Akinomaki 40,163 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) A new New Hungary friendship cup for the yusho winner at the Natsu basho. Replacing the old one from 1986, now it is really a big cup - and saucer. https://this.kiji.is/498791804494611553 The ambassador with Shibatayama - for 15 liters of tea o 20kg, the old vase was 23kg. https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20190508-OYT1T50248/ No news yet about a Trump cup. Edited May 28, 2019 by Jakusotsu typo in subject line 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: No news yet about a Trump cup. No idea either, but I expect it to be HUGE and not as ugly as the World Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 728 Posted May 8, 2019 We have the best cups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,078 Posted May 8, 2019 Sumo-sized tea cup goes perfectly with the sumo-sized macaroon! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,163 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) On 08/05/2019 at 12:48, Akinomaki said: For the yusho winner at the Natsu basho. Replacing the old one from 1986, now it is really a big cup - and saucer. https://this.kiji.is/498791804494611553 The ambassador with Shibatayama - for 15 liters of tea 20kg, the old vase was 23kg. the old vase with the new cup o the ambassador back to normal size and sumo size for Shibatayama o o The normal size is on sale as 1 set for 40 000Yen, the sumo size took 2 years to produce - and is not on sale, but holds 100 times the amount of tea of the normal size - so 4 million yen would be appropriate Edited May 10, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,163 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Like mentioned in you-know-what thread, the (US) President Cup, 27-32kg, 137cm high, which Trump had made in the US last month, is now on display in the sumo museum. It will be awarded at each Natsu basho only (from now on till the next president cancels it) http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASM5W66XSM5WUTQP00V.html x It apparently has the same extras attached as the Prime Minister's Cup, after which it is presented in the first group: a certificate and the honor to get it. First the Emperor's cup, which has 10 million yen prize money attached, the flag, then the 2 honor cups, then the yusho interview, and then all the trophies with extras: the new Hungary really Cup was first. Old thread: Edited May 28, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mogami 6 Posted May 28, 2019 You might think of Trump what you want, but I find this to be a nice gesture. I doubt that any next president would cancel that, why would he ? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,744 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mogami said: You might think of Trump what you want, but I find this to be a nice gesture. I doubt that any next president would cancel that, why would he ? Well, everyone seems to forget we had the French Prime Minister's Cup which was established by Jack Chirac, an avid sumo fan, was awarded for a few years, then abandoned by one of his successors, I forgot who and not important. So it's not a first time thing, this Trumpcup. As for who will be awarding it in person in the future, even the Prime Minister's cup is not awarded every Tokyo basho by the Prime Minister of Japan himself. Edited May 28, 2019 by Kintamayama 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,163 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Sarkozy canceled the French cup the basho Chirac went out of office - May 2007 https://www.afpbb.com/articles/-/2222100?pid=1578030 Edited May 28, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,262 Posted May 28, 2019 Is there some large fee for these cups and why they are immediately cancelled? Seems spiteful otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 248 Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Well, everyone seems to forget we had the French Prime Minister's Cup which was established by Jack Chirac, an avid sumo fan, was awarded for a few years, then abandoned by one of his successors, I forgot who and not important. So it's not a first time thing, this Trumpcup. As for who will be awarding it in person in the future, even the Prime Minister's cup is not awarded every Tokyo basho by the Prime Minister of Japan himself. Jacques Chirac established the French President's Cup, not PM. And Sarkozy cancelled it when he arrived into office, brightening the removal with some particularly unpleasant comments on sumo wrestle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,163 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) On 28/05/2019 at 14:44, Tsuchinoninjin said: Is there some large fee for these cups and why they are immediately cancelled? Seems spiteful otherwise. Canceled for political reasons - to get rid of anything the predecessor liked. But in this case to emphasize good relations with Japan, Nagoya 2008 the Japan-France Friendship cup replaced it https://www.fsight.jp/4404, Nagoya 2011 the macaron became the extra http://www.ola-dosukoisports.com/Championship-Macron Quote The President's Cup, which was widely known as the "Jacques Chirac Cup," was abolished upon Chirac's retirement from the presidency in 2007. However, it made a comeback as the Japan-France Friendship Cup the very next year. This was based on the strong advice of a French diplomat who understood the role Sumo had played over the years in the bilateral relationship. The cup was revived with the aim of making it a symbol of friendship between the peoples of Japan and France. http://www.esuj.gr.jp/jitow/309_index_detail.php These concerned cups were awarded each basho - the new cup is only once a year - so it is easy to drop it completely. Edited May 30, 2019 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,917 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) I'm positive the next POTUS from whichever party he/she/it may be, will not cancel the cup. The costs for whatever comes with the cup is peanuts compared to the PR value. And albeit i still don't like it being that tall, i actually like the style. Simple, elegant curves, sleek and the eagle on top has the perfect size not to make it look pompous. Looks like the cup is attached to the saucer? Too bad, would be better for sipping sake out of it Edited May 28, 2019 by Benihana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,744 Posted May 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, Nantonoyama said: Jacques Chirac established the French President's Cup, not PM. And Sarkozy cancelled it when he arrived into office, brightening the removal with some particularly unpleasant comments on sumo wrestle. Right, I stand corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mogami 6 Posted June 3, 2019 This type of "cancel afterwards" is just realy pathetic.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
