Terao 6 Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) Ok I am really bad in writing, but i'll try. I'll never forget my first sumo experience. Never. It was the Paris jungyo. Wakanohana beating Akebono! What a match. The little guy crushing the giant. I was in awe. What a great sport this is! I know now, it was just a theater, but then it was great spectacle for me. And I was hooked. And like that 25 years passed. Was it a normal sport for me - no. Was it two meatballs beating each other for my friends - yes. But I didn't care. I knew sumotori are like samurai. It was much more than two meatballs beating each other. It was two warriors fighting. Strength, technique and MIND. Like a samurai. But what I see now? My samurai wearing masks. They are afraid to challenge the narrative. My samurai punished for trying to live normally and they obey. They are not samurai for me anymore. Just two meatballs fighting each other. Edited May 13, 2021 by Terao 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,860 Posted May 13, 2021 Samurai, not kamikaze. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinobi Steve 146 Posted May 13, 2021 Sounds like an obscure American anime title...."Samurai Meatballs." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 743 Posted May 13, 2021 I think we need to give users wide berth with their use of English on this forum. We are a global community with a wide variety of capabilities with the English language. I am a native English speaker with an English minor degree from my university and am still learning new things about my own language weekly. I am also an American who believes all people around the globe deserve the right to decide what is best for their own health... So I'm torn when it comes to OP's post. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karasukurai 166 Posted May 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Terao said: But what I see now? My samurai wearing masks. ..... They are not samurai for me anymore. Samurai wore masks as part of their armour to protect themselves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,929 Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Karasukurai said: Samurai wore masks as part of their armour to protect themselves. And as we all know, the mask of the world's most beloved superhero was inspired by a samurai mask. Even the sound effects fit perfectly to todays situation. Spoiler 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted May 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Churaumi said: I think we need to give users wide berth with their use of English on this forum. We are a global community with a wide variety of capabilities with the English language. I am a native English speaker with an English minor degree from my university and am still learning new things about my own language weekly. I am also an American who believes all people around the globe deserve the right to decide what is best for their own health... So I'm torn when it comes to OP's post. In British English, giving sb a wide berth means avoiding them. Hehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Eikokurai said: In British English, giving sb a wide berth means avoiding them. Hehe. "Wide latitude" maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morning 83 Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Shinobi Steve said: Sounds like an obscure American anime title...."Samurai Meatballs." Samurai Pizza Cats. An anime that arrived in America without its script, so the dub studio made something up. Edited May 13, 2021 by Morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,274 Posted May 13, 2021 What's next, people getting upset others are wearing sunglasses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 743 Posted May 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Eikokurai said: In British English, giving sb a wide berth means avoiding them. Hehe. Two peoples, divided by a common language, I think is the quote. Pretty sure it's a phrase my dialect misuses, but meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,097 Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Churaumi said: Two peoples, divided by a common language, I think is the quote. Pretty sure it's a phrase my dialect misuses, but meh. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeparatedByACommonLanguage https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/74737/what-is-the-origin-of-the-phrase-two-nations-divided-by-a-common-language While I share your opinion regarding not jumping to assumptions regarding poor English, really not sure what point the OP was trying to make either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fwuzzle23 66 Posted May 13, 2021 18 hours ago, Terao said: Ok I am really bad in writing, but i'll try. I'll never forget my first sumo experience. Never. It was the Paris jungyo. Wakanohana beating Akebono! What a match. The little guy crushing the giant. I was in awe. What a great sport this is! I know now, it was just a theater, but then it was great spectacle for me. And I was hooked. And like that 25 years passed. Was it a normal sport for me - no. Was it two meatballs beating each other for my friends - yes. But I didn't care. I knew sumotori are like samurai. It was much more than two meatballs beating each other. It was two warriors fighting. Strength, technique and MIND. Like a samurai. But what I see now? My samurai wearing masks. They are afraid to challenge the narrative. My samurai punished for trying to live normally and they obey. They are not samurai for me anymore. Just two meatballs fighting each other. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted May 14, 2021 Is that P.D.Q. Bach? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nagora 88 Posted May 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Is that P.D.Q. Bach? No, it's Samuel Johnson looking at his dictionary and thinking "I recognise all these words, yet somehow the meaning remains obscure". I think the OP is expressing the opinion that training to do sumo should make you immune to diseases and that acting as if it didn't is a sign of weakness. The English term for this is "folly". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,809 Posted May 14, 2021 On 12/05/2021 at 19:56, Terao said: Ok I am really bad in writing, but i'll try. I'll never forget my first sumo experience. Never. It was the Paris jungyo. Wakanohana beating Akebono! What a match. The little guy crushing the giant. I was in awe. What a great sport this is! I know now, it was just a theater, but then it was great spectacle for me. And I was hooked. And like that 25 years passed. Was it a normal sport for me - no. Was it two meatballs beating each other for my friends - yes. But I didn't care. I knew sumotori are like samurai. It was much more than two meatballs beating each other. It was two warriors fighting. Strength, technique and MIND. Like a samurai. But what I see now? My samurai wearing masks. They are afraid to challenge the narrative. My samurai punished for trying to live normally and they obey. They are not samurai for me anymore. Just two meatballs fighting each other. It's already been pointed out that masks were a common part of samurai armor. And as far as challenging the narrative I think you are confusing samurai with ronin which no samurai aspired to be. They just ended up that way. A real samurai prided himself on following orders and maintaining the honor of his masters, to the point of falling on his sword if need be. Sumo rikishi are part of an organization and have masters. They represent Japan and it's honor in a real way. If wearing masks and forgoing some pleasures temporarily honors their masters and Japan, even if it were silly, then so be it. Rikishi, like loyal samurai, above all should be doing it and be proud to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclonicleo 19 Posted May 15, 2021 Not all of us grasp the English language as well as others, even when a native speaker. I'll take this as just..some playful imagination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 996 Posted May 15, 2021 I mean my reaction wasn't even slightly about the language, I respect the heck out of anyone who is even remotely multi-lingual. I just completely disagree with the narrative and find it odd. Rikishi life is brutal, they're arguably as tough as ever. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,403 Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) The OP must be Asanoyama's new biggest fan. Doesn't get much more narrative-challenging. Edited May 19, 2021 by Asashosakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neonbelly 226 Posted May 20, 2021 I thought the whole idea of being a samurai (servant) was doing whatever your master told you to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites