Rainoyama 1,157 Posted October 27, 2019 Today was the last day of the Autumn tour. As it's been reported, Takakeisho joined the tour in Shizuoka on the 16th so was around for 11 days in total and doing mostly shiko and suri ashi, today he did squats with his tsukebito on his shoulders. "I'm glad I could do fundamental training properly" he commented On the injury "It's much better. It's healing even faster than expected. I have to continue to do what I need to do seriously and without rushing and it's only by putting my preparation to the test of a real basho that we'll be able to tell" he assessed Kyushu starts in two weeks. "There's still time and I'm getting there". It seems like he really wants to enter... https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201910270000700.html 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TakaTochi 4 Posted October 27, 2019 He's only 23. I really fear he's not giving himself enough time to fully heal. He's the type to put too much pressure on himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,274 Posted October 27, 2019 On 24/10/2019 at 19:16, sekitori said: The description of an injury can be very confusing. A broken arm can consist of a small hairline fracture. It can also be an extremely severe compound fracture. "Broken arm" in and of itself doesn't mean very much. Neither do the words "pectoral injury". As I mentioned previously, the only similarity between Kisenosato's and Takakeisho's injuries is that a tear of the pectoralis major muscle occurred. Kisenosato's involved the tendon at the top of the muscle while Takakeisho's was of the belly or middle of the muscle itself. Kisenosato's was much more severe, requiring surgery to heal properly. It was never performed. Takakeisho's course of treatment is having the muscle heal itself with time. No surgery is required. When "pectoral injury" is mentioned, think of "broken arm". There can be several interpretations for each one, some far more severe than others. I'm just wondering about that though because he keeps appearing with tape at the top of the muscle, not around the midsection/breast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,981 Posted November 20, 2019 Now that Takakeisho achieved kachi-koshi on day 11, here's a friendly reminder that it's not easy knowing things from afar: On 23/09/2019 at 09:47, Taikoubana said: What kind of blinders must one have to witness a yokozuna inevitably retire no more than a year ago in part due to a similar injury + not getting the surgery for it, but choose the exact same path despite the fact? We all saw that this kind of thing didn't just "heal." What point is there in crossing your fingers and hoping it might be different this time? (If I sound baffled, it's because I am.) On 23/09/2019 at 23:19, autotroph said: If he has actually detached his pectoral his career is over without surgery. Even with surgery, you would typically be prescribed recovery time on the order of 6 months. This can probably be reduced by 4 to 6 weeks by taking advantage of the drug-test-free sumo environment, but that would still see him lose his rank. Heartbreaking, I really like the guy. As someone else said about sumo success "deserve has nothing to do with it". On 01/10/2019 at 17:28, Otokonoyama said: Sayonara Ozeki. Welcome to elevator-rikishi life in the salaried ranks. In the best-case scenario where you eventually regain up to 70% of your former power, hope you'll have enough gas to fend off Kotoshogiku. Nothing wrong with being a journeyman. You could have been a contender. On 01/10/2019 at 19:08, robnplunder said: I know. He shouldn't be out there training right now. I ought to know, I had similarly devastating shoulder injuries (twice) and it really takes months to fully heal. He probably never had the same injury and doesn't know what he is doing. On 07/10/2019 at 16:52, word20 said: Exactly, If Takakeisho do not rest as needed or maybe surgery, then probably he will be the next person going down and demoted to lower divisions 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
autotroph 43 Posted November 20, 2019 I am going to be a pedant here and point out that I said "if he has detached his pectoral" - wasn't his injury a tear of the muscle belly, rather than a full detachment? Still a serious injury, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,981 Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, autotroph said: I am going to be a pedant here and point out that I said "if he has detached his pectoral" - wasn't his injury a tear of the muscle belly, rather than a full detachment? Still a serious injury, of course. I know, but following up with "heartbreaking" turned it more into a statement than a hypothesis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites