Results GTB- Kyushu Basho 2021- 139 entries, 11 newbies

[Kintamayama 45,530]

  On 21/10/2021 at 15:05, Gurowake said:

 

I'm pretty sure you can enter a new one and it will overwrite the old one.  You still have some time to do that.

Indeed

[RaeucherLax 290]

  On 21/10/2021 at 15:05, Gurowake said:

I'm pretty sure you can enter a new one and it will overwrite the old one.  You still have some time to do that.

Thx  @Kintamayama and @Gurowake! Resubmitted my improved but still absolutley hopeless guess 

Edited October 22, 2021 by RaeucherLax

[Kintamayama 45,530]

Less than 24 hours left. Play already!

[Fujisan 533]

Stupid question but will those who where affected  by the corona virus scare and couldn't take part retain their rank or be demoted with a 0-15 record?

Or do we not know for sure?

This question  might have been answered elsewhere  on forum but I cant find it.

[Godango 1,015]

  On 25/10/2021 at 01:34, Fujisan said:

Stupid question but will those who where affected  by the corona virus scare and couldn't take part retain their rank or be demoted with a 0-15 record?

Or do we not know for sure?

This question  might have been answered elsewhere  on forum but I cant find it.

Nothing 'official', but precedent is that they retain their rank, there have been a few instances of very minor demotions (like the e/w switch) if banzuke luck dictated it.

[Fujisan 533]

  On 25/10/2021 at 01:48, Godango said:

Nothing 'official', but precedent is that they retain their rank, there have been a few instances of very minor demotions (like the e/w switch) if banzuke luck dictated it.

Thanks,now I can enter the game.

[Jakusotsu 6,050]

  On 19/10/2021 at 16:18, Kintamayama said:

Oldest active sekitori Shouhouzan will make a triumphant return to his hometown in Kyushu next basho after his imminent return to Makuuchi after 7 bashos. "I'm really happy to be back in Makuuchi for Kyushu [...]"

Interesting. Yet another indication that the new banzuke isn't entirely secret before going public. Bad news for Tsurugisho then...

(...and a strong indicator for no extra Sanyaku slots as well...)

[Kintamayama 45,530]

  On 25/10/2021 at 12:31, Jakusotsu said:

Interesting. Yet another indication that the new banzuke isn't entirely secret before going public. Bad news for Tsurugisho then...

(...and a strong indicator for no extra Sanyaku slots as well...)

Well, the paper may have been speculating..

[Jakusotsu 6,050]

  On 25/10/2021 at 12:41, Kintamayama said:

Well, the paper may have been speculating..

So it wasn't Shohozan speaking after all?

[Kintamayama 45,530]

  On 25/10/2021 at 12:44, Jakusotsu said:

So it wasn't Shohozan speaking after all?

Spoiler..

[Gurowake 4,109]

  On 25/10/2021 at 01:48, Godango said:

Nothing 'official', but precedent is that they retain their rank, there have been a few instances of very minor demotions (like the e/w switch) if banzuke luck dictated it.

This isn't particularly accurate.  The only time they haven't retained their exact rank (at least from what I recall) was when everyone in Juryo that was affected was demoted one full rank.  http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=202101&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&snr=on

[Joaoiyama 313]

Usually i don't play GTB but when i do it's a last minute entry thinking "screw it" because i forgot about Asanoyama after finishing the banzuke with 41 rikishi, so i placed him in the middle and bumped everyone down one slot. 

[Kintamayama 45,530]

Registration closed. 141 entries. Excellent.

[Gurowake 4,109]

Terunofuji(13-2 Yw)	Y	Hakuho(0-0 Ye)
Shodai(8-7 Oe)	O	Takakeisho(8-7 Ow)
Mitakeumi(9-6 Se)	S	Meisei(8-7 Sw)
Ichinojo(8-7 Kw)	K	Daieisho(10-5 M4w)
Kiribayama(9-6 M2w)	M1	Wakatakakage(9-6 M3e)
Onosho(10-5 M6w)	M2	Takanosho(7-8 M1w)
Okinoumi(10-5 M8e)	M3	Myogiryu(11-4 M10w)
Endo(11-4 M11e)	M4	Takarafuji(8-7 M5w)
Takayasu(4-8 Ke)	M5	Hoshoryu(5-8 M1e)
Shimanoumi(8-7 M7e)	M6	Tamawashi(6-9 M4e)
Ura(7-8 M6e)	M7	Chiyoshoma(5-10 M5e)
Kotoeko(8-7 M11w)	M8	Tobizaru(7-8 M8w)
Aoiyama(7-8 M9e)	M9	Hidenoumi(7-8 M9w)
Chiyotairyu(7-8 M10e)	M10	Asanoyama(0-0 Se)
Kotonowaka(3-7 M3w)	M11	Hokutofuji(2-3 M2e)
Ishiura(0-0 M12e)	M12	Terutsuyoshi(5-10 M7w)
Yutakayama(8-7 M14w)	M13	Tochinoshin(7-8 M12w)
Chiyonokuni(9-6 M17e)	M14	Kagayaki(7-8 M13e)
Chiyomaru(8-7 M16e)	M15	Abi(13-2 J5e)
Kaisei(6-9 M14e)	M16	Akua(9-6 J1w)
Sadanoumi(10-5 J3w)	M17	Shohozan(10-5 J4e)

[Reonito 1,522]

I ended up giving Kiribayama K1w. I punted Asanoyama ways further down than I would under normal circumstances. Otherwise very similar.

[Wamahada 58]

I dropped Hakuho from Banzuke and made an M18e slot, maybe not the best idea.

[Seiyashi 4,108]

  On 27/10/2021 at 02:54, Reonito said:

I ended up giving Kiribayama K1w. I punted Asanoyama ways further down than I would under normal circumstances. Otherwise very similar.

Likewise. Kiribayama-Daieisho is the only difference between mine and Gurowake's up to M7w (I have Kotoeko and Chiyoshoma swapped), then I have Hokutofuji at M8w and Asanoyama at M11w before the "reset"/"breaker" of Ishiura at M12e. While everyone is in roughly the same area and order otherwise (with two sets of EW swaps), I have Kaisei ranked at M17w instead of M16e. 52 points in common, if I counted correctly, but a lot of M(X)w-M(X+1)e swaps.

Terunofuji	Y	Hakuho
Shodai	O	Takakeisho
Mitakeumi	S	Meisei
Ichinojo	K	Kiribayama
Daieisho	1	Wakatakakage
Onosho	2	Takanosho
Okinoumi	3	Myogiryu
Endo	4	Takarafuji
Takayasu	5	Hoshoryu
Shimanoumi	6	Tamawashi
Ura	7	Kotoeko
Chiyoshoma	8	Hokutofuji
Tobizaru	9	Aoiyama
Hidenoumi	10	Chiyotairyu
Kotonowaka	11	Asanoyama
Ishiura	12	Terutsuyoshi
Tochinoshin	13	Kagayaki
Yutakayama	14	Chiyonokuni
Abi	15	Chiyomaru
Akua	16	Sadanoumi
Shohozan	17	Kaisei

Edited October 27, 2021 by Seiyashi

[Ganzohnesushi 526]

No risk, no fun. Given the absence of Hakuho there will be only 7 Sanyaku Rikishi (1 Y, 2 O, 2 S and 2 K), i.e. a maximum of 21 intra-Sanyaku-Bouts. If only one Sanyaku Rikishi goes kyujo in the first few days (or another Covid-caused Heya absence) there might be the risk of days withhout any intra-Sanyaku-Bout. Thus I would not be surprised by the Kyokai to create a 3rd Komusubi slot and I decided to go along with this approach. Expecting a result around 13-2/12-3, otherwise it will be 3-12 or worse

Ganzohnesushi

[Jakusotsu 6,050]

  On 27/10/2021 at 13:20, Ganzohnesushi said:

Thus I would not be surprised by the Kyokai to create a 3rd Komusubi slot and I decided to go along with this approach.

Shohozan disagrees (see above).

[Gurowake 4,109]

  On 27/10/2021 at 04:50, Wamahada said:

I dropped Hakuho from Banzuke and made an M18e slot, maybe not the best idea.

It doesn't really cost you that much compared to what Ganzo did.  You miss the 2 points for Hakuho and that's it.  The rest of the banzuke shouldn't be affected.  

[Ganzohnesushi 526]

  On 27/10/2021 at 14:17, Jakusotsu said:

Shohozan disagrees (see above).

Huh? What has Shohozan to do with this? Of course I have him in and Tsurugisho out, but what the hell has this to do with an additional Sanyaku slot?

Ganzohnesushi

[Jakusotsu 6,050]

  On 27/10/2021 at 17:43, Ganzohnesushi said:

Huh? What has Shohozan to do with this? Of course I have him in and Tsurugisho out, but what the hell has this to do with an additional Sanyaku slot?

Right  - brainfart on my side. It's not easy living on the wrong side of 50...

[Reonito 1,522]

  On 27/10/2021 at 13:20, Ganzohnesushi said:

Given the absence of Hakuho there will be only 7 Sanyaku Rikishi (1 Y, 2 O, 2 S and 2 K), i.e. a maximum of 21 intra-Sanyaku-Bouts.

We had this situation in March 2020, when Takakeisho was the sole Ozeki. Amazingly, none of the san'yaku dropped out; it was the last tournament Kakuryu completed.

[Ganzohnesushi 526]

  On 28/10/2021 at 08:42, Jakusotsu said:

Right  - brainfart on my side. It's not easy living on the wrong side of 50...

Be prepared, my friend. Minor ailments to come and stay....

Ganzohnesushi

Edited October 28, 2021 by Ganzohnesushi
typo

[Fujisan 533]

Heres my entry,for you to ridicule...

Terunofuji     Hakuho

Shodai    Takakeisho

Mitakeumi   Meisei

Ichinojo  Daiesho

Kiribayama  Wakatakage

Onosho  Takanosho

Okinoumi  Myogiryu

Endo  Shimanoumi

Takarafuji  Hoshoryu

Takayasu  Tamawashi

Ura  Chiyoshoma

Kotoeko  Hokitofuji

Tobizaru  Kotonowaka

Hidenoumi  Aoiyama

Chyotairyu  Asanoyama

Ishiura  Yutakayama

Tochnoshin  Abi

Kagayaki  Chiyonokuni

Chiyomaru  Akua

Sadanoumi  Kaisei 

Shohozan

I am missing someone but he must have been in my entry.

I dont know who though