Hatsu 2020 Basho Discussion (SPOILERS)

[Jakusotsu 5,969]

4 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

2 million in juryo.

My fuzzy brain just read Euro...

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Just now, Tigerboy1966 said:

He tends to henka a lot and goes for sneaky pulls. And he's just got one of those faces you want to see punched. He's actually very talented and I usually root for him, but I do have a habit of siding with the bad guy.

It's not just that he henkas, but that he snarls at opponents who dare to henka him. He also likes to slap but gives the dirtiest looks to people who slap him back. He's a total hypocrite.

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Kiribayama's Makuuchi debut is the best since Ichinojo's 13-2 in Sept 2014. First man to reach 11+ wins in his debut since then.

24 wins (and possibly 25) between the two bottom-ranked rikishi. Is that some sort of record?

Edited January 26, 2020 by Eikokurai

[Asashosakari 19,331]

3 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

24 wins (and possibly 25) between the two bottom-ranked rikishi. Is that some sort of record?

Hmm, I have a feeling this question already came up six months ago...

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Just now, Asashosakari said:

Hmm, I have a feeling this question already came up six months ago...

Okay, well, if that was a record then it must be as Tokushoryu and Kiribayama already have one win more. :)

[Asashosakari 19,331]

I actually don't know/remember if that was determined to be the record back then; it was more of a heads-up to those inclined to check that the trivia legwork was probably already done back then and can be found in that basho thread.

[Asashosakari 19,331]

Kotoeko puzzles me; I could swear that his sumo looks entirely the same no matter if he's winning or losing big in a basho.

Edited January 26, 2020 by Asashosakari

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Just now, Asashosakari said:

I actually don't know/remember if that was determined to be the record back then; it was more of a heads-up to those inclined to check that the trivia legwork was probably already done back then and can be found in that basho thread.

My cursory investigation suggests it is. I narrowed the search to M16-22 with 11-15 wins and grouped by basho. There were few enough that I could check manually to see which had big wins by the two bottom-rankers (since the results also include M16s etc who weren't the lowest at the time).

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&having=2&form1_rank=M16-M22&form1_wins=11-15&form1_m=on&group_expand=on

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Ikioi kachikoshi! First winning record in Makuuchi since last Hatsu.

[Godango 984]

2 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Ikioi kachikoshi! First winning record in Makuuchi since last Hatsu.

After starting 0-4, and still only 2-6 by Day 8. Very impressive final week, happy for the old fella.

[Kintamayama 45,137]

8 hours ago, Wakaebala said:

 He really said clumsy about himself?

不細工 is what he said.

[Akinomaki 40,515]

One sansho down

[Benihana 1,929]

Disappointing end for Enho. Should've been a matta. But he got his KK, which is nice.

[Kintamayama 45,137]

Just now, Benihana said:

Disappointing end for Enho. Should've been a matta. But he got his KK, which is nice.

Clean tachiai, as could be seen on the replay. No tactic was the problem.

[Benihana 1,929]

4 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Clean tachiai, as could be seen on the replay. No tactic was the problem.

Clean tachiai is, when i can hear a *WHAP*. I don't care if both had their hands down. Two guys standing up and then sheepishly going in for a hug is no tachiai for me.

Technically you're of course correct, as always.

Edited January 26, 2020 by Benihana

[Tigerboy1966 1,448]

Two consecutive 10-5s for Kagayaki.  And he takes a 2-1 lead over his old buddy.

[Akinomaki 40,515]

11 minutes ago, Benihana said:

15 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Clean tachiai, as could be seen on the replay. No tactic was the problem.

Clean tachiai is, when i can hear a *WHAP*. I don't care if both had their hands down. Two guys standing up and then sheepishly going in for a hug is no tachiai for me.

Technically you're of course correct, as always.

It was neither matta nor a clean tachi-ai - it was a very bad and late tachi-ai by Enho and that immediately lost him the bout

Edited January 26, 2020 by Akinomaki

[Benihana 1,929]

2 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

It was neither matta nor a clean tachi-ai - it was a very bad and late tachi-ai by Enho and that immediately lost him the bout

OK, boomer. ^^

[Kintamayama 45,137]

1 hour ago, Fukuyamada said:

Toyonoshima seems fit enough to continue fighting, so he might just try work his way back up from the 3rd division again if he still has the will to compete.

"I don't know yet. I'll be thinking about it. Deep inside, I feel I've done enough. I've been doing sumo since I was six, thirty years and 18 years as a pro, so maybe it's time.. My family seems to want me to continue. Maybe if I try one last time.. I need some time to calm down. At the moment I'm feeling relieved. I'll have to think this through.. I planned on doing better sumo today and winning, as it might have been my last bout, but it didn't happen. I got pushed out easily. I really wanted to do my kind of sumo and not sumo I may regret.."

Edited January 26, 2020 by Kintamayama

[Kaninoyama 1,787]

Shodai comes through!.....Barely. 

Edited January 26, 2020 by Kaninoyama

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Shodai's done his bit! Now we wait and see ...

[Akinomaki 40,515]

16 minutes ago, Benihana said:

Disappointing end for Enho. Should've been a matta. But he got his KK, which is nice.

Correct was: It should have been matta, what Enho should have done at that moment

[Akinomaki 40,515]

This threatened to be the most boring finish for a basho - but Shodai remembered the new Shodai of earlier in the basho

[Rocks 1,809]

MK for Mitakeumi. With both Yokozuna out and Goeido and Takayasu  bad this is a terrible basho for him.

[Kaninoyama 1,787]

Strong finish to an excellent basho for Yutakayama.