Amamaniac 2,079 Posted September 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Benihana said: Anyone in for a Hoshoryusho? Superb debut match. "Shor", why not? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted September 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: Absolutely agree with you on that one. I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps sukuinage was called since it was a belt-less throw, whereas a kakenage may require a hand on the opponent's belt. Maybe Yubinhaad will weigh in on that decision... The commentator mentioned kakenage and you’d think the defining part of the move would be the kake part and not the position of the arm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuryuho 335 Posted September 13, 2020 Takakeisho fully embraced the dark side with his black mawashi today, he's gonna be a force to be reckoned with ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted September 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: The commentator mentioned kakenage and you’d think the defining part of the move would be the kake part and not the position of the arm. It won't be the first time that a kimarite decision was wrong. I just like to think that whoever was in the booth today had a reason for his decision. Like some monoii decisions, kimarite decisions can be subjective (?). When they happen, I stop and ask myself, do the officials know something that I don't? Frankly, it bothers me when bad decisions are made since they go down in the historical records, for which accuracy is expected. Kimarite decisions sometimes get revised, but this decision came in the final bout of the day, and there was no chance for a revision... Sigh. #disillusioned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hakutorizakura 643 Posted September 13, 2020 Oh wow we have a basho! It doesn't look like a day 1 at all -- excellent matches all around! The Nephew looking good. Kiribayama looked like he almost craned Tochi. Takayasu, what a stamina. Terutsuyoshi, excellent moves. Takakeisho, maybe the first time wearing arm+knee bands, great performance anyways. And, dare I say, Shodai? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,474 Posted September 13, 2020 It looks to me like Mitakeumi has been studying Kotogoshiku. He is developing a kind of yotsu-sumo which doesn't actually involve grabbing the belt. I believe the technical term is "hug-n-chug" but I would be grateful if anyone could offer a Japanese translation: Hoyonochagu? Loved Shodai today. "Do your own thing sonny and I'll beat you at it!". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Amamaniac said: 7 hours ago, Benihana said: Anyone in for a Hoshoryusho? Superb debut match. "Shor", why not? Just for the "ho"ll of it, I'll raise "ryu" one (Kill me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Amamaniac said: Perhaps sukuinage was called since it was a belt-less throw, whereas a kakenage may require a hand on the opponent's belt. I looked up some kakenage bouts and they seem to mostly be beltless. Edit: and then of course I found a bunch with a clear mawashi grip, so I am not sure anymore. Surely there is no mawashi involved between these two promising rikishi? Edited September 13, 2020 by Kashunowaka 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 976 Posted September 13, 2020 Definitely, some rikishi (Takakeisho, Takayasu, Shodai, Mitakeumi, ...) are looking really good. But I've learned that Day 1 results often don't reflect how a rikishi does for the basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher 16 Posted September 13, 2020 Endo is such a great technician. It's a shame that he doesn't show that regularly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,671 Posted September 13, 2020 Funny how people saying that the yokozuna being there isn't good for the basho, but this really shines a light for us to see who is going to turn the heat up. Hoshoryu on a good opening day against the mountain Tobizaru lives up to his name, flying off the dohyo all the way to the masu seats Geek continuing his unorthodox tachiai and dominating Kaisei A 1:50 battle between Takayasu and Takarafuji with the former ozeki prevailing Terutsuyoshi doing some cool maneuvering to get Yutakayama out of there The announcer didn't bring it up, but Kiribayama employed a sotogake to get Tochinoshin off balance to win that match by yorikiri. If he hadn't done that, Tochinoshin would have outlasted him, seeing how the youngster was obviously trying for a tsuridashi against the grandmaster himself Tamawashi pulling a fast one at the edge against Daieisho, but was that a hairpull? Mitakeumi just bulldozing forward, showing he's serious Shodai really motivated this basho after now having missed out on two opportunities to win this year, losing both those opportunities to M17 rankers Takakeisho seems to be back at least for today and showing why HE is the ozeki now Asanoyama having a mental block while dropping to Endo, hopefully he clears his head and gets back in the game 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,507 Posted September 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Kaninoyama said: Is there a restriction on vocal cheering this time as there was last basho, or has that been lifted? Yes, there