - 9-6 + 10-5 + 8-7 + 8 1.51 1:16 10:7 15:2 2:15 8:9 10:7 1:16 14:3 6:11 14:3 13:4 4:13 8:9 6:11 7:10 Results 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Like last basho no completely unanimous selections, but we do have a lot of very lopsided ones - over half the ballot has been picked 13:4 or in even more disparate fashion. We're back to three sanyaku rikishi for this edition, with both ozeki Goeido (narrowly) and sekiwake Ichinojo (quite decisively) being predicted for at least 10 wins, while komusubi debutant Endo received mostly MK picks and thus just needs to hit the normal 8-7 kachikoshi. Gurowake has produced the most average ballot this time; only his Takanosho selection went against the grain. Tenshinhan and ryafuji have two unconventional picks apiece, though they're not the next-best overall players by the consensus scores - Pandaazuma and Rocks have snuck in front with 3 less extreme picks against the majority, and Ryoshishokunin (also 3) has placed in between Tenshinhan and ryafuji. By far the most uncommon selections were entered by Profomisakari (8 against) and Tsubame (6). Gurowake's entry is also the most closely aligned with other players', sharing 14 of the 15 choices with both ryafuji and Tenshinhan. At the other end of the spectrum we find Jejima and kuroimori with only 4 picks in common. The tiebreaker selections are relatively uniform this basho. Numbers from 10 to 13 were all selected 3 or 4 times each, alongside one outlier pick on 14 and two on 8. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,655 Posted May 21, 2018 Day 9 You haven't missed much yet. In fact, today only brought the first couple of decisions with Goeido missing his 10-5 target (and KK altogether as he's out of the tournament), and Ryuden falling to MK. The 7 rikishi on 4 KK streaks have been a bit more active already - Day 7 saw sandanme Takiguchi achieve a 4-0 start so he'll be joining the ballot for July, as will Chiyonoumi who improved to 4-1 today. Onojo, however, had to leave the basho after his first match and is now MK having missed the next three rounds. The first standings: Day 9: 2/15 Decisions, TB 2-19 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Achiyama 2 8 1 Tsuchinoninjin 2 8 3 Asashosakari 2 10 3 Gurowake 2 10 5 Pandaazuma 2 11 5 Rocks 2 11 7 kuroimori 2 12 7 ryafuji 2 12 9 Tenshinhan 1 10 10 Bumpkin 1 11 10 Ryoshishokunin 1 11 12 chishafuwaku 1 12 13 Holleshoryu 1 13 14 Jejima 1 14 15 Profomisakari 0 12 16 Sakura 0 13 16 Tsubame 0 13 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,655 Posted May 22, 2018 Day 10 We continue to wait for the first kachikoshi on the ballot, but another MK has been completed - today's victim is Kaisei who thus ends his five-basho KK run that brought him from J1 to M1. Only Profomisakari decided to bet against that outcome. Also not part of the next ballot will be veteran Takamiryu, who fell to 1-4 in sandanme today and won't be getting that qualifying 5th kachikoshi now. Day 10: 3/15 Decisions, TB 2-17 Pos Player Pts TB 1 Achiyama 3 8 1 Tsuchinoninjin 3 8 3 Asashosakari 3 10 3 Gurowake 3 10 5 Pandaazuma 3 11 5 Rocks 3 11 7 kuroimori 3 12 7 ryafuji 3 12 9 Tenshinhan 2 10 10 Bumpkin 2 11 10 Ryoshishokunin 2 11 12 chishafuwaku 2 12 13 Holleshoryu 2 13 14 Jejima 2 14 15 Sakura 1 13 15 Tsubame 1 13 17 Profomisakari 0 12 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites