Akinomaki 40,744 Posted May 30, 2019 Starting with the Aki basho, the cost per kensho for the sponsors goes up by 8000Yen to 70 000. The money in the envelopes stays the same: 30 000Yen cash on the day. The amount saved by the NSK for the rikishi rises by 3300Yen to also 30 000Yen, and the NSK takes the rest: nearly double now: 4700 more to 10 000Yen. http://www.daily.co.jp/general/2019/05/30/0012379716.shtml 4 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) While listening to the NHK English commentary during the Summer tournament, I heard one person say that a small percent of the kensho sponsor money actually goes to the yobidashi. Is there any truth to this claim? Edited May 30, 2019 by Amamaniac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted May 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Amamaniac said: While listening to the NHK English commentary during the Summer tournament, I heard one person say that a small percent of the kensho sponsor money actually goes to the yobidashi. Is there any truth to this claim? The money the NSK keeps is partly for the yobidashi carrying and the gyoji announcing it - but that the yobidashi actually might get something more when they actually carry a kensho banner is new to me: it is part of their work description and should be covered by their pay. With double money for the NSK, the papers might dig into that part in detail. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted May 31, 2019 14 hours ago, Akinomaki said: The money in the envelopes stays the same: 30 000Yen cash on the day. The amount saved by the NSK for the rikishi rises by 3300Yen to also 30 000Yen, and the NSK takes the rest: nearly double now: 4700 more to 10 000Yen. Shibatayama explains: "If it increases, it also leads to more ambition by the rikishi." http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2019/05/31/kiji/20190530s00005000395000c.html with roughly 5% more for the rikishi, in the invisible part, but 50% more for the kyokai? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,099 Posted May 31, 2019 It's just a question of economics: supply and demand. If the rikishi aren't demanding more from each kensho but they think they can bring in more revenue by increasing the kensho cost, then they'll keep the bulk of the increase for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,637 Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) Callback: On 13/05/2014 at 07:00, Akinomaki said: With the VAT increase to 8% in Japan, the kensho costs for the sponsors have risen from 60 000 to 62 000 Yen per kensho. The part the NSK keeps for costs (yobidashi, announcing etc.) rises from 5000 to 5300 Yen, the part they keep for the taxes and social insurance (pension fund) of the rikishi rises from 25 000 to 26 700. The money the rikishi receives in the envelope remains at 30 000 Yen. Probably not so coincidentally, a second VAT increase from 8% to 10% that was originally scheduled for 2015 (and then twice postponed) is now supposed to be finally enacted in October this year. As for the Kyokai bumping up their administrative fee, to be fair it had been - outside of the aforementioned tax-related increase five years ago - unchanged since way back in 1991, all the while rikishi salaries increased significantly throughout the 1990s (and again this year after that long stagnation phase). Edit: Oh, self-pat-on-the-back time, from the salary increase thread: On 02/12/2018 at 18:42, Asashosakari said: Kensho will presumably be adjusted again if/when the planned sales tax increase to 10% finally goes through. Edited June 3, 2019 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Terutsuyoshi gets kensho from his hometown Minami-Awaji - support for him and PR for the city, which costs them about 1.1. million yen: about 60 000 yen for the banner and 15 times now 70 000 yen for one kensho each day. o Other new kensho banners for the basho o o o No complete last basho kensho list or standings this basho: the Nikkan banzuke is total crap this time, both for mochi-kyukin and kensho: e.g Shohozan is listed with 595.35 kensho this year. Edited September 5, 2019 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) The number of kensho applied for at the moment is 2113 - 175 less than last year Aki. Top in personal kensho is Takakeisho with 193, then Mitakeumi with 126 and Endo with 113 (Takayasu would have been high up - I guess with 175). Goeido has 98, Abi 71, Kakuryu 67, Tochinoshin 63 - and Hakuho ? Just 19!!! YouTuber Hajime_Syacho has announced that he'll place 1 each day on Asanoyama - same prefecture and generation. http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201909060000498.html This is the first time a YouTuber places kensho - the NSK asks him not to put the kensho parade on YT - for reason of broadcast rights - he acknowledged. http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASM9654KJM96UTQP01F.html I have put kensho parades on YT that I filmed myself - and the parades don't get broadcasted - the NSK has no right to prevent having someone film the parade for him and put it on YT. Edited September 6, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mt fuji 976 Posted September 6, 2019 19 kensho for Hakuho seems ridiculous, maybe some of Takayasu's will be transferred to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Akinomaki said: The number of kensho applied for at the moment is 2113 - 175 less than last year Aki. Sponichi now reports the number as 175 MORE than last year and 2288. http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2019/09/07/kiji/20190907s00005000054000c.html last year: On 23/09/2018 at 16:46, Akinomaki said: On 23/09/2018 at 10:52, Akinomaki said: On 07/09/2018 at 13:48, Akinomaki said: 2273 kensho have been applied for - the record for this (applied kensho) is 2219, from last year Natsu, which also is the basho with the most kensho ever so far: 2153. The NSK announced that the basho got the most kensho ever, but only 2160 get reported No reason given why in the end more than 100 less kensho where placed than were reported to have been applied for, just that there were more applications after the deadline for that - maybe they had been included in the 2273. Day 15 tied the record of 175 for most kensho on one day. Edited September 7, 2019 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) For not in the last bout, Hokutofuji was lucky to beat Hakuho at least on day 1 - later it will be even less to gain. One of the 13 was the Morinaga-sho voted by the sweets eating spectators. Enho has not enough sponsors yet for the rankings - he had 3 Day 1 ４２: Kakuryu ２０: Takakeisho １３: Hokutofuji １２: Asanoyama ８: Goeido ７: Ryuden ７: Okinoumi ６: Ichinojo ４: Terutsuyoshi ４: Tomokaze Edited September 8, 2019 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) On 06/09/2019 at 14:06, Akinomaki said: YouTuber Hajime_Shacho has announced that he'll place 1 each day on Asanoyama - same prefecture and generation. This is the first time a YouTuber places kensho - the NSK asks him not to put the kensho parade on YT - for reason of broadcast rights - he acknowledged. This is the kensho banner from Hajimeen Co. ltd. - usually the NSK does not accept kensho from individuals, so he has to use his company (at home - https://dogaentame.net/company/) o Edited November 4, 2019 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 9, 2019 Enho above Endo Day 2 ７６: Kakuryu ３９: Takakeisho ２１: Asanoyama １５: Goeido １３: Hokutofuji １１: Enho １０: Okinoumi ８: Endo ７: Mitakeumi ７: Shodai ７: Ryuden ７: Shimanoumi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,276 Posted September 10, 2019 Really have to wonder if all the usual suspects putting kensho on Hakuho's bouts were warned ahead of time and Hakuho just wanted to do the dohyoiri with his pals once. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 10, 2019 Day 3 １０６: Kakuryu ５８: Takakeisho ２５: Endo ２１: Asanoyama １６: Ryuden １５: Goeido １４: Enho １３: Mitakeumi １３: Hokutofuji １２: Okinoumi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 11, 2019 Day 4 １３４: Kakuryu ７２: Takakeisho ３７: Endo ２３: Goeido ２１: Mitakeumi ２１: Asanoyama １８: Abi １６: Ryuden １６: Kotoshogiku １４: Myogiryu １４: Enho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) No kensho on Enho today Day 5 １３４: Kakuryu ９１: Takakeisho ５４: Asanoyama ４５: Endo ３３: Mitakeumi ２８: Kotoshogiku ２８: Goeido １８: Abi １６: Ryuden １５: Myogiryu １５: Tochinoshin １５: Okinoumi Edited September 12, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 13, 2019 Day 6 １３４: Kakuryu ９１: Takakeisho ６７: Endo ６５: Asanoyama ４４: Mitakeumi ２９: Daieisho ２８: Goeido ２８: Kotoshogiku ２６: Abi ２０: Myogiryu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,809 Posted September 13, 2019 Isn't it kind of odd the way Enho hasn't garnered any steady kensho given his popularity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 14, 2019 Day 7 １３４: Kakuryu ９１: Takakeisho ７２: Asanoyama ６７: Endo ５０: Mitakeumi ４３: Tomokaze ４１: Abi ３９: Goeido ３６: Kotoshogiku ３６: Daieisho 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 15, 2019 Day 8 １３４: Kakuryu １１７: Takakeisho ７７: Endo ７５: Asanoyama ５８: Tomokaze ５０: Mitakeumi ４８: Tochinoshin ４１: Abi ３９: Goeido ３６: Kotoshogiku ３６: Daieisho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 15, 2019 Of the 37 kensho for Kakuryu-Tamawashi today, 26 were redistributed to the new last bout Tochinoshin-Shodai, 5 were canceled, 6 went to other bouts, especially Goeido-Tomokaze. The 2 on Myogiryu-Takarafuji were canceled. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20190915/sum19091515360009-n1.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 16, 2019 Day 9 １３４: Kakuryu １３４: Takakeisho ８３: Asanoyama ７７: Endo ７１: Goeido ６３: Tochinoshin ６１: Mitakeumi ５８: Tomokaze ４１: Abi ３６: Kotoshogiku ３６: Daieisho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 17, 2019 Day 10 １５３: Takakeisho １３４: Kakuryu ９２: Tochinoshin ８６: Asanoyama ７７: Endo ７４: Mitakeumi ７１: Goeido ５８: Tomokaze ５５: Abi ３７: Daieisho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,744 Posted September 18, 2019 Day 11 １８４: Takakeisho １３４: Kakuryu １００: Goeido ９２: Tochinoshin ８６: Endo ８６: Asanoyama ７４: Mitakeumi ５８: Tomokaze ５５: Abi ４３: Hokutofuji 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