is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotogouryuu 131 Posted September 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Christopher said: Endo is such a great technician. It's a shame that he doesn't show that regularly. I'd venture a guess that since his technique relies so heavily on his brilliant legwork, even a minor injury can take the base off him. When he's on form, he can beat anyone, but he has quite a lot of bad days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted September 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: Geek continuing his unorthodox tachiai and dominating Kaisei And for the first time in ages without his many braces. Not bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 500 Posted September 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Benihana said: Anyone in for a Hoshoryusho? Superb debut match. I have to agree, that was quite an intro performance. But, the M-17s are only winning every other basho, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 500 Posted September 13, 2020 Terustsuyoshi! Very impressive from the little salt thrower. Also, a very impressive win by Wakatakakage to beat one of my favorites, dog gone it. And, the Tamawashi-Daiesho contest and Asanoyama-Endo battles were awesome. What a fine first day of Aki! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shatsume 118 Posted September 13, 2020 Possibly the best day 1 I have seen since returning to watching sumo 4 years ago. Should be a good one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutzername 16 Posted September 13, 2020 "Yushodai!" Also: something Shodai could say to his opponents before the match. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, nutzername said: "Yushodai!" Also: something Shodai could say to his opponents before the match. Surely the other way around, in caveman grunt? ”Me Mitakeumi, you Shodai!” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: It looks to me like Mitakeumi has been studying Kotogoshiku. He is developing a kind of yotsu-sumo which doesn't actually involve grabbing the belt. I believe the technical term is "hug-n-chug" but I would be grateful if anyone could offer a Japanese translation: Hoyonochagu? Loved Shodai today. "Do your own thing sonny and I'll beat you at it!". Kotoshogiku’s move is called gaburi-yori. Edited September 13, 2020 by Eikokurai 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 976 Posted September 14, 2020 7 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Funny how people saying that the yokozuna being there isn't good for the basho, but this really shines a light for us to see who is going to turn the heat up. Agreed! Hoshoryu on a good opening day against the mountain And the mountain was looking good, too. Tobizaru lives up to his name, flying off the dohyo all the way to the masu seats Not as good as the master, Kotoyuki. A 1:50 battle between Takayasu and Takarafuji with the former ozeki prevailing 2nd best match after Asanoyama vs Endo. Mitakeumi just bulldozing forward, showing he's serious Wait until the 2nd half. If he does well past the 8th day, it will be his yusho. Shodai really motivated this basho after now having missed out on two opportunities to win this year, losing both those opportunities to M17 rankers He upped his sumo since a few basho ago. Takakeisho seems to be back at least for today and showing why HE is the ozeki now We will see. I thought his win was helped by Terunofuji who was clueless of what to do with Takakeisho. My thoughts in the bold fonts above ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,330 Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) Takakeisho simply pushes too hard and aggressively for Terunofuji to be so upright and slow in finding a grip. Down in juryo Tsurugisho has really plumped up, not far off joining the 200kg club now... Down in makushita my favourite prospect , 19-year-old Kitanowaka,, starts 1-0 at Ms14, be prepared to see him as a sekitori next year! Edited September 14, 2020 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,330 Posted September 14, 2020 I hope footage of 200cm Hokuseiho vs 164cm Baraki surfaces! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katsunorifuji 65 Posted September 14, 2020 8 hours ago, shumitto said: And for the first time in ages without his many braces. Not bad. I was wondering if anyone else noticed that or if it was just me. Definitely didn’t hurt him to not be all bandaged up in day 1. Hope the rest of the basho goes like today, lots of great sumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 1,014 Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, robnplunder said: Takakeisho seems to be back at least for today and showing why HE is the ozeki now We will see. I thought his win was helped by Terunofuji who was clueless of what to do with Takakeisho. This^. Takakeisho looked good, don't get me wrong, but I'm not getting carried away. Terunofuji faced him once before, well before he really came into his own with his oshi-zumo. It seems more likely to me that Terunofuji was caught off-guard rather than Takakeisho has returned (completely) to form. That said, I'll be very happy to see a Takakeisho usho/tsuna-run, so I hope I'm wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
