Tigerboy1966 1,421 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: I wonder when's the last time we had a yusho decided before each day before senshuraku (i.e. when a yusho was decided by d14, d13, etcetc) and whether this basho is going to be yet another case of those. Kakuryu in March 2018? Hakuho November 2019? Edited September 17, 2021 by Tigerboy1966 Correction 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said: Kakuryu in March 2018? Hakuho November 2019? Wow, that's really been a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 17, 2021 Sigh. Wakatakakage just doesn't learn, does he? I don't think it's the first time he's gotten kime-held by Terunofuji. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lackmaker 434 Posted September 17, 2021 Maybe the only real option he has is which way he's gonna lose because he can't expect to win too often against the current Terunofuji. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,222 Posted September 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Akinomaki said: After the loss to Takakeisho on day 4, Hoshoryu didn't properly face his opponent for the courtesy bow (rei) and left. Inosuke stopped him and made him bow properly. Sumo starts and ends with rei, like any Japanese martial art, and that phrase is always cited when esp. a foreigner misbehaves. Inosuke stopping Hoshoryu o 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
just_some_guy 265 Posted September 17, 2021 7 hours ago, hakutorizakura said: AKA pushing out your opponent with your butt, according to one of Kintamayama's old videos. "Tushipushi" 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,010 Posted September 17, 2021 After watching a couple of days, I have to ask: Is matta not a thing anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,793 Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, just_some_guy said: "Tushipushi" Yes, we can now confirm, it was oshitushi; the butt did not remain in contact while the opponent went out. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joaoiyama 307 Posted September 17, 2021 Crazy statistics, Hidenoumi and Chiyonoo fought 15 times, 8-7 in favor to Hidenoumi with all bouts ending in yorikiri. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_opp.aspx?r=11840&r2=12026 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorbjarn 214 Posted September 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Sigh. Wakatakakage just doesn't learn, does he? I don't think it's the first time he's gotten kime-held by Terunofuji. It's a solid way to prevent dame-oshi, though.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,484 Posted September 17, 2021 Okay, let's say Mitakeumi defies statistics and his own talent and goes 13-2, to jun-yusho Terunofuji. That puts him at 31 wins over three tournaments. Could he get the ozeki nod? The answer is no. And I'm mostly posting this because it'll quite probably make Mitakeumi lose tonight, rendering all discussion moot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,031 Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Benevolance said: Okay, let's say Mitakeumi defies statistics and his own talent and goes 13-2, to jun-yusho Terunofuji. That puts him at 31 wins over three tournaments. Could he get the ozeki nod? The answer is no. And I'm mostly posting this because it'll quite probably make Mitakeumi lose tonight, rendering all discussion moot. If Mitakeumi manages to win 13 matches this tournament, I predict he will be promoted to Ozeki - just not necessarily immediately after this basho. If he manages 13 and it isn't enough, he should be able to manage something that will be enough in the next couple years before he goes into decline. The threshold for promoting him will continually be lowered the longer he stays in sanyaku and puts up Yusho-quality results, even if they aren't close enough together for a traditional Ozeki run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted September 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Gurowake said: If Mitakeumi manages to win 13 matches this tournament, I predict he will be promoted to Ozeki - just not necessarily immediately after this basho. If he manages 13 and it isn't enough, he should be able to manage something that will be enough in the next couple years before he goes into decline. The threshold for promoting him will continually be lowered the longer he stays in sanyaku and puts up Yusho-quality results, even if they aren't close enough together for a traditional Ozeki run. I don't think he will be promoted with 13 wins. But, I think if he does get those 13 they will say all he needs in November is 10 or more and he will be made Ozeki. Yes, still only 31 wins over 3 basho but that would give him 6 KKs for the year and double digit wins in 3 of the last 4 basho. Something he hasn't done before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 18, 2021 So basically we're now discussing when he gets Goeidoed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,031 Posted September 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: So basically we're now discussing when he gets Goeidoed? Ultra-Goeido'd. More Goeido'd than Goeido. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Good lord. The yobidashi just on the Abema broadcast (Junsuke) has one of the most grating calls I've ever heard from a yobidashi. More yobidashi shenanigans: another yobidashi seems to have called the wrong rikishi for the bout before being interrupted by the shimpan. Edited September 18, 2021 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 187 Posted September 18, 2021 This Thursday I accidentially forgot to mute before I opened the stream. Chance had it they just announced a rikishi, and a young staff member of mine checked into my office as she heard somebody screaming . The expression on her face when I explained to her what was going on was priceless, she will never view me the same again. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted September 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gospodin said: This Thursday I accidentially forgot to mute before I opened the stream. Chance had it they just announced a rikishi, and a young staff member of mine checked into my office as she heard somebody screaming . The expression on her face when I explained to her what was going on was priceless, she will never view me the same again. Caught watching sumo at work, eh? Hehe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 187 Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) No problem here. Actually having people realize from time to time that their old fart of a boss has a human side is a good thing :-). Edited September 18, 2021 by Gospodin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 187 Posted September 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Benevolance said: Okay, let's say Mitakeumi defies statistics and his own talent and goes 13-2, to jun-yusho Terunofuji. That puts him at 31 wins over three tournaments. Could he get the ozeki nod? The answer is no. And I'm mostly posting this because it'll quite probably make Mitakeumi lose tonight, rendering all discussion moot. I think Mitakeumi is primed for a Kotomitsuki-like career, i.e. languishing in lower sanyaku and the joi for a very long time, before pulling his act together and finally making ozeki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 18, 2021 Terasawa (him of stolen bunny mawashi fame) putting together a very nice case for promotion. 3-1 by nakabi including a win over the juryo co-leader. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,885 Posted September 18, 2021 Junsuke? I haven't heard of that one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Naganoyama said: Junsuke? I haven't heard of that one... Eh, Shunsuke, my bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) A very nonchalant reaction by Akua to Shohozan's matta draws an amused chuckle from the crowd. And with the amount of tipping to and fro thanks to Akua's newfound penchant for kakenage, their match resembles shokkiri more than the juryo saigo no torikumi. Edited September 18, 2021 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 187 Posted September 18, 2021 A curious question: what is happening with the (lacking a better wording) "announcement sheets" after a basho ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites